I was/am at work this morning thinking about this. Lately I have had to be away from my desk somewhat on this contract, which takes me away from the supplies I have in my bag. Basically, as it stands if I had to leave w/o my bag, I would have my Kershaw Chive, Vic Farmer, SW 637, two speed strips, OC can, keys w/ vic Gigabit tool and my wallet. Not the ideal. The solution as it stands right now I think, is to get myself some sort of ankle wallet or pouch to stick some items in that might assist me if I had to evacuate the building and then consequently walk home. More to follow as I develop this but I would love to hear your ideas.
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Could you walk out the door with what is in your pockets?
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True, but wisdom tells me that my preparation in relation to other people doesn't necessarily get me home at the end of the day :thumbup:
So I am trying to figure out how to carry some other small items while maintaining acceptable work atire. I'm figuring on breaking down a Doug Ritter Pocket kit and puting some of the items in some sort of concealable pouch. That should cover it.
Here is the thing. Unless your pouch contains a cellphone/smartphone of some kind, around here it will bring notice. It's an office full of people who are very observant. I really don't want to field questions. I thought about a slightly larger pouch that would look like a PDA pouch that could also hold items. If I could carry more stuff on my belt I would, it just would not fly. Perhaps if I wore a sport coat more often it would work.
I have my small backpack with me almost everywhere.
It has the essentials in it. Fire making things, compass, two or more knives between 2" to 4", a huge garbage bag for shelter, whistles and stuff. Since almost all water in lakes and streams in Sweden are drinkable right away you dont need filters and such. I brought a couple of coffee filters to get rid of the worst.
When I am PLANNING on going further than work I add a Fallkniven F1, more lights and a folding saw. The worst thing that can happen here would be a moose coming out in front of your car, then you are toast anyway.
One way to make people accept your idea of preparedness is to add one thing at a time. One day you show up with a multitool in your belt, preferably after someone in the office could have been helped by one, then after a month you a add a light, maybe after a blown fuse etc. In reality you have been prepared all the time but to the locals it appears that you are a bit "too late". So when the screw come loose and the light goes out next time you are prepared and saves the day and everyone will thank you for it. A small Fenix light and a multi tool will probably be accepted everywhere without question. It all depends on the "environment" at the office. After a while they will accept every weird item you carry because they feel secure, not because you carry a MP5 but because they know that if the lights go out you will light the way for them and fix the loose screw on the chair etc.
Then after a month or two or three you become the go-to guy and the questions change from "do you have a gizmo X" to "can I borrow your gizmo X".
The really easiest way is to have everything you might need in your desk drawer or just lying on your desk (not the 4" fixed blade though
) and make the tools surface one by one when the need arise. In the fuse goes you pick up your light and when everyone knows that you have it, you can wear it and so on.
I am the gadget and gizmo guy at work and they even stopped asking politely anymore, they just reach out their hand and say "gizmo X" like a surgeon
One thing is to give people you care about gizmoes for christmas and such. The office girl who is afraid to go down to the basement can get a Fenix L1T or a Surefire G2 and such. A small light or multitool will even fit in the smallest handbag
If you need to bring along a fixed blade dont bring any rambo-delta-swat-death-kill-specops- stealh knives, bring a nice handmade looking 3-4" in a "cuteish" sheath. A nice knife in a nice sheath is usually considered a piece of artwork not a murder-death-kill-thing. If you put your fancy knife on some presentation stand you can still use it but it wanishes in the usual "desk ornament clutter"
It has the essentials in it. Fire making things, compass, two or more knives between 2" to 4", a huge garbage bag for shelter, whistles and stuff. Since almost all water in lakes and streams in Sweden are drinkable right away you dont need filters and such. I brought a couple of coffee filters to get rid of the worst.
When I am PLANNING on going further than work I add a Fallkniven F1, more lights and a folding saw. The worst thing that can happen here would be a moose coming out in front of your car, then you are toast anyway.
One way to make people accept your idea of preparedness is to add one thing at a time. One day you show up with a multitool in your belt, preferably after someone in the office could have been helped by one, then after a month you a add a light, maybe after a blown fuse etc. In reality you have been prepared all the time but to the locals it appears that you are a bit "too late". So when the screw come loose and the light goes out next time you are prepared and saves the day and everyone will thank you for it. A small Fenix light and a multi tool will probably be accepted everywhere without question. It all depends on the "environment" at the office. After a while they will accept every weird item you carry because they feel secure, not because you carry a MP5 but because they know that if the lights go out you will light the way for them and fix the loose screw on the chair etc.
Then after a month or two or three you become the go-to guy and the questions change from "do you have a gizmo X" to "can I borrow your gizmo X".
The really easiest way is to have everything you might need in your desk drawer or just lying on your desk (not the 4" fixed blade though
) and make the tools surface one by one when the need arise. In the fuse goes you pick up your light and when everyone knows that you have it, you can wear it and so on.I am the gadget and gizmo guy at work and they even stopped asking politely anymore, they just reach out their hand and say "gizmo X" like a surgeon
One thing is to give people you care about gizmoes for christmas and such. The office girl who is afraid to go down to the basement can get a Fenix L1T or a Surefire G2 and such. A small light or multitool will even fit in the smallest handbag
If you need to bring along a fixed blade dont bring any rambo-delta-swat-death-kill-specops- stealh knives, bring a nice handmade looking 3-4" in a "cuteish" sheath. A nice knife in a nice sheath is usually considered a piece of artwork not a murder-death-kill-thing. If you put your fancy knife on some presentation stand you can still use it but it wanishes in the usual "desk ornament clutter"
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The question is can you walk out of your house with what is in your pockets, Which provokes another question, how skillful are you with making everything from nature?
So fire making without manmade materials, shelter from what is around you, orientation skills, food and water procurement. First aid?
So fire making without manmade materials, shelter from what is around you, orientation skills, food and water procurement. First aid?
Right exactly precise now straight from sitting down on my chair subparticle transported to Nowhere? No.
Enough time to get my jacket and my backpack (20 seconds)? I would have the tools for it but maybe lack in knowledge. I would survive but maybe not really really comfortable.
Ending up smack in the middle of a RTA with multiple casualties, No way.
Enough time to get my jacket and my backpack (20 seconds)? I would have the tools for it but maybe lack in knowledge. I would survive but maybe not really really comfortable.
Ending up smack in the middle of a RTA with multiple casualties, No way.
well, i have on person the following:
right back pocket: Puma nylon wallet
- ID & cards
- 180 EUR in small bills
- MagLite Solitaire + 2 extra light bulbs
- 5m of dental floss
- hex 6 wrench
- aluminum wrapping
- matches
- 1 aerius
- 2 aspirins
- mini post-it
- Victorinox Swiss Card
- sewing kit + 2 fishing hooks, fishing line
- tea satchet
- shoe aide
- small compass
on belt:
- Victorinox Swiss Tool Spirit (in leather sheath)
- 1 Super Mega Mass Weider protein bar in cell phone holster
- keys & Light-My-Fire firesteel
right front pocket: Spyderco Military
left front pocket: Nokia 6234
left back pocket: cash
i think i'll do fine within city limits...
plus i always have my Maxpedition Pygmy Falcon II (23 liters)> backpack handy
Main compartment:
- Hooded longsleeve & t-shirt
- Fujitsu Siemens S-Series Notebook
- Tissues (2 packs)
- Spare batteries (2 AA & 2 AAA)
Front pouch:
- Vodafone data card
- Jabra bluetooth headset
- Smith & Wesson diamond sharpener
- Pencil
- Maycom M-bird mp3 player
Slip pocket:
- mouse
- usb cable
- Nokia & Jabra chargers
Side pouches:
- Regular bottle 0.5 liters
- Camelback bottle 0.5 liters
right back pocket: Puma nylon wallet
- ID & cards
- 180 EUR in small bills
- MagLite Solitaire + 2 extra light bulbs
- 5m of dental floss
- hex 6 wrench
- aluminum wrapping
- matches
- 1 aerius
- 2 aspirins
- mini post-it
- Victorinox Swiss Card
- sewing kit + 2 fishing hooks, fishing line
- tea satchet
- shoe aide
- small compass
on belt:
- Victorinox Swiss Tool Spirit (in leather sheath)
- 1 Super Mega Mass Weider protein bar in cell phone holster
- keys & Light-My-Fire firesteel
right front pocket: Spyderco Military
left front pocket: Nokia 6234
left back pocket: cash
i think i'll do fine within city limits...
plus i always have my Maxpedition Pygmy Falcon II (23 liters)> backpack handy
Main compartment:
- Hooded longsleeve & t-shirt
- Fujitsu Siemens S-Series Notebook
- Tissues (2 packs)
- Spare batteries (2 AA & 2 AAA)
Front pouch:
- Vodafone data card
- Jabra bluetooth headset
- Smith & Wesson diamond sharpener
- Pencil
- Maycom M-bird mp3 player
Slip pocket:
- mouse
- usb cable
- Nokia & Jabra chargers
Side pouches:
- Regular bottle 0.5 liters
- Camelback bottle 0.5 liters
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on my person every day.....at work
glock 9mm
flashlights surefire e1e streamlight poly stinger
2 sets handcuffs
sabre red stream oc
monodnock expandable baton
full size 154cm pe gripp
sak farmer
pe para military
hk ally
farmer personal
beretta 21 a
ABA IIIA bdy armor
AMK personal survival kit with a few added items
Swiss Lighter from county comm
JD TiCard
every day of work
Springfield XD9 subcom
beretta 21 a
military
endura 4
delica 4
sak farmer
JD TiCard
amk Kit with a few add item.
Surefire e1e
zippo
Xicar butane Lighter
knives change as i feel.....thats just right now.....next week i will probably move to carrying my al mars
glock 9mm
flashlights surefire e1e streamlight poly stinger
2 sets handcuffs
sabre red stream oc
monodnock expandable baton
full size 154cm pe gripp
sak farmer
pe para military
hk ally
farmer personal
beretta 21 a
ABA IIIA bdy armor
AMK personal survival kit with a few added items
Swiss Lighter from county comm
JD TiCard
every day of work
Springfield XD9 subcom
beretta 21 a
military
endura 4
delica 4
sak farmer
JD TiCard
amk Kit with a few add item.
Surefire e1e
zippo
Xicar butane Lighter
knives change as i feel.....thats just right now.....next week i will probably move to carrying my al mars
I want to be clear because one or two posts deal with it. I have alot of stuff in my carry bag, but assume that I cannot use that. Here is the scenario. I leave my office to go downstairs to complete a task. An evacuation order comes, and there is no way to get back upstairs to my gear. There you have it. You now have to hit the streets with what is in your pockets. A leatherman on my belt at work will catch me some odd looks, and image is at least somewhat important here. Wearing a pullover or jacket of some kind will provide perhaps some concealment of things on my belt, or extra pockets.
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i couldn't right now...
i'm still in my PJ'S....
i'm still in my PJ'S....
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I would have to grab my bag. On my person, I have an ARC AAA, Calypso Jr, and that's about it. I work in a hospital, so I don't carry a gun. My pockets are usually filled with notes, a PDA, and reference books, so I don't have a lot of room for improvement. I have been adding things to my EDC bag, however. Pretty soon it will have everything I need in it.
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from my previous post...i think i am covered fro a minute or two....besides if i get an evac order from my office...i go to my mobile office instead...
at the very least i have one firearm and two knives and the AMK PSK on my person outside my house...in the house its a lighter and a few knives with the gun real close...... the AMK PSK is my third...i used the other two to see what worked and what didnt and made changes accordingly.
38 resides in a pocket holster, OC in the other pocket. So no, they do not.
Cool!
In my book a couple hundred bucks in cash, a few bucks in change, a cell phone, a Vic Farmer, and a loaded SW 637 are gonna get anybody out of a WHOLE lot of trouble.
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I'm not familiar with the .38 S&W that you carry, but am surprised that it doesn't leave some sort of telltale bulge in your pocket. Must be very small.
Should have added in my first post that yes, I can get bye with what I have in my pockets, which is a lighter and a knife. If you are in an urban environment, everything else is available to you from many sources.
Should have added in my first post that yes, I can get bye with what I have in my pockets, which is a lighter and a knife. If you are in an urban environment, everything else is available to you from many sources.