Could you walk out the door with what is in your pockets?

Take a look at www.mastersofconcealment.com. It is one of Lenny Magill's very cool websites and offers many potential solutions for you. I'm not sure how important it is to you to have a fixed blade knife with you, but you are probably limited to a neck knife. One of those little pry bars (micro widgy) from Countycomm might be good.

Put a Photon II LED , BSA Hotspark and peanut lighter on your keychain.

You could also consider secreting a cache outside of your office. (Mylar or Tyvek envelope duct taped to the bottom of a mailbox?)

-- FLIX
 
In an urban environment, I'd be pretty good with what's currently in my pockets. Basically, a folder, a flashlight, and cash.

In a woods environment, nope I'd be up a $h!t creek. I either have to carry my PSK on me 24/7, or learn how to get by without it.
 
Yes. I have a mini survival kit always ion my person.
Knife
Fire Starter
Iodine
Some fire straws
A couple of plastic bags
several yards of paracord
 
Many times the horizontal sheaths for the Leatherman get much less attention, as they are the same size and shape as a phone holster. You could use one of the elastic sides for a small light. A few things can go on a paracord necklace and be unnoticed.
 
Maybe it's a little late in this thread to ask this question but better late than never. What are we preparing to survive? The other day I was watching this tv show about a building collapse in South Korea, one of the department store clerks was trapped in the rubble for 14 days before she was accidently discovered alive. You know that chick said she was never afraid. Look at this from the stand point of realism. You can not prepare for every eventuality. If your out hiking or hunting in unknow woods, it would be prudent to carry some essentials for shelter, fire, water ect. In the city short of armegedon it sounds as though the guy in the opening thread has got more than he needs. Im really thinking all that weaponry is some day going to work against the guy to be frank. Guns, fighting knives and OC require a high level of judgement under stress to be assetts rather than liabilities. It's easy to take for granted that you have that kind of good judgement but it actually quite rare.
 
shipwreck said:
Maybe it's a little late in this thread to ask this question but better late than never. What are we preparing to survive? The other day I was watching this tv show about a building collapse in South Korea, one of the department store clerks was trapped in the rubble for 14 days before she was accidently discovered alive. You know that chick said she was never afraid. Look at this from the stand point of realism. You can not prepare for every eventuality. If your out hiking or hunting in unknow woods, it would be prudent to carry some essentials for shelter, fire, water ect. In the city short of armegedon it sounds as though the guy in the opening thread has got more than he needs. Im really thinking all that weaponry is some day going to work against the guy to be frank. Guns, fighting knives and OC require a high level of judgement under stress to be assetts rather than liabilities. It's easy to take for granted that you have that kind of good judgement but it actually quite rare.
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First off, I don't think of my knives as weapons. I don't train with them as such. The OC and Gun, well I train extensively with those. My Judgement?? Let me worry about that. I fully expect that 99% of all situations I will face will never require those, but that is another question. I am worried about the kind of events that would require me to evacuate from my building, in an urban environment with no way to get home. It is a mental exercise - am I prepared, am I ready, can I do more? Preparedness breeds success my friend. I don't wear a seatbelt because I expect an accident, but accidents happen. More than I need???? I don't think so. I have what I can compromise to carry. I wonder if I am doing enough, because I learn by asking myself honest questions and trying to get push myself to give myself an honest answer. I expect to give myself a fighting chance at surviving potential events.
I thought it was a useful question to ask, but its not just about what is in my pockets, its whether or not I have had the forethought and will to prepare my mind.
 
Smash, there is no point asking if you are prepared if you cant articulate what you are preparing for. Evacutation?, walk out the building. You havent said what you anticipate finding after that.
 
Evacuation to a situation where mass transit is shut down. Earthquake, weather event, large scale power outage, terrorism, civil unrest.
 
shipwreck said:
Maybe it's a little late in this thread to ask this question but better late than never. What are we preparing to survive? The other day I was watching this tv show about a building collapse in South Korea, one of the department store clerks was trapped in the rubble for 14 days before she was accidently discovered alive. You know that chick said she was never afraid. Look at this from the stand point of realism. You can not prepare for every eventuality. If your out hiking or hunting in unknow woods, it would be prudent to carry some essentials for shelter, fire, water ect. In the city short of armegedon it sounds as though the guy in the opening thread has got more than he needs. Im really thinking all that weaponry is some day going to work against the guy to be frank. Guns, fighting knives and OC require a high level of judgement under stress to be assetts rather than liabilities. It's easy to take for granted that you have that kind of good judgement but it actually quite rare.
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You can't prepare for everything but you can prepare for something. I drive 20 miles to work through partly forested, rural areas so I may possible have an accident or something and be required to keep warm for a few hours until rescued, specially in winter. Thus my main focus is being able to get a fire started. When I go trecking in the woods my loadout is different.
 
superc0ntra said:
You can't prepare for everything but you can prepare for something. I drive 20 miles to work through partly forested, rural areas so I may possible have an accident or something and be required to keep warm for a few hours until rescued, specially in winter. Thus my main focus is being able to get a fire started. When I go trecking in the woods my loadout is different.
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Right! well said, you can prepare for your car breaking down and having to spend the night our at least a few hours in a cold car. But you cant prepare for
"Earthquake, weather event, large scale power outage, terrorism, civil unrest."

That is list is too wide.
 
What makes the list too wide? No really, its a generalized list of potential problems you could face. As a matter of fact several major metorpolitan areas have faced just such problems in the last few years. Their unlikelyhood does not make them worthy of thought? If I work in a city, it is something I have to think about - I don't dedicate my life to it, but a little thought and mental preparation goes a long way. I thought I would share the issues with folks here. No one thought a Hurricane Katrina type event could happen in the United States in the modern era, but it did.
 
mtnfolk mike said:
i couldn't right now...:o i'm still in my PJ'S....
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+1
In my man bag I carry 2 loaded magazines for my Glock 30, a Spyderco Native III, a Bic lighter, a Pelican M1 and spare battery, extra pair of glasses, eyeglasses cleaning kit and screwdriver, Leatherman Supertool.
 
Smash05 said:
What makes the list too wide? No really, its a generalized list of potential problems you could face. As a matter of fact several major metorpolitan areas have faced just such problems in the last few years. Their unlikelyhood does not make them worthy of thought? If I work in a city, it is something I have to think about - I don't dedicate my life to it, but a little thought and mental preparation goes a long way. I thought I would share the issues with folks here. No one thought a Hurricane Katrina type event could happen in the United States in the modern era, but it did.
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Ok now you are going off in a different direction and talking about likelihood. Im not saying one or any of those situations couldnt happen. superc0ntra made a great point about knowing what you are preparing for. You cant prepare for ""Earthquake, weather event, large scale power outage, terrorism, civil unrest." you need to narrow your objective down to specifics.
 
I have no idea why people are giving the OP such a hard time here. He's just considering his circumstances and trying to make sure he's prepared, like all of us do.

Smash05 said:
if I had to leave w/o my bag, I would have my Kershaw Chive, Vic Farmer, SW 637, two speed strips, OC can, keys w/ vic Gigabit tool and my wallet.
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The main thing I see missing is a flashlight. A Fenix P2D is small enough to disappear in a pocket. I would definitely add a light of some kind.

You didn't mention how far the walk home would be, or in what kind of terrain, though this could influence what you'd want to have with you.

You also didn't mention whether you have a car parked downstairs with more gear. I guess if you are concerned about walking home then there is no car...

Working in an office where weapons can't be noticed, and "gear" seems unnecessary (to the sheeple), I've worn this belt pouch: http://www.rei.com/product/757666 (in black, with the shoulder strap removed). In it I carry my cell phone, business cards, 2XCR123 flashlight, folding knife, multi-tool, OC, pad of paper, pen, case w/10 cigarettes & lighter, 3 spare CR123s, and could add quite a bit more if I needed to (am thinking about a spare set of keys). It's not the absolute sexiest bag I've ever seen, but it doesn't look bad, doesn't look "tactical" (like some of the Maxpedition pouches do), and conceals everything well while keeping it accessible. If anyone asks what's in it, I just start listing off the non-weapon items, in a way deliberately intended to bore them, and no one's pressed it. I suppose if they did I could just go on about how cool this flashlight is, etc. I keep the things I'm most likely to need in front of people in different pockets (of the pouch) than the things I don't want them to see, so no one glimpses my knife when I'm grabbing my phone. It's the only thing I wear on my belt, and with all the electronic gadgets people regularly carry nowadays, a small pouch on the belt that is not obviously a knife sheath really doesn't get much attention.

I could walk out the door with what's in my pockets and what's on my belt.

Go to an REI type store, or even camera store, and look at belt pouches, find something you can get away with, and then see what you can fit in it.
 
My "EDC" is a pocket knife of some sorts (FK U2/SAK Farmer) and a mini bic, plus my wallet, keys and cellphone. :)
 
I got my keys in one pocket , they have on the keyring , a LED torch , a permanant match , and a mercator knife
on my belt is another couple knives a tiny folder and an okapi , in my other pocket is a tin with bandaids , fire steel , cottonwool and pain pills
could I walk away with just whats on me ? probably ... depends what Im walking away to .. my car ? or just keep walking for the next how far ?
 
Smash05 said:
Evacuation to a situation where mass transit is shut down. Earthquake, weather event, large scale power outage, terrorism, civil unrest.
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Well, after 9/11, I didn't hear that anyone who made it out of the buildings that were hit or evacuated needed to "survive" to make it...that was a catastrophic event, but "urban survival" didn't seem to be an issue once they were on the street.

Katrina-type situations would be different, but a person with your mindset would have already bugged out in a prepared fashion.

Civil unrest may be an issue, but how catastrophic would that have to be for you to not see that coming? It's not like everything's peaceful, and then you leave your desk and go out for a coffee, and society collapses around you with no warning! Or do you anticipate something like that...?

Not trying to say your question's not valid, just wondering how much of an event it would have to be for you to have to "survive" in an urban environment.
 
shipwreck said:
Right! well said, you can prepare for your car breaking down and having to spend the night our at least a few hours in a cold car. But you cant prepare for
"Earthquake, weather event, large scale power outage, terrorism, civil unrest."

That is list is too wide.
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I think you are making it all too complicated. The idea behind preparedness, is to have the basic tools available, no matter what the situation and because preparing for specifics isn't possible, we use a list of essential needs and then place the tools into our kit that will help us to meet those needs.

A major earthquake in California (where I live), can make our home unsafe to live in. Water, power, heat and shelter are all taken from us. Now that the essential needs are known, what would I need to put into my kit to cover our needs?

A major weather event can make the homes of those involved unsafe to live in. The event has changed, but not the situation. The essential needs of the individual remain the same.

As climate and location change, so do the specifics of the kit, but the essential needs remain the same.

A large scale power outage may not require us to leave our home, unless that power outage has caused another situation, or the initial situation that caused the power outage, is forcing us to leave. Again, we have lost the essentials and our preparedness kit is designed to get us through it.

Our preparedness isn't just a pocket survival kit. It covers inside our home, in our vehicle and away from both our home and vehicle. The little kit that we carry on our persons, at least to me, is a last resort kit that will help us cover our bare bones essential needs and that is all it's supposed to cover. What will aid us more than anything is our ability to utilize a solid level of skills that help us to adapt to the situation.
 
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