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Warning! If you have come to this post to see a list of Large Tactical Folder, that because of local carry laws has to be carried open or as stated in the laws where I live "in plain view or sight", that doesn't profile immediately as LTF, then don't waste your time here! I have listed the CRKT Otanashi noh Ken and asked for alternative options. I received two out of 44 post. Both where from TimberWeasel, God Bless him for reading the post and actually providing these: the Al Mar Eagle which unfortunately will not work in my case due the carry law and the Spyderco Chokwe which will work. Charles Mike provided some alternative carry options which may work for you on the 1 page. After that this post devolves in a discussion about any thing but an alternative knife. Primarily its a group that instead wanted to instruct why I didn't need a tactical blade, why I did not need a large knife, your wrong about carry law (as listed below see the post Commonsense Knife Carry for the Commonwealth under the Knife Laws forum for details on my research of VA carry law) ....ect. There a few exceptions like RedLynx and others but not many! And yes I became really torqued with some that wanted to hijack the post as a platform to hear themselves talk instead of providing information. If you are of a sensitive nature don't read this post because you will be offended! I learned some things here: There not many alternative to the CRKT Otanashi noh Ken and most people here want to tell you where your wrong and how their right and call it "helping" rather than answering your question and providing information about the subject matter of the post. I done with this post and will not be returning to view it again. Feel free to use it for anything you want, many already have. Beware: There be monsters here ... beyond this point and I know because I am the chief one of them! Turn back now! OP
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Since I have moved to VA I have to carry any folder with a blade length of 3.25" in "plain view" or open carry. (See the Knife Laws forum - Commonsense Knife Carry for the Commonwealth for the details) Carrying most Large Tactical folders where it can be seen just screams "Hey look at me, I am carrying a Large Tactical Folder! Please give me unwanted and unneeded attention!" which is not what I want to do. I have been looking for a new LTF the can be "covertly' carried in plain sight. In my price range of $100 or less I have narrowed it down to the CRKT Otanashi noh Ken. Its thin, the blade in not exposed when folded and especially from the backside, with, the 420J unscaled frame, the disk over-travel stop and the LAWKS "switch" it look more like some kind of tool than a knife, at least it does for me and hopefully to the causal observer. Looked at OTF but there too close to some of the "band" knives so I am avoiding them as well as assisted openers (unless that feature can be disabled). Fixed blades are fine for open carry but I want the same rules to apply. Thinking desecrate neck knife or small fixed blade 4" to 6" not "RAMBO - First blood" here. Is there some other options I have overlooked? Thanks <original post ended here but that was not enough info for some people>
It seems like I need to give some "why and wherefores" here so you know what I am looking for. I used Knife Right LegalBlade app to determine the carry law in my area (reference the post listed above for the why on that one) Open carry, from what I can ascertain mean as much of the knife exposed in plain view as possible. In VA carrying a folder clipped to the out side of the pocket seem to be a favored method, agree not the best carry option. The knife cannot be covered by clothing where it cannot be seen and yes a pocket seem to be out of order according to which LEO you ask. I am working with a sheath maker to see if we can come up with something more secure than clipping it to the outside of the pocket and is adjustable the knife can be seen beneath winter clothing. Please give me recommendation of knife brand and models as that is the information I trying to gather here. <second addendum>
Not trying to be a jerk but its going to come off that way so hang on. I am more than happy to discuss and entertain additional ins, outs, whys and wherefores but I already have the other thread, Knife Laws forum - Commonsense Knife Carry for the Commonwealth, and I think that is more appropriate place for that kind of discussion. So lets keep this post focused on knives not knife laws or "you don't need to do that... Heck, I been carrying 20" super ninja folding sword with the optional flame thrower attachment in my pocket for the last 100 years and never had an issue". I looking at what is legal (as best as can be determined todate). I am not interested in "its legal as long as you don't get caught." or "your not going to have an issue unless you doing something wrong" logic. See the other post and you will understand why I am "once bitten, twice shy" I have spent the last month studying, finding resources, written and interviews, and coming up with a workable understanding of what is and is not legal in each carry situations, with much help from the the LegalBlade app. Before that all I had to go off of was a bunch of options from well meaning but ill informed citizen of VA accumulated over the last 7 years which lead me not to carry a knife at all on a regular basis. I am just not interested in rehashing that here! Again the purpose of this post is to get specific knife information so I can look over options. "I'd carry a fixed blade hunting knife" is not very useful or helpful to that objective. Brand, Make Model and opinions about the knife suggested are more than welcome. Sorry for lack of info in the original post, lack tact and coming off rude here but instead of looking at knives, I am eating up time explaining myself to each and every poster thus far, with some notable exception. Thanks <third after much time wasted>
Let me add one more thing, I am looking for a large tactical blade preferably folders. I carried one every day for +40 years in Alabama legally ... where God intend for it to be carried in my pocket! The issue is moving to VA my CS Scimitar is in the open carry only category and that is not intended to be carried in the open. Thus the subject of this post. Many have tried to sell me on another type of knife .... I have them, but after 40+ year carrying a LTF it became a part of me. I always had a knife up to the task whatever that task was. I think I am a responsible adult, never drew blood with the knives I carried, except my own, for 8 year taught knife safety for the local BSA troop and still instruct kids on responsible and safe use of blades from pocket, to camp knives to axes. Now I think I have explained enough for a law abiding citizen. What difference does it make why I want to carry a LTF as long as I have not broken the law.... which I have not in 40 years of knife carry? Especially on a forum that should be dedicated knife ownership not Political Correctness ... or have we got to the point that what anyone wants to do has be justified in the court of public opinion? <forth and I still have seen very few realistic options. It because too many want to tell me where I wrong instead of presenting any>
Please Read before you comment!
Since I have moved to VA I have to carry any folder with a blade length of 3.25" in "plain view" or open carry. (See the Knife Laws forum - Commonsense Knife Carry for the Commonwealth for the details) Carrying most Large Tactical folders where it can be seen just screams "Hey look at me, I am carrying a Large Tactical Folder! Please give me unwanted and unneeded attention!" which is not what I want to do. I have been looking for a new LTF the can be "covertly' carried in plain sight. In my price range of $100 or less I have narrowed it down to the CRKT Otanashi noh Ken. Its thin, the blade in not exposed when folded and especially from the backside, with, the 420J unscaled frame, the disk over-travel stop and the LAWKS "switch" it look more like some kind of tool than a knife, at least it does for me and hopefully to the causal observer. Looked at OTF but there too close to some of the "band" knives so I am avoiding them as well as assisted openers (unless that feature can be disabled). Fixed blades are fine for open carry but I want the same rules to apply. Thinking desecrate neck knife or small fixed blade 4" to 6" not "RAMBO - First blood" here. Is there some other options I have overlooked? Thanks <original post ended here but that was not enough info for some people>
It seems like I need to give some "why and wherefores" here so you know what I am looking for. I used Knife Right LegalBlade app to determine the carry law in my area (reference the post listed above for the why on that one) Open carry, from what I can ascertain mean as much of the knife exposed in plain view as possible. In VA carrying a folder clipped to the out side of the pocket seem to be a favored method, agree not the best carry option. The knife cannot be covered by clothing where it cannot be seen and yes a pocket seem to be out of order according to which LEO you ask. I am working with a sheath maker to see if we can come up with something more secure than clipping it to the outside of the pocket and is adjustable the knife can be seen beneath winter clothing. Please give me recommendation of knife brand and models as that is the information I trying to gather here. <second addendum>
Not trying to be a jerk but its going to come off that way so hang on. I am more than happy to discuss and entertain additional ins, outs, whys and wherefores but I already have the other thread, Knife Laws forum - Commonsense Knife Carry for the Commonwealth, and I think that is more appropriate place for that kind of discussion. So lets keep this post focused on knives not knife laws or "you don't need to do that... Heck, I been carrying 20" super ninja folding sword with the optional flame thrower attachment in my pocket for the last 100 years and never had an issue". I looking at what is legal (as best as can be determined todate). I am not interested in "its legal as long as you don't get caught." or "your not going to have an issue unless you doing something wrong" logic. See the other post and you will understand why I am "once bitten, twice shy" I have spent the last month studying, finding resources, written and interviews, and coming up with a workable understanding of what is and is not legal in each carry situations, with much help from the the LegalBlade app. Before that all I had to go off of was a bunch of options from well meaning but ill informed citizen of VA accumulated over the last 7 years which lead me not to carry a knife at all on a regular basis. I am just not interested in rehashing that here! Again the purpose of this post is to get specific knife information so I can look over options. "I'd carry a fixed blade hunting knife" is not very useful or helpful to that objective. Brand, Make Model and opinions about the knife suggested are more than welcome. Sorry for lack of info in the original post, lack tact and coming off rude here but instead of looking at knives, I am eating up time explaining myself to each and every poster thus far, with some notable exception. Thanks <third after much time wasted>
Let me add one more thing, I am looking for a large tactical blade preferably folders. I carried one every day for +40 years in Alabama legally ... where God intend for it to be carried in my pocket! The issue is moving to VA my CS Scimitar is in the open carry only category and that is not intended to be carried in the open. Thus the subject of this post. Many have tried to sell me on another type of knife .... I have them, but after 40+ year carrying a LTF it became a part of me. I always had a knife up to the task whatever that task was. I think I am a responsible adult, never drew blood with the knives I carried, except my own, for 8 year taught knife safety for the local BSA troop and still instruct kids on responsible and safe use of blades from pocket, to camp knives to axes. Now I think I have explained enough for a law abiding citizen. What difference does it make why I want to carry a LTF as long as I have not broken the law.... which I have not in 40 years of knife carry? Especially on a forum that should be dedicated knife ownership not Political Correctness ... or have we got to the point that what anyone wants to do has be justified in the court of public opinion? <forth and I still have seen very few realistic options. It because too many want to tell me where I wrong instead of presenting any>
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