Then here's a nice list:
http://www.knife-depot.com/blog/top-10-knives-disguised-as-everyday-objects/
But I really like this one that they missed:
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Covert open carry Large Tactical Folder, Neck Knife of Fixed Blade.
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Then here's a nice list:
http://www.knife-depot.com/blog/top-10-knives-disguised-as-everyday-objects/
But I really like this one that they missed:
My suggestions:
I can't quite make out if that one in the middle is a Helle but it looks like it... that thing looks good. I'd take one.
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Yep use the same statement to my state senator and rep. Belt pouches will work in the summer not in the winter ... has to be visible not under clothing ...
so how are supposed to do that in 12 degree weather ... the LEO I asked said ... leave you coat unzipped or unbutton. Took that to my state reps and asked can I send them the medical bill :thumbup:- Joined
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Then here's a nice list:
http://www.knife-depot.com/blog/top-10-knives-disguised-as-everyday-objects/
But I really like this one that they missed:
Well that certainly doesn't look like a knife
I don't know how discreet that is though 
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Yep that good one for wilderness. I have Mora's as neck knives for that. I just not going to wear then in the metro area.
If you want a knife that looks like a tool and less like a "tactical knife", and one that is less likely to scare people, why not a multi-tool or swiss army knife. They will perform a wide variety of cutting chores, and I think it would be difficult for anyone to characterize them as weapons.
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The point here is a want a large tactical knife because I have always carried one until I move to VA, with its vague carry laws. That's 40+ years. It was always just there for whatever I needed if for. It was like part of me. My CS Scimitar and the Ka Bar folder my dad are in the open carry only category here in VA. Both profile as a large tactical knife ... which was not a problem in Alabama where I could carry them where they where meant to be carried in my pocket! Its the crazy carry law up here that got me on this quest.
Neither one is over 3.25", either.
The OP clearly values a big knife over a concealed one. A folder with a 3.25" edge probably has a total blade length closer to 3.5" from the handle. If that isn't big enough, a very big knife is called for.
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I'm with CM. Belt sheath
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I have a CRKT Convergence that is legal length. However I have always carried a large folder or LTF ... until moving to VA were you cannot carry one where God intended in my pocket! So after 40+ years it part of me and I miss having one. So let me ask an honest question, if I am diligently trying to comply with the law ... I have not shed anyone's blood on blade except my own and have a clean criminal record which I do ... what difference does it make what kind of knife I want to carry? Not jumping your cases but I thought this was BladeForums not MSNBC.
did I say that out loud, I do believe I did because its right there in print.
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So why not a Cold Steel Rajah 2?
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So why not a Cold Steel Rajah 2?
Same problem as the Talwar XL ... In VA I can't carry it in my pocket or concealed in any way and I think someones bound to notice.In fact that a little large for my preference as a folder but I not saying you cant own or carry it. At that point I might as well carry my CS R1. Cool knife thoughI have a CRKT Convergence that is legal length. However I have always carried a large folder or LTF ... until moving to VA were you cannot carry one where God intended in my pocket! So after 40+ years it part of me and I miss having one. So let me ask an honest question, if I am diligently trying to comply with the law ... I have not shed anyone's blood on blade except my own and have a clean criminal record which I do ... what difference does it make what kind of knife I want to carry? Not jumping your cases but I thought this was BladeForums not MSNBC.
That's twice that you've crapped on me for posting in this thread.
I was stating a fact - you want a knife longer than 3.25", and a SAK is much shorter than that. What is your problem?
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My problem, not with you personally, is your suggestion has nothing to do with the subject of this post, and why I started the post. Your not alone most of the other post haven't either. Not to be rude to you, but so you can understand where I coming form please go back to the opening post and read it. I have have written a virtual book, with addendums, covering questions like yours to explain what I looking of and why. In brief I own a host of knives of various shapes and sizes. I own a SAK. So if I wanted to carry a SAK I could however this has nothing to do with the information I requested specifically for this post. I am trying to find out if there are any Large Tactical Folders, Neck or smaller fixed, which can can be carried in covertly plain sight, due to fact of the ordinance where I live stated that a knife over 3.25 has to be open carry, that are an alternative to CRKT otanashi noh ken which to me doesn't profile, from the back side instantly as a knife (it has some details that lend to that appearance again explained in the opening post). I have asked specifically for Brand, Make and Model so I can look them up . So that you are other that read this are aware I have gotten a grand total of 2 knives that the posters was kind enough to read the post and tell me the information about the knife they where suggesting. I have gotten a many generic suggestion like what you posted "get a SAK" ( again not dumping on you but of illustration) so what model are you referencing? I was unaware that there was a tactical SAK. What did I expect? Something like this posted by timberweasel "Maybe an Al Mar Eagle..." That is useful and appreciated.
What I not trying to do is engage in a debate of what kind of knife I should be carrying and why or to discuss knife carry law. There already a post open for that. I done my homework on that subject and feel confident that I have a good grasp of what is legal and I have a source of documentation that can be carried with me in electronic so if I have to give justification I can . Again I legally carried a LTF or LF for 40+ years, in Alabama where it can be carried in pocket, so I like the knife style and that why I looking for information about other knives of the type specified in the opening post. I value that kind of information because it will either reaffirm that I did my homework correctly or give me more options. Having suggestion all most preached at me for something not germane to the topic or being questioned for a decision that, as a grown, responsible, law abiding, teacher of knife safety and 40+ year LTF owner without ever putting anyone else blood on my blade, I have the right (well maybe not the way this post is going) to own and then having justify myself over and over not so that this post can get back on track and give me information I can use not generic statements or personal opinions about why I be better off with another type of knife ... not so much! If I wanted the opinion of the Politically Correct Protectionist Nanny State crowd who loves to tell everyone "you don't need that" I could drive up the road to D.C. and hear all that I want, but for Pete's sake I certainly did expect to have to spend most of my time addressing the nanny state here of all places. And weather you meant that way or not, that's the flavor what I am hearing from you and others, sorry if that not your intent. If I wanted to have an open discussion like that this post has become would be titled "What the best knife for VA, I don't know what I want so please advise" Again that not the intent of this post.
So with that out of the way and as politely as I can stated. If you have suggestion a knife, make and model that fits the criteria of a LTF or Neck or that can be covertly carried in plan sight as defined in the opening post, please let me know. If you want to question why go the opening post. If you want to debate why or have question about VA blade carry laws please refence and use the other post. Thanks
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I didn't suggest the SAK. I just tried to clarify, on YOUR behalf, why a SAK wasn't going to meet your criteria.
You'll find that people who are really pushy about getting only the responses they expect don't usually get any. I'm done with your rudeness.
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I think you're looking in the right direction with the CRKT Otanashi Noh Ken for your intended use, Pale. I was pleasantly surprised by mine: decent materials, excellent fit & finish, very smooth, great design. It's a bargain for the price, imo. If you do get one and flip the pocket clip to hang off the outside of your pocket, at least you'll have that deep carry clip pressing against a nice quality/decently grippy G-10 for a little extra retention. Just note that in spite of the knife's sleek lines and thin design, it weighs over 6oz which might be a bit heavy for lighter pants/slacks.
In a similar compact package, the only other knife I can think of is an Emerson A-100 but it's almost double the budget, has a much thicker handle and a shorter blade at 3.6". You could check out a Cold Steel Hold Out 2 which is on budget and now available in Carpenter CTS XHP steel. I think the Hold Out looks aggressive, but perhaps some custom scales would help.
Kind of a long shot suggestion, but if you reckon a 3.75" blade would suffice, the Spyderco Chokwe might be an idea. It's certainly not designed to be a martial blade, but I think it would be enough to get an attacker to back off if you absolutely had to use it as a weapon (I don't know squat about knife-fighting, so take this suggestion for what it's worth.) The Chokwe looks a lot more gentlemanly, imo, and offers a lot of utility (wicked slicer!) It's been disco'd but they're still around for under $150.
*ETA: comparison photos of the CRKT Otanashi Noh Ken and Spyderco Chokwe
Hope this helps some
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In a similar compact package, the only other knife I can think of is an Emerson A-100 but it's almost double the budget, has a much thicker handle and a shorter blade at 3.6". You could check out a Cold Steel Hold Out 2 which is on budget and now available in Carpenter CTS XHP steel. I think the Hold Out looks aggressive, but perhaps some custom scales would help.
Kind of a long shot suggestion, but if you reckon a 3.75" blade would suffice, the Spyderco Chokwe might be an idea. It's certainly not designed to be a martial blade, but I think it would be enough to get an attacker to back off if you absolutely had to use it as a weapon (I don't know squat about knife-fighting, so take this suggestion for what it's worth.) The Chokwe looks a lot more gentlemanly, imo, and offers a lot of utility (wicked slicer!) It's been disco'd but they're still around for under $150.
*ETA: comparison photos of the CRKT Otanashi Noh Ken and Spyderco Chokwe
Hope this helps some
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i feel for ya bud, i really do. considering spring, fall, and winter clothing, im not sure how anyone would expect a folder to be visible AT ALL TIMES.
idk, i think id either move lol, or just bite the bullet and look at the smaller Emersons, maybe a mini CQC7. i know that isn't the answer youre looking for, but it seems the law has made things very complicated for you all, i carry knives on my belt during deer season, and i know they are hidden the majority of the time by a coat.
best of luck, i hope you find something that makes ya happy.
idk, i think id either move lol, or just bite the bullet and look at the smaller Emersons, maybe a mini CQC7. i know that isn't the answer youre looking for, but it seems the law has made things very complicated for you all, i carry knives on my belt during deer season, and i know they are hidden the majority of the time by a coat.
best of luck, i hope you find something that makes ya happy.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding that! I have stayed up way to late, explained myself way to many times and spent more time on this post than the information I have gotten out of it! Sorry that twenty question is not the game I want to play here I was hoping to get a list of equipment option not to debate the ins and out's. Again I think I made that pretty clear in the post. If that not your are the rest of the crowds cup of tea then I need to close this post down because it not doing me any good. Again Sorry for the misunderstanding! Latter
This is one of the most horrifically entertaining threads I can remember.
Seriously? Can't just get by with 3.24" blade? Really?
Then get a custom holster and a flaming yellow t-shirt that says, "Hey, look at my big knife."
"Mellow-drama is so much fun" -billy joel
Seriously? Can't just get by with 3.24" blade? Really?
Then get a custom holster and a flaming yellow t-shirt that says, "Hey, look at my big knife."
"Mellow-drama is so much fun" -billy joel
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