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Coyotes kill Cape Breton hiker

dougo83 said:
Soo...you shoot an animal that is doing absolutely nothing to you and is not a food source? :rolleyes:
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Very common depending on your POV.




Few years back my brother and I and a couple of his friends spent a whole day shooting jacks and squirrels on my bro's father n laws ranch , the buggers dig holes , cow steps in hole , cow breaks leg... critters get shot!

Tostig
 
I just can't see myself being killed by a coyote...maybe slightly annoyed but never killed.
 
Zaner01 said:
But involving children, rather than adults, and only fatal in one case.
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Not true. Facts are available, but not published by the left wing media. I know of cases personally, where adults have been attacked in there fenced in yard, while lounging by there pool, while walking in a supermarket parking lot. etc. etc. etc.

Before the argument starts, that these were not coyotes, but were hybrids or feral dogs. They were Coyotes. I am in close association with a wild life biologist and a DFG officer. The DFG officer specializes in removing problem coyotes, He is very busy.
 
An article in Outdoor Life , I believe, once told the story of a bow hunter having a heart attack, blacking out , then falling from his stand. When he awoke ,he was bleeding badly from an arrow wound and surrounded by a pack of snarling coyotes. I believe the state was Indiana. He made it through that and became a dedicated coyote hunter.
 
somthing isnt right with the situation aside from the death of the victim..Some kind of circumstance pushed the coyotes to attack..if it was coyotes in the first place.

If you corner any wild animal, you are in for an a$$ whoopin..hard to do when out in the bush though ..they could have been starving? Rabid.? Totally totally out of carachter for the little yoties..Somthings up.
 
dipbait said:
Im amazed the number of joggers and walkers listening to Ipods on streets. You would think they would want to hear traffic.

Poor girl.
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I don't know how they do it. listening to music is great, but it really throws my controlled breathing out of whack. I can't do it.
 
bikermikearchery said:
Not true. Facts are available, but not published by the left wing media.
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Conspiracy!

Point is, this is exceedingly rare occurrence. Death by coyote simply doesn't happen all that often. Even non fatal attacks are rare. You say there are significantly more. What are the verifiable numbers being suppressed by Those Who Don't Want Us To Know™, for some reason?

Regarding the iPod comments, is there any reason to believe that iPod use results in higher risk of accident or victimization? I'm sure some folks do have accidents because of them. But the thing is, such devices are ubiquitous. By and large, millions of hikers (and pedestrians, bicylists, drivers, etc) go out every day and are not hurt at all, even under the influence of iPod.

Lastly, the recommendation to carry a knife is a good one, even from a non knife nut perspective. But it seems silly to make such a recommendation, as if it's a magic charm against coyote attack. Most folks are simply not in a position to use a knife defensively when attacked by wild animal, and many, perhaps most, common pocket knives are simply unsuited to such a purpose. Perhaps the CBC is simply trying to allay irrational fear of coyotes with a little bit of irrational advice about iPods and knives.
 
bikermikearchery said:
Not true. Facts are available, but not published by the left wing media. I know of cases personally, where adults have been attacked in there fenced in yard, while lounging by there pool, while walking in a supermarket parking lot. etc. etc. etc.
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Let me rephrase: mostly involving children.

And with only two fatalities to date in all of North America -- only one fatality in California, as I said previously.

So a fatal attack on an adult, the first of its kind, is a highly unusual event, isn't it?
 
Zaner01 said:
Let me rephrase: mostly involving children.

And with only two fatalities to date in all of North America -- only one fatality in California, as I said previously.

So a fatal attack on an adult, the first of its kind, is a highly unusual event, isn't it?
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I guess I'm guilty of not digesting the whole statement before I posted a response.
Fatalities Are very rare, but Attacks are more common than most people think.
Even the attacks on adults were mostly to smaller women.
That doesn't make the lady laying out by her pool feel any better after she was attacked by coyotes who came over a 6' fence in day light in an urban area.
 
We should koyote girl's opinion on the matter...Probably will be something like - death by cow bell :D
 
here are some facts about 'yotes in eastern canada:

- they are overpopulated, thanks to simpering bleeding heart liberal types that successfully got a hunting ban on yotes put into place.

- they are not in their native area

- the foods they normally eat are not abundant in the area they are in (trail area where girl died)

- although the yotes are starving, disease has not killed them off yet.


all this was from a CO i know who specializes in pest removal management (coyotes, bears, cougars etc)
 
In the NE USA coyotes can reach 70 lbs, much larger than the typical SW ones. They hunt small animals alone but large animals are hunted in packs. In NY coyote/dog or coyote/wolf crosses are rare. Their useful niche is to eat feral dogs and cats !
 
Around here (KY) they are plentiful and big, compared to the higher altitude, arid lands out west, the environment is very rich here in comparison. They are very shy and you dont usually see them, once in a while you may see one crossing a field in the daylight. Look like a yellow German Shephard, Big. In the winter, you can here them running in packs and howling, yipping. They are non-native and destructive, destroy livestock (they kill young calves,etc. and have displaced/killed off older indigenous wildlife, such as red fox. There is no season or limit on them. Kill them where you find them. The pelts on the big boys are quite nice. There are some that trap them, but they are very difficult to trap. Some hunt them at night with night vision equipment, AR15 type semi-auto varmit guns and recorded game calls, etc. They are darn hard to catch up with. I have never heard about anyone getting attacked here, but they do kill a lot of cats and dogs. The definition of a verminous, varmit.
 
Tostig said:
Very common depending on your POV.




Few years back my brother and I and a couple of his friends spent a whole day shooting jacks and squirrels on my bro's father n laws ranch , the buggers dig holes , cow steps in hole , cow breaks leg... critters get shot!

Tostig
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Oh yea...we will shoot 'em off of the farm because they are a hazard to the livestock (our livelihood)The post I responded to said something along the lines of shooting them while just out hiking which I find both unecessary and irresponsible. I hike, hunt, sleep, and camp where coyotes roam and wouldn't shoot one unless it was giving me a reason to (I have yet to have that happen.)
 
Thought you might be interested in reading this letter, written by the victim's mother (from the Globe and Mail, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...er-from-coyote-victims-mother/article1344359/)

On behalf of my family, I want to express my deepest thanks for the outpouring of condolences and support from Taylor's friends and fans, near and far. My thanks to the hikers who called 911, the RCMP officer who first arrived on the scene and did his utmost to help her, as well as the incredible doctors and nurses at Queen Elizabeth II Hospital in Halifax who tried desperately to save her. I wish to also thank RCMP's Victims Services, and the Atlantica Hotel who've gone out of their way to support us during this difficult time.

There are no words to describe my grief. Taylor was my shining light, my baby, my confidante and best friend. My world is turned upside down and forever transformed without her. I don't know how to move forward from here but I know that she would want that for me and I will try to do that in her memory and celebrate her life in the way she lived it -- with passion, commitment and an unbridled loving heart.

I've noticed that the media have often mentioned that Taylor was hiking alone when the coyote attack occurred. I want people to know that Taylor was a seasoned naturalist and well versed in wilderness camping. She loved the woods and had a deep affinity for their beauty and serenity. Tragically it was her time to be taken from us so soon.

We take a calculated risk when spending time in nature's fold -- it's the wildlife's terrain. When the decision had been made to kill the pack of coyotes, I clearly heard Taylor's voice say, "please don't, this is their space". She wouldn't have wanted their demise, especially as a result of her own. She was passionate about animals, was an environmentalist, and was also planning to volunteer at the Toronto Wildlife Centre in the coming months.

Her loss is an incomprehensible tragedy on so many levels -- but everybody's messages of love and support and desire to keep her memory and music alive will help me to move forward and honour her short but full and vibrant life.

There will be a service and visitation, as well as a concert to celebrate her life and music.

Details will be finalized in the coming days.

With love and deep appreciation,

Emily Mitchell
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All the best,

- Mike
 
I recall a couple of instances of fatal coyote attacks on small children in the Los Angeles suburbs a few years back. One little girl of three playing on the back patio of her home was killed and partially consumed by what was described as a pack of three or four coyotes.

I guess they didn't spread across the country years ago because of the rivers and so on. Now we have multiple bridges across every major stream in the country so no impedance to their migration. Here in the west they used to have a birth cycle which followed that of rabbits and other small animals. When a periodic plague killed down the rabbit population the coyotes would have few or no pups. Then during 'fat' times, the coyote bitches would have litters of four or five.

Now that people and their 'developments' have spread all over I guess the coyotes are well fed all the time with pets and petfoods. They're smart, crafty animals and have been around for eons. An old trapper I used to know had a saying---"When the last human on this earth is drawing his last breath, there'll be a coyote and a cockroach waiting to eat him." BTW, armadillos have spread right along with the coyotes, they're all over now too.
 
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