CPK Pet Thread

They were baby steps today. (I've done all the things you mention previously with other dogs who had issues.)

He literally was in for a couple of minutes. If I had him in for a shorter period it would have been essentially pointless since there's no point letting the dog out of the crate until it is somewhat calmer than when it first decided "uh oh, I don't like this too much"...because letting him out then would tell him that that was the way to deal with it in future.

So I gave him a couple minutes, let him chill a bit even though he clearly wasn't happy being confined, and then let him out when it wouldn't appear that we caved.

It's gonna be a long process as it was with the Weimaraner.

I think maybe a lobotomy, (for one of us), might be in order.
 
Congrats Blues Blues !!!
Hope training goes well and Kobe gets to stay.
If the dog is food motivated you should carry treats while leash training. It’s important to try to get the dog to key on you and look up at you.
The previous posts on the crate training contain good advice and it’s not your first rodeo.
If you want to skip the days, possibly weeks or even months of training just get sh!7faced and pass out with your body halfway in the kennel.
Bear, my Newfie mix, didn’t like his crate at all. The third night I had him I passed out in his crate and he loved it from then on. It was the hard metal surface he didn’t like. But since we were still housebreaking I wasn’t willing to sacrifice towels. This was in my 20’s and I was very sore the next day… or two.
But it works.
 
Another piece of the puzzle...

Neither me nor my wife are on facebook...so I'm completely oblivious to what's on there. My wife just found an entry from August where someone from the facility said the following about the dog...(but was never mentioned to us). Honestly, at this point, I kinda love the dog and wouldn't want to change anything, but it would have been ethical to share.

From the description at the bottom of the image, you don't know whether the dog was abused prior to being housed at the facility, or was simply freaked out being there. (My bet is on abused before animal control brought it there.) I'd like to meet the fucker responsible...if there is one. But that's never gonna happen.

(Anyway, I'm gonna do what I can for this good boy. He deserves it.)

But how in the hell did they fail to disclose this prior to adoption? I had a lot of respect for this facility before finding this. (And I still like the folks I've dealt with.) My dad and his siblings spent years in orphanages and foster homes, so I have a weak spot for the neglected.

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Blues said:
They were baby steps today. (I've done all the things you mention previously with other dogs who had issues.)

He literally was in for a couple of minutes. If I had him in for a shorter period it would have been essentially pointless since there's no point letting the dog out of the crate until it is somewhat calmer than when it first decided "uh oh, I don't like this too much"...because letting him out then would tell him that that was the way to deal with it in future.

So I gave him a couple minutes, let him chill a bit even though he clearly wasn't happy being confined, and then let him out when it wouldn't appear that we caved.

It's gonna be a long process as it was with the Weimaraner.

I think maybe a lobotomy, (for one of us), might be in order.
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I don’t suggest asking the Mrs. which one needs a lobotomy it may not work out in your favor.
 
Elliott, congrats to both you and yours regarding Kobe and I, like all CPK'ers in here, truly wish for this Pup to ease into your lives, adjust to become a true "keeper" even though he is now a Kobe previously known as Keeper. Regarding that note on the bottom of the shelter's FB page, don't hold that against them for not disclosing it to you. TBH, I have seen that exact disclosure or something very similar to that stated as so on many of shelters' site in their FB postings. Pounds are busy and noisy places and some dogs are more reactive in more excited and more aggressive way (causing a raucous, jumping up and down, etc...) as opposed to some other dogs which tend to get totally withdrawn and reclusive / insular when the kennels come alive during those adoption visitations. If Kobe was indeed abused by inhumane "humans" in a past life, he will reveal those traits in due course. I suspect that he fears kennels because he was the withdrawn type whenever the shelter got "lit up" by visitors.
 
Casinostocks said:
Elliott, congrats to both you and yours regarding Kobe and I, like all CPK'ers in here, truly wish for this Pup to ease into your lives, adjust to become a true "keeper" even though he is now a Kobe previously known as Keeper. Regarding that note on the bottom of the shelter's FB page, don't hold that against them for not disclosing it to you. TBH, I have seen that exact disclosure or something very similar to that stated as so on many of shelters' site in their FB postings. Pounds are busy and noisy places and some dogs are more reactive in more excited and more aggressive way (causing a raucous, jumping up and down, etc...) as opposed to some other dogs which tend to get totally withdrawn and reclusive / insular when the kennels come alive during those adoption visitations. If Kobe was indeed abused by inhumane "humans" in a past life, he will reveal those traits in due course. I suspect that he fears kennels because he was the withdrawn type whenever the shelter got "lit up" by visitors.
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He's not much of a shrinking violet here...though he has his moments. Sucker can bound over furniture with the best of 'em. Not much of a play fighter, though he can be a little mouthy when he feels like it.

Anyway...
 
Blues: I am really glad you are giving that pup a chance. Not his fault he was treated like shit. I hope he chills out and things work out well.

The shelter is really irresponsible to not disclose that information. The Tibetan Mastiff that bit me had been beaten and ‘trained’ as an attack dog prior to being in a shelter. That wasn’t disclosed to the family (with a day care at home) who took him. It was only disclosed after it bit me. Most people truly suck!
 
Blues said:
He's not much of a shrinking violet here...though he has his moments. Sucker can bound over furniture with the best of 'em. Not much of a play fighter, though he can be a little mouthy when he feels like it.

Anyway...
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Well that is both a good and great thing; he seems to be doing much better in a more loving family environment. He can also most def still pick up on Skyler's scents trying to figure things out in his own head. Those scents and the vibes from you two tell him a story about the past which he's trying to put together. Animals are not as intelligent as us humans (well, mostly anyway) but we can't even scratch the surface when it comes to their natural instincts. Don't be too surprised if he's actually much younger than 2, sometimes they are not even 1 YO when most shelters guesstimate them as 1-2.
 
If I were a psychologist, and I'm clearly not, I'd say he displays something akin to autism. He has his moments, but he can spend a lot of time just decompressing on the two couches he's allowed access to. (Though he prefers our bed.)

It's sad...but we'll see what kind of dog we can reveal if we chip away at whatever it is that he's been encased within.
 
Blues said:
The crate is going to be the issue. I've fed him biscuits and meals in there with the crate open. Today after I walked him a couple of miles, he was not a happy camper when I closed it for the first time.

Still hasn't barked, but he was upset and testing the crate for ways to escape.

He's going to have to accept the crate or we won't be able to miss Friday sales when we go to the supermarket.
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Congratulations on the new pup!
Poor dude probably has a case of PTSD from being neglected and locked up by the previous owner so it’ll probably take time and trust.
He’s in good hands now though.
 
Blues said:
He's making impressive progress on the lead. Such a good boy. He's "getting" it.

Thanks to all of you for sharing ideas and good thoughts. No matter how old of a hand you are, it's always nice to get support from your friends.
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That's great news! Glad you found a new friend. I'm happy for both of you.

Something about a dog that helps accelerate healing the wounds caused by loss.

He seems like a good dog that will reward all your efforts.
 
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