Craftsman 2x42 Grinder Mods

There was another thread either on here on KD about cutting a slot in the rear of the guard on the top and the bottom for belt clearance (on the newer, 2-weel version), and then mounting a motor behind it with a drive wheel. I can't for the life of me find it now, though.

I've made pretty much all the conversions mentioned here (except for the 2 x 72" conversion) to mine. I just wish there was a cost-effective way of slowing it down some. The other mod I made was to make a proper platen assembly - the one that comes with the grinder bends fairly easily. I simply used a large piece of thick angle iron, and JB'ed a glass platen on it, supported by two bots at the bottom (after making sure the angle iron was flat, of course). IT is much sturdier now, and I actually trust it to stay level with the back of the belt.
 
I was wondering if you could include a photo of how you atatched the ceramic liner. I've been looking at doing the same, but I am probably over thinking it.


google 500dollarknifeshop and 2x42 , they have a bunch of video's on youtube of mods.
 
I was wondering if you could include a photo of how you atatched the ceramic liner. I've been looking at doing the same, but I am probably over thinking it.

Theres really not much to it. Go to USAknifemaker.com and look at their ceramic platens. Theres a tutorial on there about attaching a platen. But IMO on the 2x42 you should "beef up" the stock platen, don't put the ceramic directly on the stock platen. I'll post more pics of the platen when I get home later.
 
Theres really not much to it. Go to USAknifemaker.com and look at their ceramic platens. Theres a tutorial on there about attaching a platen. But IMO on the 2x42 you should "beef up" the stock platen, don't put the ceramic directly on the stock platen. I'll post more pics of the platen when I get home later.

I too just bought a 2x42, and would like to find out more about the ceramic platens. I've been searching USAknifemaker.com for a good half an hour now, and I can't find anything about any platens.???

Anyone know where on that site to look?

And if it's not too much to ask, What exactly do you mean by "beef up" the stock planten? How and why should this be done?

-Thanks
 
After reading the warnings on that page, I don't think I want one.
 
As long as you support the platen at the bottom with a couple of he bolts that are epoxied on and secured with a locking nut on the back, and make sure the platen has a nice thick coat of epoxy underneath it, you won't have any issues. I've been using mine a lot, and no issues at all. Probably the best mod for this grinder - the stock platen really sucks...
 
I just glued in my hex wrench for the tracking, cut out the top guard, and ground down the side of the platen to get a nice sharp angle, soon I will get some glass or ceramic. Not a bad little machine especially for the money
 
Ok heres the scoop on the "beefed up" platen.

I added an extension for a few reasons. First my platen didnt come out far enough, it didnt even reach the belt. Second, it wasnt perpendicular to the belt. And third, the edges are rounded, which makes it difficult to grind on the side of the belt. IMO the platen is a really bad design on this grinder.

Here we go! I would do a few things different a second time around, so I hope you don't mind me being a bit long winded here to explain!

1. First I got some 2"x 3/16" steel from Home Depot. I would do 2" x 1/4" instead if you can find it. Then I cut it dwon to two 10" lengths. IMO just use 1pc of 3/16" or 1/4", with a ceramic or hardened steel liner (added later) the 1 piece of steel will be fine.

2. Then setup the platen as you normally would, but back it off at least 3/16-1/4" from the belt, or enough to stick the 10" piece of steel between the platen and belt. Line up the steel with the BELT, not the platen. The platen is not parallel to the belt (at least on mine). Then mark with a sharpie where the steel should be on the platen, draw a line along the side of the steel down the platen on both sides.

3. Next I C-clamped the platen and steel together on the drill press and drilled 2 holes through it. I think it was a 11/64" bit. Then remove the c-clamps and steel. Next drilled through the holes on a platen with a slightly larger bit. This will give you a little "play" when you JB weld the platen and steel later.

4. I picked up a countersink at sears and countersunk the holes on the STEEL. Make sure you countersink the correct side, I did the wrong side and had to do it all over again! Then put a pair of flathead bolts and fastened it with a washer and nuts. IMO I would add some JB Weld to hold this together if doing it again. Just be sure you have the steel lined up where it needs to be, no going back once this stuff hardens.

Heres what it looked like when done:
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Now the ceramic platen liner. This is a bit easier.

1. Got a ceramic liner from USAKnifemaker.com. Great people, great service. First I used a sanding block with 60 grit paper and rubbed on the platen. Particularly to make sure the screws were flush with the platen. Hold the ceramic on the platen to see if its flat. Then I scuffed up the surface of the platen with 36 grit paper (actually an old belt). Also scuffed the glass, but very slightly. Cleaned it with Acetone. USAKnifemakers recommends using rubbing alcohol.

2. Then I used a L-square to make a straight line across the platen at the bottom to mark where the screws should be drilled. Drill two holes through the platen. Then I put two socket head screws and a pair of nuts. This is to prevent the ceramic liner from dropping into the drive wheel. If you dont get the screws lined up, you can use a file to ground one down to make it even. I got lucky, actually drilled it twice, second time it lined up perfect.

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3. Then I held the platen flat in my vise, but I would imagine a better way is just to put the belt grinder assembly in the flat position, aka parallel with the workbench. I didnt have much room on the bench, so I held it in the vise.

4. Then lots of JB Weld! I put it on about 1/16"-3/32" thick. Put the ceramic platen on, then move it around a bit to make sure there are no air pockets. Push it down with a little pressure (not a lot!) to squeeze out the air pockets. Dont clamp it or push too hard, you want some cushioning there.

5. I let it sit for 24hrs before trying it out.


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jaymeister99,

Thanks for the little write up, nice looking mods! Was the purpose of adding the larger piece of steel over the stock platten, just to give a larger surface to attach the ceramic to?


...also, my Craftsman 2x42 is brand new, and when I turn it on it just buzzes most of the time, and I have to start the belt moving by hand to get it going. Is that normal??
 
I wonder if this would work ?? I have never used one but have seen them in woodworking catalogs for years. http://woodworker.com/router-speed-control-mssu-821-539.asp

No. That will fry your motor. The cheapest way to slow it down is to get another motor and hook it up with a v-belt. See the link to the youtube video in one of the other posts. But IMO you can do it cheaper and much simpler than that setup. If you can get your hands on a used 2/3-1hp motor you can do it cheap.


I had another idea about using a Craftsman adjustable speed bench grinder. This could work two ways:

A. Rip off the grinding wheels and set it up with a V-belt. You might have to make some arbor adapters, but these can be made fairly cheap with a drill press and some spacers.

B. Have several adapters machined, you could slap the whole belt sander assembly onto the adjustable speed bench grinder. But if you have the means to do this then you probably dont need to be tinkering with a 2x42, go make yourself a nice 2x72:thumbup:
 
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Thanks for the little write up, nice looking mods! Was the purpose of adding the larger piece of steel over the stock platten, just to give a larger surface to attach the ceramic to?

Thanks, Im happy to post it! The biggest reason was that the stock platen didn't come out far enough. There was about a 1/4" gap between the belt and platen.

I did also want a larger surface area to try to flatten my blade stock. But that will soon be done on a new 6x48 grinder from Harbor Freight.

...also, my Craftsman 2x42 is brand new, and when I turn it on it just buzzes most of the time, and I have to start the belt moving by hand to get it going. Is that normal??

I would bet you got the newer one with the 1/3hp motor. I don't know, I got the older one with the 2/3hp, it starts up by itself without any help. I would think it should have enough power to get going by itself.
 
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I have the 1/3 hp model, and it starts up by itself every time. Sounds like there's something wrong with yours.
 
Just bought mine a little over a week ago and it starts right up every time without anything other than flipping the switch.... something's probably wrong with yours.
 
Just bought mine a little over a week ago and it starts right up every time without anything other than flipping the switch.... something's probably wrong with yours.

Yeah, that's what I figured. :o Too bad mine is only about a week old as well!

I was just messing with it again, and now it will not get going at all on its own. I thought there was a chance that the belt was rubbing or too tight or something, so I took the belt completely off, and it still will not turn over without an assist from from my hand!

UUUG, and I just got it all set up too! Looks like it's going back to Sears for another. :mad:

At least I haven't started cutting and modding it yet.
 
Yeah - sounds like a return to me. albeit a bit on the fast side, it is a great little grinder all in all, though. I think you'll be happy with it once you get it set up and running smoothly (without having to kick-start it :) ).
 
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