Craftsman stamps

crbnSteeladdict said:
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It looks like the final answer when it comes to those unique, squarish phantom bevels is Mann
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-M-MANN-PHANTOM-BEVEL-3-LB-11-OZ-SINGLE-BIT-4-AXE-HEAD-/224273033605?hash=item3437b6e985:g:eGsAAOSw96Ff0iwN&nma=true&si=wTTLdVrmmoXoY4f1IkFVlutOrSg%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
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Yankee Josh said:
Was there ever any real doubt? :D:thumbsup:
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Yes, there was. You could say they have F# markings, but it it just was not enough for my brain. I know, I know many older Craftsman's shapes resemble True American or Knot Klipper heads. Still, till this fleabay posting I was not able find any Mann marked phantom or labeled bevel heads that would resemble those Craftsmans. Glad my search is over. In the process I have found bunch of full size Craftsmans/Dunlaps made by Vaughan, Collins, TT, and METCo. It would be so cool to one day see Tropical Axe with Craftsman mark.
 
crbnSteeladdict said:
Yes, there was. You could say they have F# markings, but it it just was not enough for my brain. I know, I know many older Craftsman's shapes resemble True American or Knot Klipper heads. Still, till this fleabay posting I was not able find any Mann marked phantom or labeled bevel heads that would resemble those Craftsmans. Glad my search is over. In the process I have found bunch of full size Craftsmans/Dunlaps made by Vaughan, Collins, TT, and METCo. It would be so cool to one day see Tropical Axe with Craftsman mark.
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I was convinced a long time ago due to the weight stamp font and placement. Totally a Mann feature. Plus the other similarities you mentioned.
But I was half joking in my above post.;) I have to admit, convinced though I already was, I was happy to see that listing when you shared it with me. Further evidence of anything in this hobby is always welcome! :thumbsup:
 
Yankee Josh said:
I was convinced a long time ago due to the weight stamp font and placement. Totally a Mann feature. Plus the other similarities you mentioned.
But I was half joking in my above post.;) I have to admit, convinced though I already was, I was happy to see that listing when you shared it with me. Further evidence of anything in this hobby is always welcome! :thumbsup:
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To tell you the truth, finding pictures of squarish Phantom bevel Champion muddied the whole thing greatly (Causes even more questions about dealings between AA&Tco and METco. But, that subject requires another thread).
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Recently acquired this Craftsman hatchet and can't seem to find any info regarding this particular mark.
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I've found similar marks but none with both the same shaped oval and the same font. Note the shape of the "A" with its broad shoulders. Anyone aware of a site with a comprehensive listing of Craftsman logos? Thanks, T-A
 
David Nowlin said:
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Found this little gem just haven't bought it yet?
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Anyone know the approximate age and manufacturer of this stamp style? This thread hinted at Fulton making F# marked heads, but the Peg said it’s likely Vaughn. Is there a consensus?

I ask because, there’s one I’m looking to purchase that has this exact stamp and an F9 on the opposite side. It’s also rounded-cheeked like this one.

thanks!
 
attila. said:
Anyone know the approximate age and manufacturer of this stamp style? This thread hinted at Fulton making F# marked heads, but the Peg said it’s likely Vaughn. Is there a consensus?

I ask because, there’s one I’m looking to purchase that has this exact stamp and an F9 on the opposite side. It’s also rounded-cheeked like this one.

thanks!
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The F9 in this case is probably something the manufacturer always used regardless of who they were making the head for, I do not think it's an OEM code Sears had.

If I remember correctly ttis style pointed A in the Craftsman logo was replaced across the board by the flattened barn roof A in the early 70's which continues on to this day.
I would say this is a 50's axe.
 
Square_peg said:
OK, here's the 1926 reference.

" The first mystery company is the Craftsman Tool Company of Champaign, IL. This company is listed in Franklin's Directory from 1924 through 1926. Now there is a Cushman Company listed in 1923, also in Champaign, but that is probably a misprint or the company was bought by or merged with the Craftsman Company. There are no instances where companies are known to produce shoes for just one year. There are no Craftsman shoes found by this company's brand name, although there are many shoes bearing the name Craftsman. They were actually made by the Marion Tool Corporation of Marion, Indiana. The Indiana company is first listed in 1936. The 10-year gap makes it rather unlikely there is any correlation between the two companies. Marion Tool produced three models through the 1930s and 1940s: a plain bookless model, then-first hooked model had very small blunt hooks, and the supreme design, the Craftsman Ace is rare in its own right, for only one set is known in collection. The Craftsman shoes have no relationship with the Sears & Roebuck Company, although the catalog did sell pitching shoes for decades. "

http://www.horseshoepitching.com/dunn/may-jun99.html

So there you have Craftsman Tools disappearing in 1926. They were in receivership in 1922 according to the Papawswrench site. Then Sears brings out their Craftsman brand in 1927.
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1923 DEALER Ad​

 
I know this is an old thread, but here's an article (that I'm still trying to source and authenticate) that claims the Marion Tool Corporation bought the "Craftsman Tool Company" of Champaign in 1929. I'm trying to source the article so I can read the rest and determine it's veracity. I got interested by researching the Marion company because my wife is from there, and got extra interested when the Champaign company popped up, because I'm from there.

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Creek_Stomper said:
I know this is an old thread, but here's an article (that I'm still trying to source and authenticate) that claims the Marion Tool Corporation bought the "Craftsman Tool Company" of Champaign in 1929. I'm trying to source the article so I can read the rest and determine it's veracity. I got interested by researching the Marion company because my wife is from there, and got extra interested when the Champaign company popped up, because I'm from there.

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Thanks, Creek Stomper. I appreciate the new data.
 
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