CRK Heat Treat

What do ya think?

  • Good where it's at 58-59 hrc

    Votes: 1 100.0%

  • Needs to be hardened to atleast 59 hrc

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Needs to change back to BG42

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    1
Well I tried for as long as I could but as soon as I get back in town my NIB BG42 Mnandi will no longer be NIB.
 
I dont think there is conclusive results for an answer to this question. CRK appeals to a large crowd of people and everyones experiences and expectations differ. I trust Mr. Reeves decision in steel and heat treat as much as I trust other makers the same way to offer a balance.

I know there are some that prefer one over the other. Some find BG42 hard to sharpen (through the years on the forums I have realised this).

Personally I think CRK just shake their head sometimes at us. Then we want this then that...higher lockup....lower lockup...this blade X over that Y....after a few years no Y over X...this shape over that. For the small company they are they cant provide us with everything. AND I LIKE IT THAT WAY!
 
JNewell said:
Or :D more accurately, it looks like the majority of people in this subforum would prefer a change.
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Yeah and these are probably mostly CRK fans or they wouldn't even be in this subforum. I understand they're a small company but they were able to change steel before from ATS34 to BG42 and now 58-59 S30V. I don't seewhy they can't stay on the cutting edge and maybe use something like that new CTS-XHP
 
The reason that I sold my Sebenza was that I was tired of the constant edge maintenance. My Spyderco Para is S30V and it would hold an edge better than my Seb by quite a wide margin. I loved the precision and design of my Seb, but when all the fondling is done and it's time to get to work it didn't work out for me. I would surely pick up another Seb if they changed the blade steel to something else or hardened up the S30V to make it worth using. I actually check in to this sub forum quite often hoping for a blade steel change announcement.
 
never too sharp said:
Of all the blades that go into my pocket(most of them being S30V), my Sebenza needs the most attention. :(:confused:
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I'm glad you said this. Among all my Emersons, Al Mars, and even Kershaws, my Seb (by far the most expensive) also needs the most attention. There's an easy explanation for this: I hold the Seb to a much higher standard. I can accept a slightly gritty blade action from my Mini Com, or a bit of lateral wobble from my Skyline, but I refuse to accept anything but perfection from my Sebenza. So it gets cleaned monthly, and I will blow out the pivot with compressed air and swab down the tang at least once a week. The blade gets used harder and more often than any other- I've even used it to cut wire- and so I also have to sharpen it more often. Some of that sharpening might be avoided by pushing the S30V to 59 or higher, but I have to agree with another poster who said that while my Seb can quickly lose its shaving-sharpness, it holds a usable edge for a very, very long time.

Another quick note: The Spyderco Sharpmaker usually gives a finer edge that results in ultimate sharpness; however, this can dull quickly. The Warthog V-Sharp produces a somewhat toothier edge that is not as supremely sharp, but it retains cutting power for much longer.
 
This is all BS.....anyone having issues doesn't know how to sharpen a knife (IMO).

I guess the sticky at the top of the page also needs to be high lighted in RED. :D
 
bigmark408 said:
This is all BS.....anyone having issues doesn't know how to sharpen a knife (IMO).

I guess the sticky at the top of the page also needs to be high lighted in RED. :D
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I can sharpen the knife quite easily; more easily in fact than my knives which are hardened to a higher degree.
But, even though I'm generally not running in the "hard use" category, my Umnumzaan does need sharpening more often than my other S30V knives at a higher hardness level.
Not a huge deal, but for me, I'd trade slightly easier sharpening for slightly more hardness.
Not a deal-breaker though.:)
 
SteelSnob said:
I hope Chris Reeve reads this. I will buy another Seb and Mnandi of they up the blade hardness or go back to BG42. I already own 4 CRK folders but I'm willing to buy more.
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Thanks for posting this ....i think Chris is turning up the heat as we type....Chris and Anne can finally buy that big house. :D
 
stabman said:
I can sharpen the knife quite easily; more easily in fact than my knives which are hardened to a higher degree.
But, even though I'm generally not running in the "hard use" category, my Umnumzaan does need sharpening more often than my other S30V knives at a higher hardness level.
Not a huge deal, but for me, I'd trade slightly easier sharpening for slightly more hardness.
Not a deal-breaker though.:)
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Mine all work fine, i have a few and i use them...proper edge man, proper edge !!
 
bigmark408 said:
Mine all work fine, i have a few and i use them...proper edge man, proper edge !!
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It works fine, and has the same edge angle on it as my other S30V knives.
It just needs sharpening slightly more often.
Because it's just a slight thing, I'm not too concerned.
There's no perfect steel or hardness; it's all about what the individual wants/needs for their uses.
 
stabman said:
It works fine, and has the same edge angle on it as my other S30V knives.
It just needs sharpening slightly more often.
Because it's just a slight thing, I'm not too concerned.
There's no perfect steel or hardness; it's all about what the individual wants/needs for their uses.
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Now were on the same page. ;)
 
Personal attacks are unnecessary and inappropriate.
Stick to critiquing the products, NOT each other.
 
If everyone is so disappointed with the edge retention of 57-58-whatever S30V I'll be you're mortified with the edge retention of 440C or 154CM in other knives. :)
 
Ive used my seb a lot, and have found that it does sometimes get a flat quicker than my other blades, I don't find it a problem at all.

I have used a ton of variety of steels, and one thing I haven noticed, it that most of the higher end stainless steels perform similarily. Some are harder to sharpen, some stay sharp a little longer. Overall, I dont notice huge differences. I would love to test peoples ability to identify steels without knowledge ahead of time. Id be seriously impressed by someone that could.
 
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