We still can own firearms(longarms) under licence just nothing auto/semi,but can own repeating leaver or pump action rifles, Pistols (semi autos) can be obtained and used for target shooting at a range or approved area only but require a different licence which is more strict. Its a pain in the arse(ass) process to go through to get a firearms licence and requires renewing each year with strict conditions for storage of guns and ammo wich are often checked by the boys in blue. So we still have some fire power just not for self defence.
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We still can own firearms(longarms) under licence just nothing auto/semi,but can own repeating leaver or pump action rifles, Pistols (semi autos) can be obtained and used for target shooting at a range or approved area only but require a different licence which is more strict. Its a pain in the arse(ass) process to go through to get a firearms licence and requires renewing each year with strict conditions for storage of guns and ammo wich are often checked by the boys in blue. So we still have some fire power just not for self defence.
I'm unsure don't know to much about those if its self loading No but if its just a repeating it should be right but the calibre and how many rounds rounds in the mag might make a difference, but i have seen a few in collections (thats all there really good for) so must be able to own them maybe not shoot with them, I'm no expert.
:grumpy: The limbs still flex. It's pullies are no more complex than using a stick as lever. And modern archers generally shoot circles around the traditional archery guys, who, except for a select few, at nearly every range I've been to, pepper arrows all over the backstop and woods.
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Eric...
That's not true at all..
Modern compound bows are Very complex. The wheels or Cams are tuned and timed. require a special bow press , and a skilled technician to work on them. Most have sites, weights and a number of other devices including releases and high let off percentages...
Traditional archers,, most of them don't have Any of this. and I'd bet most of them know how to tie their own bowstrings and manage to do any repairs themselves..
Compound bows may shoot circles around tradtional bows,, but it's because of these devices that they do. Put a tradtional bow in the hands of a skilled acher,, and you will see that they are Very accurate and produce very close weights...
Put a tradtional bow in the hands of most compound bow shooters and they'll be lost, and more than likely couldn't handle the constant draw weights.
Longbow...
The Poachers/Crossbow weapon of choice is a stereotype that continues to follow the crossbow from the time when the Pope banned the crossbow during times of war.
It simply isn't true..
ttyle
Eric
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Eric...
That's not true at all..
Modern compound bows are Very complex. The wheels or Cams are tuned and timed. require a special bow press , and a skilled technician to work on them. Most have sites, weights and a number of other devices including releases and high let off percentages...
Traditional archers,, most of them don't have Any of this. and I'd bet most of them know how to tie their own bowstrings and manage to do any repairs themselves..
Compound bows may shoot circles around tradtional bows,, but it's because of these devices that they do. Put a tradtional bow in the hands of a skilled acher,, and you will see that they are Very accurate and produce very close weights...
Put a tradtional bow in the hands of most compound bow shooters and they'll be lost, and more than likely couldn't handle the constant draw weights.
Longbow...
The Poachers/Crossbow weapon of choice is a stereotype that continues to follow the crossbow from the time when the Pope banned the crossbow during times of war.
It simply isn't true..
ttyle
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I shoot a compund bow ( Im in NSW so its as close as I get to a cross bow )
I use a whiskerbiscut rest and I use either a work glove or barefingers instead of a release . yes I have a HELL of a callous on my fingers from this .
I learned on self made bows as a kid , I used to take rabbits and the ocasional feral cat with home made bow and arrows . when I got a job and an income I bought archery mags and then a cossbow , later still a rifle .... now Im back to a bow , a cheapo compound bow bought off ebay , I shoot wood shaft arrows , and carbon fibre arrows .
I LOVE blackstump broad heads , they cheap theyre dammed effective . I guess I shoot a compound bow , traditionaly kinda
I use a whiskerbiscut rest and I use either a work glove or barefingers instead of a release . yes I have a HELL of a callous on my fingers from this .
I learned on self made bows as a kid , I used to take rabbits and the ocasional feral cat with home made bow and arrows . when I got a job and an income I bought archery mags and then a cossbow , later still a rifle .... now Im back to a bow , a cheapo compound bow bought off ebay , I shoot wood shaft arrows , and carbon fibre arrows .
I LOVE blackstump broad heads , they cheap theyre dammed effective . I guess I shoot a compound bow , traditionaly kinda
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We can buy crossbows down here but the selection is limited. Conspicuous by its absence is regular archery gear, you almost never encounter it in stores and when you do it is backyard cardboard target stuff that is of no use.
Crossbows of 150 lb draw weight are fairly common, far less expensive, and not regulated like firearms. I've thought about getting one but I have a hard time seeing them as an upgrade from what I already have. They also sell those pistol type crossbows but they seem like yard toys as well.
I have a Hoyt 55 lb takedown recurve and 24 aluminum arrows, 10 with Zwicky single blade broadheads. I also have a quiver that will hold six arrows on the bow. I'm a capable archer but not an expert by any means. A crossbow just seems like an expensive proposition for a very powerful, but slow firing weapon.
Other than a black powder shotgun I don't have any long arms down here. Gone are the days when you could buy a 12 ga shotgun or lever action rifle in Brazil. It is still possible but the legal and financial hurdles are such that it is practically impossible. Mac
Crossbows of 150 lb draw weight are fairly common, far less expensive, and not regulated like firearms. I've thought about getting one but I have a hard time seeing them as an upgrade from what I already have. They also sell those pistol type crossbows but they seem like yard toys as well.
I have a Hoyt 55 lb takedown recurve and 24 aluminum arrows, 10 with Zwicky single blade broadheads. I also have a quiver that will hold six arrows on the bow. I'm a capable archer but not an expert by any means. A crossbow just seems like an expensive proposition for a very powerful, but slow firing weapon.
Other than a black powder shotgun I don't have any long arms down here. Gone are the days when you could buy a 12 ga shotgun or lever action rifle in Brazil. It is still possible but the legal and financial hurdles are such that it is practically impossible. Mac
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Pict...
I think you are a little misinformed as for the speed of a crossbow...
Excalibur's lightest bow the Vixen shoots at 285 fps out of the box with a 150lb draw weight, with standard aluminum bolts. Switch to carbon fiber, and the speed only increases.
The Exocet is 330 fps at 200lbs
The ExoMax is 350 fps at 225lb draw weight
350 fps out of any bow is Screaming...
The ExoMax is the fastest recurve crossbow on the market...
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Pict...
I think you are a little misinformed as for the speed of a crossbow...
Excalibur's lightest bow the Vixen shoots at 285 fps out of the box with a 150lb draw weight, with standard aluminum bolts. Switch to carbon fiber, and the speed only increases.
The Exocet is 330 fps at 200lbs
The ExoMax is 350 fps at 225lb draw weight
350 fps out of any bow is Screaming...
The ExoMax is the fastest recurve crossbow on the market...
ttyle
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Sasha
I personally think they are Very dangerous , and pretty much useless...
Most of the ones I've seen are of Very poor construction..
The trigger group on them are cheap and can't hold up the weight of the bow itself
I've seen brand new ones go off cocked, for no reason at all...
I'd stay away from them myself....
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Sasha
I personally think they are Very dangerous , and pretty much useless...
Most of the ones I've seen are of Very poor construction..
The trigger group on them are cheap and can't hold up the weight of the bow itself
I've seen brand new ones go off cocked, for no reason at all...
I'd stay away from them myself....
ttyle
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It looks like the OP is in Australia. Guns are very evil in Australia. :barf:
I think a crossbow would be fun for plinking, and wouldn't mind owning one someday, but in CT only disabled people are allowed to hunt with them, and a firearm is definetely more effective.
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mp510...
For the most part I would agree with you that a firearm makes short work of most animals...
For black bear I Only hunt with a crossbow. My second choice would be 12 guage slug.
The crossbow broadhead does such massive damage to a bear it's not even funny.
On all the bear I've shot I've had pass through shots which literally cuts a 1.5" wide tunnel through the bear.
The bear dies from Massive organ damage and blood loss in a matter of seconds.
What happens with a rifle buttet is that not always, do you get a pass through shot. both entry and exit holes plug up with fur and fat, leaving the animal to bleed internally.
What I'm looking for is to cut a channel through the animal so it can't plug up and bleeds out imediately.
Literally within seconds of arrow impact the heart has pumped out the majority of the animals blood and it escapes through the entry and exit holes, keeping in mind that the holes are 1.5" to sometimes 2.0 " long depending on the angle of the cut....
Other achers will tell you the exact same thing...
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mp510...
For the most part I would agree with you that a firearm makes short work of most animals...
For black bear I Only hunt with a crossbow. My second choice would be 12 guage slug.
The crossbow broadhead does such massive damage to a bear it's not even funny.
On all the bear I've shot I've had pass through shots which literally cuts a 1.5" wide tunnel through the bear.
The bear dies from Massive organ damage and blood loss in a matter of seconds.
What happens with a rifle buttet is that not always, do you get a pass through shot. both entry and exit holes plug up with fur and fat, leaving the animal to bleed internally.
What I'm looking for is to cut a channel through the animal so it can't plug up and bleeds out imediately.
Literally within seconds of arrow impact the heart has pumped out the majority of the animals blood and it escapes through the entry and exit holes, keeping in mind that the holes are 1.5" to sometimes 2.0 " long depending on the angle of the cut....
Other achers will tell you the exact same thing...
ttyle
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Sounds like I should go look for a new bow...and a new hobby in fall.
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Crossbows were "outlawed" because they allowed a peasent the ability to pierce plate armour with very little practice.
Sir butthead didn't like the thought that the yocals could do them in.
When I shoot my longbow and miss, I can find my arrows, when I shoot my crossbow and miss, I can never find my bolts, if you hit the ground with a bolt it drills itself into the ground deeply, good-bye expensive bolt (7 dollars or so)
And do not fire a bolt into a solid target like a tree stump, it is almost impossible to remove the thing when you do that....don't ask....
Sir butthead didn't like the thought that the yocals could do them in.
When I shoot my longbow and miss, I can find my arrows, when I shoot my crossbow and miss, I can never find my bolts, if you hit the ground with a bolt it drills itself into the ground deeply, good-bye expensive bolt (7 dollars or so)
And do not fire a bolt into a solid target like a tree stump, it is almost impossible to remove the thing when you do that....don't ask....
not so much to do the the crossbow. I used to date a girl a long time ago she worked at the ER here in LA. When i asked her about gun shoots which people were hit that she noticed they had very little chance and things like that. One of the answers she gave me was that 5-6" knife would cause more damege and kill more people then a .45 unless the guy got shoot in the palm of his hand. She said knife cause 2-3 times more damege. And out of the knife the worst ones are the sarated blades. The cut they make you cant even saw back you need to cut around the wound and then saw it back togher. They had a guy in the ER that someone stabed him with an arrow. He died on the table from all the internall blood loss.
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I have nothing against crossbows. They allow those that don't want to hunt with a firearm, or can't handle the hunting weights of a traditional bow or compound, to get in close and hunt.
Unfortunately, a good friend of mine in Calif. Dept of fish and game has confiscated over a dozen of the Xbows from poachers (unlicensed hunter), in just the last 2 years and rifle hunters continue to find animals running around with arrows hanging out of them, but when they kill the animal and take the evidence to the DFG, 8 of 10 turn out to be bolts, as Xbows are allowed to hunt, only during the general (firearm) hunting season here.
Unfortunately, a good friend of mine in Calif. Dept of fish and game has confiscated over a dozen of the Xbows from poachers (unlicensed hunter), in just the last 2 years and rifle hunters continue to find animals running around with arrows hanging out of them, but when they kill the animal and take the evidence to the DFG, 8 of 10 turn out to be bolts, as Xbows are allowed to hunt, only during the general (firearm) hunting season here.