Crowbar or Knife?

[Supra1988t]

Common sense really shouldn't be called common sense anymore.

 

[TheCarbideRat]

^^^Dude, MAY we know what you are getting at??^^^

 

[Raining]

So...what was the knife?

 

[antonio_luiz]

So...what was the knife?

Whatever it was it couldn't have been too inexpensive cause his mate is p_ssed off that it broke

 

[Jason B.]

As the saying goes......... A knife is the most expensive prybar you will ever break.

Plain and simple, Don't pry with a 300 dollar knife. If that thing between yer ears says "it might break" then for the love of god DON'T DO IT!

 

[Gadgetaholic]

:barf: My friend John Doe bought a new knife that cost around $300.00.He just called yelling at me because the blade broke.

Tell him the blade didn't break because it was defective, the break occurred due to use error! What we in the computer industry call an I-D-Ten-T error.

For $300 bucks I could get a couple of good knives + a claw hammer + a prybar. I can't think of a good reason why I would use a knife to pry stuff - especially something like a bolt out of some wood. Not a clever move IMO.

 

[rayban]

THELASTDAZE

He only uses old highly figured wood for his projects.

Then you would think he has the right tools for the job. (??)

 

[Vicarious Reality]

What steel would be the best choice for a sharp prybar?
1055? 420?

 

[GWashington1732]

I'm not sure I understand the process of using a knife as a prybar, let alone the mindset that let to it. Could someone please explain to me how one could possibly use a knife to pry out a bolt?

 

[TheCarbideRat]

What steel would be the best choice for a sharp prybar?
1055? 420?

1055 is good also Vanadium, O1, or 5160 maybe...

 

[hardheart]

vanadium is an alloying element, you don't make tools out of it alone

 

[1066vik]

I'm not sure I understand the process of using a knife as a prybar, let alone the mindset that let to it. Could someone please explain to me how one could possibly use a knife to pry out a bolt?

If the head of the bolt was sunken into the wood (or countersunk full depth) he may have been trying to chisel in to ge the tip of the knife under the head of the bolt to start it out.
That said, I own a catspaw and a restoration bar both of which are designed to do this much better, although possibly they might do more damage to the wood than his method -- but even then, a 3/8" chisel would have worked better than a knife....

 

[GWashington1732]

What kind of bolt was it? Was it like a lag bolt or more like a nail type bolt?

 

[Kaizen1]

i've pried out many nails with my zt100...no damage, no problem...why do i do it? because at those times i had no choice.

I'm guessing that the "many nails" were pried on the same day(?). If you continually came across a situation where prying was needed, I would think you would've eventually bought a cheap pry bar instead.

 

[Kaizen1]

Even though I really like my hard use knives, I don't really get the idea of prying with blades. Prying with my Leatherman Wave is okay in my book, just not the blade. Maybe for some unknown random, urgent and important task, whatever the hell that might be, but for situations where I know I'd come across some prying jobs, it seems much more reasonable to just get a cheap pry bar.

 

[Folderguy]

He obviously pried with the knife because he thought it was alright to do it.

If it was a 1/4" "bolt" that's one thing, but a 3/4" case hardened bolt counter sunk to a depth of 3/16" below the surface of that highly figured wood is another thing.

What were the specific circumstances around this mystery blade? And was it a high end filleting knife?

 

[zignal_zero]

page 3 and we still don't know what kind of knife it was? OP - you've already said the failure came from misuse, you won't be insulting the maker/manufacturer's work by giving us some information. it does help when we know what fails under what circumstances. you've already given us the circumstances, now please tell us the "what".

by the way - a bolt uses "inclined plane" which is considered one of the 3 simple machines whle prying uses a "lever" which is one of the other 2. it's kind of cool that there was a sort of force on force machine duel.

was it a Busse? Cold Steel? j/k

 

[MikeC]

No one ??

First , welcome to the Internet ,
second , prepare to be amazed .


1234,,,,,,

They say brevity is the soul of wit. That is classic I"m still laughing.

 

[sambo.]

Would it be harsh to say he deserves a broken knife?

nope.

fair comment i'd say.

 

[Folderguy]

page 3 and we still don't know what kind of knife it was? OP - you've already said the failure came from misuse, you won't be insulting the maker/manufacturer's work by giving us some information. it does help when we know what fails under what circumstances. you've already given us the circumstances, now please tell us the "what".

by the way - a bolt uses "inclined plane" which is considered one of the 3 simple machines whle prying uses a "lever" which is one of the other 2. it's kind of cool that there was a sort of force on force machine duel.

was it a Busse? Cold Steel? j/k

I didn't realize that Cold Steel has honest to goodness $300 knives. Well, maybe...

But Busse? Of course... I bet this mystery knife was something less than robust...

I can think of more than a few, but I'd love to know "the rest of the story"...