Crucible Industries Update

David Nowlin said:
Any chance Crucible will recover as this tariff thing and reorganized trade brings more manufacturing ie increased steel manufacturing here in the U.S.A.
Just wondering.
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Crucible Industries LLC is gone.

Everything was sold off in the bankruptcy auction back in February 2025.

So, they will not recover because they are gone.

The good news out of this tragedy is that Niagara Specialty Metals, which is a rolling mill and was the main distributor of these Crucible PM steels we enjoy has been leading the charge to keep the popular knife steels we enjoy available through other steel mills like Erasteel, Carpenter etc.

NSM is even leading the development of a new innovative steel designed by Dr Larrin Thomas. So, progress is still marching forward despite the circumstances.

You can read more details about what's happened and happening in some of the posts in this thread to get up to speed.

However, everyone is still waiting for the smoke to clear to see what the overall new order of things is going to be in the end.

Standby.
 
DeadboxHero said:
Crucible Industries LLC is gone.

Everything was sold off in the bankruptcy auction back in February 2025.

So, they will not recover because they are gone.

The good news out of this tragedy is that Niagara Specialty Metals, which is a rolling mill and was the main distributor of these Crucible PM steels we enjoy has been leading the charge to keep the popular knife steels we enjoy available through other steel mills like Erasteel, Carpenter etc.

NSM is even leading the development of a new innovative steel designed by Dr Larrin Thomas. So, progress is still marching forward despite the circumstances.

You can read more details about what's happened and happening in some of the posts in this thread to get up to speed.

However, everyone is still waiting for the smoke to clear to see what the overall new order of things is going to be in the end.

Standby.
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Curious to see that new steel they are developing. Should be interesting!
 
Do you DeadboxHero DeadboxHero know anything about the potential for companies like Griggs, SB, Hudson, TSS of Cali, Stanford, Bohler USA. etc have any potential for knife specific steels to be produced in the future? Or if they even have any desire/capability to do so...
 
Dagoth_Blur said:
Do you DeadboxHero DeadboxHero know anything about the potential for companies like Griggs, SB, Hudson, TSS of Cali, Stanford, Bohler USA. etc have any potential for knife specific steels to be produced in the future? Or if they even have any desire/capability to do so...
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Those companies are all suppliers. Their ability to have steels produced still relies on other companies. That includes Bohler USA which is a distribution arm of Bohler (and the parent company voestalpine).
 
Maximumbob54 said:
From Wiki:

"As of 2022, major steel-makers in the United States included Cleveland-Cliffs, Carpenter Technology, Commercial Metals Company, Nucor, Steel Dynamics, and U.S. Steel."

Carpenter is the only one that jumps out at me as knife steels. I'd love to be wrong and they all do.
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“Major steel maker” isn’t actually what we are looking for. Tool steel companies are more niche and work in smaller volumes with different equipment designed for a different type of steel.
 
Maximumbob54 said:
From a google search: "American tool steel manufacturers"

Tremblay Tool Steels, LLC, Pennsylvania Steel Company, Hudson Tool Steel Corporation, A1 Alloys, Inc, All Metal Sales Inc., Alloy Tool Steel Inc, Fay Industries, Metal suppliers online, Ravi Steel Co, Alloys Unlimited And Processing, Llc, Continental Steel & Tube Co, and CTS industrial supply
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Unfortunately a Google search won’t help us much for restarting PM tool steel manufacturing in the US.
 
(A post or two have been moved offline)

Folks, if it's not painfully clear at this point, Larrin, NSM, Matt Gregory, Shawn Houston and company are completely aware of which steel companies produce what and who can produce the niche products they are working with.

Lists of steel manufacturers from Wikipedia do not increase the knowledge being shared here. This is about Crucible, NSM, the successors to Crucible and the steel that satisfies the requirements of those parties.

Let's please not take this discussion down avenues which are not relevant to this particular matter.
 
DeadboxHero said:
Erasteel owns the Crucible Industries LLC IP.
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nsm said:
A new Era in MagnaCut. Rolled our first billets of MagnaCut from Erasteel today. Worked out great!! More updates coming soon.
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There have been questions and concerns about possible disparities in the quality of new materials, with the death of Crucible. One important point that I feel is worth mentioning here is that Bob Skibitski, Crucible’s Senior Product Metallurgist, was hired by EraSteel, and is currently involved in the production and processing of these alloys. We’re in good hands, here. If there’s anyone qualified to get these materials up to snuff, it’s Bob.


DeadboxHero said:
The good news out of this tragedy is that Niagara Specialty Metals, which is a rolling mill and was the main distributor of these Crucible PM steels we enjoy has been leading the charge to keep the popular knife steels we enjoy available through other steel mills like Erasteel, Carpenter etc.

NSM is even leading the development of a new innovative steel designed by Dr Larrin Thomas.
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This can’t be stressed enough - without the tireless efforts and negotiations of Bob Shabala and his team, and the capabilities of the crew at Niagara Specialty Metals, the collapse of Crucible would have had a catastrophic impact on the knife world. Rather than feeling shockwaves from the demise of Crucible, through their work alone will the knife world merely feel ripples of their passing. In fact, I’m guessing that most won’t notice at all, as they’ve almost worked miracles to maintain business as usual.

I still feel sick at the loss of jobs for the folks of Crucible in Syracuse, and I’m hoping they all find good places to land.
 
We now have exclusive access to buying slabs of S30V, S35VN, S45VN and MagnaCut—as well as hard-to-find steels like CTS XHP. This will all be hot rolled to sheet in our Akron NY facility. We also ordered an ESR version of 154CM which should be a major improvement on the original air melt version. (I'm counting on Larrin to eloquently explain the benefits of ESR melting).

We appreciate everyone's patience as we work our way through this transition. More info coming soon
 
nsm said:
We now have exclusive access to buying slabs of S30V, S35VN, S45VN and MagnaCut—as well as hard-to-find steels like CTS XHP. This will all be hot rolled to sheet in our Akron NY facility. We also ordered an ESR version of 154CM which should be a major improvement on the original air melt version. (I'm counting on Larrin to eloquently explain the benefits of ESR melting).

We appreciate everyone's patience as we work our way through this transition. More info coming soon
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Thank you Niagara Specialty Metals for all your hard work!
 
So from what I gathered:
CPM Steels from S30V, S35VN, S45VN, 3V... all the way to CruWear and MagnaCut will continue to be available, under both, original names, and new names - just there will be price increases?
 
Delta-v said:
Thanks for all the updates and everything you're doing to ensure continuity, NSM. Can you speak to what future availability might look like for any other steels like M4, 3V, Cruwear and S90V?
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3V will come from Erasteel and the name will remain the same. M4, Cruwear and S90V can come from Carpenter Technology and Erasteel. The names will change since they are dual sourced. M4 PM has been the standard name outside of the cutlery world so that's what we'll be going with once we run out of CPM M4. NSM Wear and NSM 90 for the other two?? Let us know what you think.

Right now, our focus is on making sure the steel is available and high quality. As the supply stabilizes and we get a better sense of long-term costs, we’ll do everything we can to keep pricing competitive.
 
nsm said:
The names will change since they are dual sourced. M4 PM has been the standard name outside of the cutlery world so that's what we'll be going with once we run out of CPM M4. NSM Wear and NSM 90 for the other two?? Let us know what you think.
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In terms of new naming, would it be possible to simply replace "CPM" with "NSM" in the names? Most AFI's know the CPM naming convention, and this change would be easy to understand and correlate between old and new, for end users and everyone else in the industry.

For instance,
- CPM-Cruwear -> NSM-Cruwear
- CPM-S90V -> NSM-S90V

Or would this approach be considered to be too similar to the original registered names and break some law?
 
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