CS Recon Scout Fails Miserably

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topspeclt said:
Gosh, I hope I don't grow old because I wouldn't want my reading skills to suffer.
I'll say it again! I said 'trend' and I clarified what I meant in a following post in response to another individual who also made the same mistkae as yourself.

Too much fluoride?
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"How many actually COLLECT vs, ACTUALLY USE? I'm afraid the answer to that would probably make me never came back to this forum again"

This is a knife forum for collectors and users, and all you do is throw insults. Why don't you take your own advice troll.
 
As much as I dislike the image that I associate with Cold Steel, I have to suggest that perhaps a smarter individual would have used an axe instead.
 
SkinnyJoe said:
As much as I dislike the image that I associate with Cold Steel, I have to suggest that perhaps a smarter individual would have used an axe instead.
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There will always be those who regard batoning as unreasonable -- and those who prefer Pepsi over Coke.
 
I bought a CS RS back in the mid 90's and bought it based mostly on their hype about it being the toughest strongest survival knife made. I bought it,took it home and unboxed it and was extremely disappointed.
The grinds were way off and it was dull as a brick. I took it back to where I bought it and explained to their "knife expert" salesman that I wanted a replacement blade or a refund.
They had six other RS's in stock and I didn't find a decent one until I opened the sixth box.It too was as sharp as a brick but at least it was straight.
CS quality control sucks and although I've chopped a lot with it I've never really trusted it as my primary long blade.I've read too many bad things about these knives-blade breakages,Kraton handles falling off or dissolving to ever trust my life to one.:thumbdn:YMMV
This was a very interesting and educational thread and reaffirms a couple of things to myself.
Never be afraid to buy the best-you'll never be disappointed with quality.That's why I'm a loyal Busse customer-world class quality products and a no BS warranty.:thumbup:
Redundancy-I never go into the wilderness without a large fixed blade,a small fixed blade and a multitool.
Test your equipment so you know what they're capable off.:)
 
I'm all for hard-use knives and such, but isn't this a perfect example why you should use the right tool for the job?

I mean really, are any knives designed and marketed as replacing an axe? I'm pretty sure that, while CS has some outrageous marketing/abuse videos, they do not explicitly market any of their blades as replacing an axe, a screwdriver, a hammer, etc.


That said, I'm glad I have a Strider as my primary survival blade.....along with a compact saw for wood. ;)


Also, one incident is not sufficient to cast doubt on all the rest of Cold Steel's products.

The very first Glock I ever shot had the frame rails snap clean off. I don't know for certain, but it was probably one of the defective/recalled models.

However, I own several Glocks today, and they've all been flawless.

This only goes to prove that two is one and one is none. i.e.; have a backup or three.
 
drjones said:
I'm all for hard-use knives and such, but isn't this a perfect example why you should use the right tool for the job?

I mean really, are any knives designed and marketed as replacing an axe? I'm pretty sure that, while CS has some outrageous marketing/abuse videos, they do not explicitly market any of their blades as replacing an axe, a screwdriver, a hammer, etc.
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dr, you might benefit from reading the posts in this thread. You're sorta' coming in after the conversation.

All leading authorities I can locate in the U.S. and Europe regard batoning as typical, routine work for a fixed-blade knife. That includes those who make the knives. Some fixed-blades are more suitable - those with a single edge. They have done it, 1000's have done it -- Hell, I have done it as recently as yesterday -- with 5/16" thick knives, 1/16" knives and everything in between, and the knife looked unchanged afterwards (Yesterday it was a 1/8" thick Breeden in 1095.). No big deal.

One maker has identified a technique, rocking the handle down and hitting the tip, thus creating a fulcrum near the handle and leverage (the length of the blade) as more likely to produce failure when batoning, especially in knives with a blade/tang shoulder. I'll bet you can find techniques more likely to damage a knife in non-batoning tasks. I have seen poor technique break the handles on more axes than I can recall - usually in the zone right under the blade. HOLY MISSHIT!!! :eek:

In any case, if you have a knife and do not have an axe, chain saw, or maul, but still need to get down to interior wood -- or to make a hearth board for a bow and drill set, it might be nice to know about this commonly-taught survival technique -- and to practice it some.

As for the math :D, one is one and two is two. Moreover, the knife you have "with you" is not necessarily the "best" (or even a good) survival knife - it's just the knife you have to survive with.
 
YESSS look what we have not seen in a while :thumbup:
Do you know what I've heard ? If this tread does not raise every year or so....The building that houses the servers of blade forum will actually collapse and no plant life can grow for a decade in the soil and birds will fly around it,not over it. :eek:
It true, that's why blade forum sometimes is down for just a little time, to give a taste of what is to come, if we don't bump this tread every so often.
 
Lol, I love this old thread. I like the CS Recon Scout, I just won't buy a knife with 5 year warranty. Busse and kin, and many others have better warranties imho.
 
Teague said:
Don't you think it's time to start recommending a RAT 6 instead of the CS?
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You think.... ;)

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"Don't you think it's time to start recommending a RAT 6 instead of the CS?" -Teague

Ankerson said:
You think.... ;)

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In all fairness, that was an Ontario RAT-7 in D2. Not a RAT Cutlery RC-6 in 1095.

I dont beleive that Ontario makes a RAT-6. I may have missed it.
 
Ankerson said:
You think.... ;)

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Dang!

It looks like Busse, ScrapYard, Cold Steel 1055 or maybe the Cold Steel Bushman is the way to go from what I've seen so far.
 
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