Custom Knife Factory - Anton Malyshev Elf

Hopefully everyone buying these are aware that they are all Machined in China and are supposedly assembled in Russia. They even have a proprietary Kevin John model only sold in there stores. They are not bad knives but they are not made in Russia and that is the reason for the pricing. Even the decepticon is all Chinese parts. I personally have no problem with that but people should know how and where there stuff is made.

Are you talking about that one with the tritium inserts? Please tell me no, because I just ordered one of those along with a "Morrf"... Usually I stay away from Chinese stuff, but I'm getting sick of all these threads about these new Chinese knife manufacturers and how well the knives are designed; I just had to try a couple out.

If true, I had no idea the tritium insert one was a "Kevin John" made knife, I assumed it was made by CKF. I guess a plus side is, is that people say the "Kevin John" clones are very well made, almost identical to the originals. It just annoys me because that is something I would have definately avoided.

I think it's too late for me to cancel my order, and shipping the knives back to Russia doesn't sit well with me. This sucks, but maybe I'm just overthinking this.
 
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Are you talking about that one with the tritium inserts? Please tell me no, because I just ordered one of those along with a "Morrf"... Usually I stay away from Chinese stuff, but I'm getting sick of all these threads about these new Chinese knife manufacturers and how well the knives are designed; I just had to try a couple out.

If true, I had no idea the tritium insert one was a "Kevin John" made knife, I assumed it was made by CKF. I guess a plus side is, is that people say the "Kevin John" clones are very well made, almost identical to the originals. It just annoys me because that is something I would have definately avoided.

I think it's too late for me to cancel my order, and shipping the knives back to Russia doesn't sit well with me. This sucks, but maybe I'm just overthinking this.


Yes the tritium thumbstud and clip knife is a kevin john prduced knife. They were first sold as venom II kevin john knives. The new black blade version has the k. John markings removed. The also raised the price on them recently. They were for sale for about a week on a popular chinese site but ckf worked out a deal for exclusivity. I tried to get one from them but they were jacking the price on me, qouted me and then wouldnt honor it so i said forget it. Let me know if you dont want yours. But seeing all cfk knives are chinese machined i would assume k. John makes those as well.
 
Yes the tritium thumbstud and clip knife is a kevin john prduced knife. They were first sold as venom II kevin john knives. The new black blade version has the k. John markings removed. The also raised the price on them recently. They were for sale for about a week on a popular chinese site but ckf worked out a deal for exclusivity.

Ok, I'm really pissed now. Honestly, I wish I never even read that and just ignorantly enjoyed these knives for what they are. I don't know what I'll do if I get stuck with these, maybe they'll be good knives, who knows, but I won't be able to get the name "Kevin John" out of my head. I just sent an email requesting to cancel my order, I'm crossing my fingers that it's not too late.
 
Ok, I'm really pissed now. Honestly, I wish I never even read that and just ignorantly enjoyed these knives for what they are. I don't know what I'll do if I get stuck with these, maybe they'll be good knives, who knows, but I won't be able to get the name "Kevin John" out of my head. I just sent an email requesting to cancel my order, I'm crossing my fingers that it's not too late.


Sorry i was the bearer of the bad news. If you are stuck with it send me an email.
 
It's well known that Custom Knife Factory uses someone in China to do CNC work. Regardless of which, the quality is there and pricing is fair. My Elf was absolutely perfect, and I now have the Morff model on preorder.
 
Hopefully everyone buying these are aware that they are all Machined in China and are supposedly assembled in Russia. They even have a proprietary Kevin John model only sold in there stores. They are not bad knives but they are not made in Russia and that is the reason for the pricing. Even the decepticon is all Chinese parts. I personally have no problem with that but people should know how and where there stuff is made.

KnifeCenter did describe it: "Custom Knife Factory has a CNC machine shop in China that does some of the leg work but all the hand fit and finishing is done in house in their Moscow shop. They use top of the line materials made in the USA and designs from some of the most talented knife designers in Russia."
 
This is such a let down.
It's like spending a million dollars on a Bugatti, only to find out it's made by VW:(

Maybe I'll give these a try, they're just knives after all. Like I said, maybe I'm overthinking it. I should try to get over "country of origin" considering my car is foreign, my iPad was made in China, my phone was made in China, and the fact that I like sushi:p

We'll see...
I'm gonna put some good thought into it...
 
Hey thats all good, I just am seeing posts where people are saying "made in russia" and I just want people to know what they are getting. I think its pretty well known that Im pretty much a china fanboy. I just want people to know exactly what they are buying. I would agree that the quality and price are very good.

This is such a let down.
It's like spending a million dollars on a Bugatti, only to find out it's made by VW:(

Maybe I'll give these a try, they're just knives after all. Like I said, maybe I'm overthinking it. I should try to get over "country of origin" considering my car is foreign, my iPad was made in China, my phone was made in China, and the fact that I like sushi:p

We'll see...
I'm gonna put some good thought into it...

if you need a good knife you wont be let down, I promise. If you just cant get past where something is made? Let the USA sourced S35VN sooth your aching heart man. I think you should be excited. You are buying history. Some of the first truly high quality knives to come from china. I think that is exciting. And the prices will only be this good for so long.
 
if you need a good knife you wont be let down, I promise. If you just cant get past where something is made? Let the USA sourced S35VN sooth your aching heart man. I think you should be excited. You are buying history. Some of the first truly high quality knives to come from china. I think that is exciting. And the prices will only be this good for so long.

Truly, the only reason I look down on "country of origin", is due to all the negative vibes people give off when it comes to Chinese knives. Stupid, I know. I can say that I've seen my fair share of "cheap Chinese knives", but these knives fall into the $30 and under category. Afterall, I did order a couple Kizer's a while ago and I feel they were worth what was paid.

What the hell, maybe I'll just order these:rolleyes:
I'm buying Chinese knives, not black market organs; that feeling of guilt will subside when I fondle my CRK's:D

The more I think about it, the more silly it sounds to me...
 
I own 3 knives from CKF, A Sukhoi, a Deception-1 and a Konygin Maxi. I like the knives but have had nothing but problems with CKF unfortunately. Far too many knives come from them with damage, dings, ripped up knife pouches, etc. I've experienced a problem each time I've bought their products. I wrote them, very nicely, about these issues. At first Mikhail seemed concerned and willing to make things right. Ultimately, when I decided to try them one final time, I placed an order and the next day Mikhail (Mike, as he is also known) simply cancelled my order and refused it under the excuse that obviously it is dangerous and too costly to ship to me in California (for their $60 charge) as the problems must happen in shipping, blaming all on USPS or my post office, I guess. Funny, no damage to the outside of the shipment, only damage was to product inside of their packing materials. Nothing but lame, implausible excuses, problems, and turning the blame on the customer. I spent a lot of money on their products and only wrote them about real problems with the condition of the knives I received from them, not nit picky little things either. End result, rudeness from them and blaming the customer in words and refusing any more business FROM the customer wronged by THEM. Lunacy! They lost a repeat, high value customer with legitimate issues about their sloppiness, careless handling of their knives and their unprofessionalism. A really idiotic way for them to handle a once supportive customer. CKF buyers beware. Oh, by the way, on their $1070 Deception 1, they issue EVERY SINGLE COA with the number "1 of 300" on it. I mentioned how deceptive that was to a collector/buyer too. Got lame excuses, an admission of guilt, an obviously fake apology and then they cut off my ability (and certainly my desire) to ever order from them again. Too many great knives to buy elsewhere to put up with that kind of customer abuse, especially when taking a leap of faith, pre-paying them and trusting them to "deliver" like professional knife makers, all the way from Russia. Never again! Oh, they'll take the money for sure. Their economy is tanking BIG TIME. You'd think they value the American collector's business. There is huge anti-Americanism in Russia these days, and increasingly so. I have to wonder if they are not just laughing at us, adjusting upwards their prices (especially Shirogorovs and CKF's higher end mid techs & customs) for the American market. We send them our dollars...as they laugh all the way to the Ruble bank and send us often damaged goods. I wonder if the local, Russian clients (or other non-Americans) get the knives without imperfections on them. Look carefully at the condition of your knife from CKF. Is it perfect as a brand new knife should be from the maker, or dinged, or scratched or damaged in some way or worse. Hopefully you got a new knife in new condition. They are 0 for 3 with me. I am done with them. CKF, enough is enough. You don't appreciate my business, you LOSE my business. -- PS. Collectors, God forbid one of these knives ever requires repair. Think about it.
 
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Edited because I dont feel my comments were fair and too many assumptions.
 
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I think with a lot of these newer companies, specially the overseas ones, it's prudent to wait and buy it from a reputable U.S. dealer like BladeHQ, KnifeWorks, KnifeCenter, etc. so that you can return them. That's what I did with the CKF Elf, Kizer and most of my Reate (the exception was Hills).
 
Well, I got confirmation that my order was canceled and that my money was being refunded. I bought 2 knives for a total of $450 plus $35 dollars shipping; $485 all together. I was sent an email requesting that I pay them the full amount through PayPal and then they will ship the knives.

I paid the full amount, then requested to cancel my order for refund shortly after. I was sent an email that I was refunded only $463.36. Not once was it mentioned that there was a "sellers fee" of $21.64 until after I sent my payment. I emailed Michael right away about this bogus fee, and he ignored me. I emailed him today and threatened that if he dosent refund me, I will open a dispute for bogus pricing, and that it is wrong to not mention this fee before hand.

Right after I sent that email, he replied instantly with a refund. Seems kinda sketchy to me, but after all that, I'm staying FAR away from this guy and his so called "company"...

All of this just gave me one more reason to keep away from that Chinese crap...
 
Well, I got confirmation that my order was canceled and that my money was being refunded. I bought 2 knives for a total of $450 plus $35 dollars shipping; $485 all together. I was sent an email requesting that I pay them the full amount through PayPal and then they will ship the knives.

I paid the full amount, then requested to cancel my order for refund shortly after. I was sent an email that I was refunded only $463.36. Not once was it mentioned that there was a "sellers fee" of $21.64 until after I sent my payment. I emailed Michael right away about this bogus fee, and he ignored me. I emailed him today and threatened that if he dosent refund me, I will open a dispute for bogus pricing, and that it is wrong to not mention this fee before hand.

Right after I sent that email, he replied instantly with a refund. Seems kinda sketchy to me, but after all that, I'm staying FAR away from this guy and his so called "company"...

All of this just gave me one more reason to keep away from that Chinese crap...


Well to be fair I think the quality of these products in most cases is excellent.

EDITED: TO much emotion not enough facts.
 
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Well to be fair I think the quality of these products in most cases is excellent. But I agree wholeheartedly that they have a lot to learn the in the customer service department. The only people who I ever hear of having good experiences with them are those who simply raise their hand with money in it. Anyone who dares question anything? Not so much. Im glad you were able to get your money back though before you got stuck with something you didnt want.

In not doubting the quality, it's the overall experience that draws me to a knife. That's why I like CRK so much, they make great knives, have great service, have a great reputation, they give other makers credit for implementing their designs into their own knives, and they stand by their products 110%. To me, that makes a knife worth buying. Anything that falls short in those areas qualifies as a "problem" with the knife/company IMO.

The knife was probably built like a $280 folder, no doubt. But the customer service is worthless, and their reputation isn't earned yet. And what about warranty? And the fact that they are associated with K. John? How about the fact that they tried to scam me for $21? All this adds up to a cheap Chinese knife IMO. The build quality is just lipstick on a pig...
 
I hope more people chime in on this topic. I believe that bringing these issues out into the light of day, and not just private, personal aggravation, but SHOWING how many of us ...have been wronged in the same ways, by the same company...is one of the best and most important things we knife lovers/collectors can do...for our fellow knife lovers/collectors...and to stop companies from taking advantage of us, one victim at a time, behind the cloak of privacy.
 
I've bought multiple from them, had zero problems, and they're now also available from KnifeCenter and supposedly soon BladeHQ and GPKnives as well, if you're worried about importing or returning or paying for shipping or whatever. After Scrim complained to them about the numbering on the Decepticons, they changed the listing and added a note about it and also changed it on future ones so it lists the actual number, the ones on the Morrf are fine (see the pic on Instagram here http://instagram.com/p/xO3-8fs6NT/ ). They also added a note to the Daboia saying it's from China and it's also currently on sale for $170 AND they lowered their shipping from $60 to $35. I'm incredibly happy with them and plan on buying their future knives. Perhaps you guys should relax, maybe this is why they hate Americans lol.
 
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Glad you had a decent experience with them but far too many don't. Consider yourself lucky your experience(s) went well. The PROBLEM that has to be dealt with is all of the transactions with them that DON'T go well for far too many customers (or now Ex-customers) of theirs. You'd feel very differently as soon as things unexpectedly go south for YOU in a transaction with them, which I of course hope never happens for you...but based on experience, and the experiences of others, if you keep dealing with them, it is almost inevitable, eventually, unfortunately. I was fine with them until there were problems, then they revealed the way they handle business and customers when there is a problem. That's when you find out what kind of company you are really dealing with. See some earlier posts in this thread. No one expected problems, until there were problems...to discuss with CKF. Then prepaying customers learned the sad truth, but not until something went wrong. They definitely prefer the guy that will order, pay up, keep their mouth shut and just order again. But how they handle PROBLEMS is what separates the men from the boys, in business.
 
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The same Chinese factory that manufactures the Custom Knife Factory knives now has the Duboia. Titanium frame lock with carbon fiber on the non-lock side. They have Tritium glow-in-the-dark cones in the thumbstud and pocket clip so you can find it in the dark, no matter which side is facing up. Comes in black or satin blade.

Available from KnifeCenter for $240.

Specifications

  • Blade Length: 3.875" (98 mm)
  • Blade Steel: S35VN Stainless Steel
  • Overall Length: 8.375" (213 mm)
  • Closed Length: 4.5" (114 mm)
  • Handle Material: Carbon Fiber Face Scale with Titanium Liner and Frame Lock
  • Weight: 4.9 oz. (139 g)
  • Made in China

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