Customs Says "NO EXTENSION!" - They Want Your Pocket Knives NOW!

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p_mcmanis said:
like I said it doesnt matter who you are writing too, you should be even and nonpartisan. you could be writing to someone totally off the deep end (and a few of them exist in the house) and you should still keep it non partisan becuase its a non partisan issue. ok, if mitch mcconenell goes up and starts talking about how his constituents feel this is a gun grab weve lost. thats it, the end.

ok my form letter to marsha blackburn who has the same constituent base as mcconnell for the most part will not contain any of that language, because I would rather her not say anything than play the paranoi game.
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I edited my post while you were responding. Don't know if that would matter, but I added a comment on your comment about the slippery slope.

Partisan is a relative thing, and you certainly can choose whatever wording suits your thoughts. I didn't mean to be partisan, rather I was justexpressing an opinion. Kentucky is a heavily (5:1) Democratic state, yet Republican Mitch McConnell was sent to Washington by a majority of the voters. Those Democratic voters all feel the same way about laws, rulings and restricting freedoms that their heavily outnumbered Republican neighbors do. It ain't a partisan thing, it's a southern thing!

Nonetheless, I won't engage in a debate about it because Bastid is right about this not being the place to debate politics. We stand together on this issue.
 
its too bad you couldnt somehow present to congress in person the everyday usage of these knives,as used in the workplace,in the woods,you couldnt even get the knife in the building for a presentation, unless a rubber mock up was made.i would love to have a passaround to members of congress of a kershaw scallion,or some kind of high end custom art knife,to show a different side of knives. i dont think they would find it offensive...
 
Just wanted to note that I received an Email this morning from the NRA-ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) entitled;

If Knives Are Outlawed…Customs And Border Protection Proposal Could Ban Many Pocketknives​

Here is the link to their story.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=4972

The "word" is spreading! Keep it up. Pound the media with Emails!!! I've YET to see anything in the MSM about this. Has anyone seen anything from them??????

Good on 'ye folks!!
 
realitycheck said:
Oh okay. Well when is this supposed to be reinterpreted? When will we know if they did this or not?
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Someone please correct me if I am off base with this answer... but this law has ALREADY BEEN reinterpreted. They have given the public 30 days to comment on that "reinterpretation", so it seems to me, that it would?, could?, become effective at the end of that 30 day period.

It's a "done deal" unless someone (Congress) tells them they CAN'T continue with this new reinterpretation.
 
We have no chance. We're not a big enough group like the gun people are. They are gonna screw this down hard.

I would pretty much bet a paycheck on the fact that it's a done deal.

As much as that sucks...
 
David Lowry said:
We have no chance. We're not a big enough group like the gun people are. They are gonna screw this down hard.

I would pretty much bet a paycheck on the fact that it's a done deal.

As much as that sucks...
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Thank you Mr. Negativity
 
I believe the scheduled implementation date, as per CBP documents is July 21, 2009. This information is unofficial and from a customs clerk. OldDude1
 
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So one week from today. Will there be a public announcement of this implementation? Or non-implementation?
Thanks for your help so far guys.
 
my father sent me an email about this cause he saw it so i looked at it all and just wrote my senators and rep here in VA (Webb knows whats what so if any one would do anything i think he would)

as to all the people trying to say this is the first step to restricting this that or the other or that the "crazy dems" are going to ruin the country please smack your self and wake up. this is not congress or the president pushing this, it is a department in the government that has decided to make something illegal because they think it is causing crime and issues. frankly those in congress that support restricting gun and other rights know that it is not the time or place to even bring it up with all the other issues going on in our country and that it is just going to piss to many people off. i think if this comes before congress it will not make it past as long as there is a truthful explanation of what it is restricting.

-matt
 
D.L. might be right tho. The LAW in question is ALREADY in place. This is just a "NEW INTERPETATION". Getting the Fed Gov to overturn or repeal it is hopeless IMHO.(We got terror pukes hiding in every country in the world,nut jobs playing with nukes,economy in the crapper,automakers goin belly up,huge insurance companys and banks going bankrupt ect,ect ECT!) The only hope is to get a high court to issue a stay or injunction or to declare the "NEW INTERPETATION" beyond the scope or spirit of the law. To accomplish that will require the big guns like NRA. ASHFS. BASS. and every knife manufacturer/importer to pool their resources and time into one massive hammerblow at the Fed court level.
 
i saw this via NRA so i would think that means the NRA is at least going to make a statement.

with it being an interpretation i highly doubt congress will allow it on the pure base that the court is the one that interprets the law

-matt
 
SR_matt said:
as to all the people trying to say this is the first step to restricting this that or the other or that the "crazy dems" are going to ruin the country please smack your self and wake up.
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Matt - Isn't this a perfect example of exactly that?? "the first step to restricting this that or the other"????

Isn't this EXACTLY a first step in restricting knives previously NOT restricted?? (I'm not sure which a knife is... a "this", or a "that" or an "other", but knives are DEFINITELY being restricted by this.) "Smack yourself" indeed.

SR_matt said:
this is not congress or the president pushing this, it is a department in the government that has decided to make something illegal because they think it is causing crime and issues.
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Who does this "department in the government" work for and answer to? Answer: Janet Napolitano (who was appointed by the President). Do you actually think that Napolitano (or the President) is oblivious to this change and doesn't know it's happening??

SR_matt said:
frankly those in congress that support restricting gun and other rights know that it is not the time or place to even bring it up with all the other issues going on in our country and that it is just going to piss to many people off.
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Yes, they (in Congress) do know that this isn't the time for a "congressional" restriction on guns and other rights. That's why this isn't being done by Congress, but instead being done at a lower level which doesn't require any congressional approval or input. If the President tells Napolitano to tell the Customs folks to do this... it's done, and Congress can say "It wasn't US who did this!!!" (but of course we do know that it is within their power to stop it).

SR_matt said:
i think if this comes before congress it will not make it past as long as there is a truthful explanation of what it is restricting.

-matt
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And THERE is the big "if" matt.... "IF" it comes before Congress.... IF.

It wasn't necessary for it to go to Congress in the first place... It wasn't GOING to go to congress at all... and there would be NO TALK about it going to Congress NOW if it were not for all of "us" who are demanding that it DOES go before Congress.

I'm sorry, but the solution to this problem needs to be non-partisan in nature. If you enjoy knives, I don't care if you are "right", "left", "ultra-right/left", "conservative", "liberal", or a Democrat or a Republican... it doesn't matter your political "bent"... they are making this change against ALL of our wishes. Our efforts to FIX the problem need to be non-partisan (Join me won't you? C'mon over to my side please?).

Again, the SOLUTION to this problem needs to be non-partisan... but please DON'T try to tell me that the problem ITSELF wasn't created entirely on one side of the aisle. The problem exists at all, completely because of "partisan" politics in the first place (and the "crazy" Republicans had nothing to do with it).

I'm tired of "dancing" around the BIG, HUGE, BLUE DONKEY in the room.:mad:
 
timcsaw said:
Matt - Isn't this a perfect example of exactly that?? "the first step to restricting this that or the other"????

Isn't this EXACTLY a first step in restricting knives previously NOT restricted?? (I'm not sure which a knife is... a "this", or a "that" or an "other", but knives are DEFINITELY being restricted by this.) "Smack yourself" indeed.



Who does this "department in the government" work for and answer to? Answer: Janet Napolitano (who was appointed by the President). Do you actually think that Napolitano (or the President) is oblivious to this change and doesn't know it's happening??



Yes, they (in Congress) do know that this isn't the time for a "congressional" restriction on guns and other rights. That's why this isn't being done by Congress, but instead being done at a lower level which doesn't require any congressional approval or input. If the President tells Napolitano to tell the Customs folks to do this... it's done, and Congress can say "It wasn't US who did this!!!" (but of course we do know that it is within their power to stop it).



And THERE is the big "if" matt.... "IF" it comes before Congress.... IF.

It wasn't necessary for it to go to Congress in the first place... It wasn't GOING to go to congress at all... and there would be NO TALK about it going to Congress NOW if it were not for all of "us" who are demanding that it DOES go before Congress.

I'm sorry, but the solution to this problem needs to be non-partisan in nature. If you enjoy knives, I don't care if you are "right", "left", "ultra-right/left", "conservative", "liberal", or a Democrat or a Republican... it doesn't matter your political "bent"... they are making this change against ALL of our wishes. Our efforts to FIX the problem need to be non-partisan (Join me won't you? C'mon over to my side please?).

Again, the SOLUTION to this problem needs to be non-partisan... but please DON'T try to tell me that the problem ITSELF wasn't created entirely on one side of the aisle. The problem exists at all, completely because of "partisan" politics in the first place (and the "crazy" Republicans had nothing to do with it).

I'm tired of "dancing" around the BIG, HUGE, BLUE DONKEY in the room.:mad:
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first no its not an example of trying to restrict one thing to get something else restricted later, its some one trying to push a law past what it can do, the courts are the ones that can do this not a department

honestly yes i think the the pres and JN dont know whats going on because how many times do you even hear of knife crimes, you dont its gun crimes that are publicized

when it comes down to it, it doesnt matter if it comes before congress or any one else, CBP/"homeland security" has no right to interpret a law, only enforce, so even if this is put into practice, the second it is brought before a judge it will be tossed out

i agree 100% that a solution shouldnt matter on politics but i think its illogical to say that one side is pushing to ban knives

-matt
 
David Lowry said:
Funny how you come back just to get a word in. LOL.

You're a bit up tight bro.
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Funny how you continue to predict the future with regards to all of this. Fact is you don't know what you're talking about. You're not in the know about any of this David, and these "the sky is falling" posts concerning all of this is really unproductive. As I have said in threads similar to these, let's let the process play out and see what happens.

Oh and David, I'm not your bro.
 
SR_matt said:
first no its not an example of trying to restrict one thing to get something else restricted later, its some one trying to push a law past what it can do, the courts are the ones that can do this not a department

honestly yes i think the the pres and JN dont know whats going on because how many times do you even hear of knife crimes, you dont its gun crimes that are publicized

when it comes down to it, it doesnt matter if it comes before congress or any one else, CBP/"homeland security" has no right to interpret a law, only enforce, so even if this is put into practice, the second it is brought before a judge it will be tossed out

i agree 100% that a solution shouldnt matter on politics but i think its illogical to say that one side is pushing to ban knives

-matt
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So as to move forward to try to solve the problem together, I'll just say this; Lets work together and try to get what is done, undone.

We can come back afterwords and blame the Republican President Bush and his Republican appointed lackey for doing this to us in the first place (and if Congress doesn't intervene, and this decision stands then we can blame the Republican controlled Congress as well).:rolleyes:
 
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