Customs Says "NO EXTENSION!" - They Want Your Pocket Knives NOW!

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Reeek said:
I was thinking in bed last night and my last thought before slumber was why the governments are so focused on folders, regardless of how they are deployed/opened. I mean, if one carries a fixed blade, large or small, wouldn't just drawing it out of a sheath ready to go be faster than any auto, A/O or manual knife? For me, the convenience of a folder is the ability to "put it away" not how fast I can whip it out and use it as a make shift weapon. And yes, it may be shorter than many FB's. It seems that a well placed FB in a fast draw sheath in the pocket or on the side would negate the need to regulate a folder of any kind or why not go after FB's too.

What gives? Set me straight on why this isn't a valid argument . . .
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Never make the mistake of thinking there's any logic to this, or that logic and reason woudl prevail as an argument. There is none, any more than there was in the Federal Switch Blade Act originally. Logic and reason have nothing at all to do with it.
 
timcsaw said:
Sent letters via snail mail.
Sent Emails to back up the snail mail (except to the CBP the cowards).
Then I sent emails to every stinkin' national news media outlet I could find (probably about 35 emails or so).

I wonder if ANY news media organization will pick up the story (CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX, AP, Reuters, USA Today etc. etc. etc.)

Has ANYONE seen ANYTHING on ANY of the major news media outlets about this at all????
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As of yet, no. Eventually? Well, that depends on how much noise we can make. We shall see. This is only the start of what will likely be a very long fight. We have to both react NOW, in order to set the stage for further action later, and have the patience to understand that there will be lots more to do down the road. Thanks for your support and please spread the word.

While not exactly major networks, I will be Pete Ferrand's guest this afternoon at 3:00 PM CDT on NewsTalk 1400 WRJN in Racine, WI.

I will join Cam Edwards on Cam & Company tonight (11:40 EDT). Cam & Company can be heard live on www.NRANews.com and on Sirius Patriot Channel 144 and will be available on www.NRANews.com in their archive if that's a bit late for you tonight.

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Just emailed my representative and I have a letter ready for the customs dept. How aggresive should the letter be? "You want my knives, come and take them", or "please reconsider".


MOLON LABE!!
 
Reeek said:
I was thinking in bed last night and my last thought before slumber was why the governments are so focused on folders, regardless of how they are deployed/opened. I mean, if one carries a fixed blade, large or small, wouldn't just drawing it out of a sheath ready to go be faster than any auto, A/O or manual knife? For me, the convenience of a folder is the ability to "put it away" not how fast I can whip it out and use it as a make shift weapon. And yes, it may be shorter than many FB's. It seems that a well placed FB in a fast draw sheath in the pocket or on the side would negate the need to regulate a folder of any kind or why not go after FB's too.

What gives? Set me straight on why this isn't a valid argument . . .
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Fixed blades don't go "snap". The laws are not based on any logic. Perceptions and fears are driving the laws. People are afraid of knives that sanp open easily.
 
tidefan said:
Just emailed my representative and I have a letter ready for the customs dept. How aggresive should the letter be? "You want my knives, come and take them", or "please reconsider".


MOLON LABE!!
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JMO, but you don't want to come across as a nutcase. Form your argument in a succinct, clear, and reasoned fashion using factual evidence if you can. Point out logical fallacies in the bill and counterpoint using a sensible approach.


Yes, it's tempting to type up MOLON LABE and press send, but you'll come across as a militant fruitcake.


I work with TN politicians (local, county, state, and fed) on infrastructure projects. Most are fairly reasonable people (assuming you don't live on the west coast); all want to be re-elected regardless of geographic location. I can assure you that they're kept well-aware of topics/decisions that generate constituency interest. Their "handlers" file "pro" and "con" responses and provide a tally at the end of the day.
 
pvicenzi said:
Fixed blades don't go "snap". The laws are not based on any logic. Perceptions and fears are driving the laws. People are afraid of knives that sanp open easily.
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Will agree with that. A fixed blade may look more frightening, but a folder clicks open and can be easily concealed. Two things, if witnessed by the average person, would seem worse. All while both folders and FB share a very key characteristic, they're knives! Comes down to public perception of something than the actual threat of it.
 
wonder how long its going to take gun show vendors to capitalize on this... just like the "get them before obama does" signs at the gun tables... imagine a "get your one handed knives before customs does!" sign.... ;)

shade
 
will this affect those one handed thumb studed box cutter knives? i guess thats a future auto,too??
 
So how does all the Customs BS effect business? When the new guidelines/policies go into effect does this mean all inbound shipments will be impounded?
 
Bors said:
So how does all the Customs BS effect business? When the new guidelines/policies go into effect does this mean all inbound shipments will be impounded?
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Typically there's a 30-day response period after comments close and and then 90-day notice. Yes, they can impound any incoming shoipments after the 90-days.
 
Thanks Doug,

My letters to both California senator Feinstein and the US Customs dept. are now in the mail.

Encouraging to know the NRA has joined forces too...

Cheers,
Joe
 
Critter said:
Typically there's a 30-day response period after comments close and and then 90-day notice. Yes, they can impound any incoming shoipments after the 90-days.
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This then seems to have international impact. It would seem that by Customs reply that the paperwork is on the directors desk signed and dated waiting for the date to pass so the official notification can be sent out. in other words it sounds like they have already made the decision and are merely following formalities. Are US importers asking foreign suppliers to petition there government trade organizations to intern ask Washington what is this nonsense.
 
jkarp_53 said:
Thanks Doug,

My letters to both California senator Feinstein and the US Customs dept. are now in the mail.

Encouraging to know the NRA has joined forces too...

Cheers,
Joe
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Don't forget your Congressional District Representative along with Senator Boxer.
 
This needs to get covered in the media so that all Americans will know about it. Most regular folks have pocket knives that might be affected. Can someone at the Forum get accurate info to:
1. Mark Levin
2. Rush Limbaugh
3. Sean Hannity
 
dan oliver said:
This needs to get covered in the media so that all Americans will know about it. Most regular folks have pocket knives that might be affected. Can someone at the Forum get accurate info to:
1. Mark Levin
2. Rush Limbaugh
3. Sean Hannity
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how about no? this isnt a party issue and I dont want to be represented by this group of paranoid racists. If you want to get someone conservative in on it how about shephard smith? I wouldnt want keith olbermaan or rachel maddow in on it either since this is a serious, non partisan issue. Extremists joining your cause almost always has the opposite of intended effect.

Also I just want to point out that if any of you are including words like "socialism" or "communism" or the n word or anything of the like in your letters you are hurting and you should stop.

I said before if it comes down to it we will have to give up our knives. I know it sucks, but we cant always have what we want. Our primary concerns should be getting letters out to try and delay customs action and trying to educate people that knives are tools and not weapons and that includes one handed and assisted opening knives.
 
Quote; (if it comes down to it we will have to give up our knives.) my neighbor followed the rules of the govt 70 years ago & wound up in a concentration camp,one of the last survivors still alive today. so what do i do with my 3 brian tighe customs,my 5 crawford customs,my DDR madd maxx,+ all my production knives,to name a few,just scrap a few thousand dollars in knives ? i guess ill just clip them to the inside of my pants. tried it today, works great,just cant get to it as fast. i have never been questioned in 30 years when a knife was on a belt or in my pocket with a mirror finished clip,so in the front pants ill get another 30 years of carry........
 
dan oliver said:
This needs to get covered in the media so that all Americans will know about it. Most regular folks have pocket knives that might be affected. Can someone at the Forum get accurate info to:
1. Mark Levin
2. Rush Limbaugh
3. Sean Hannity
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But however you feel about Alex Jones at Infowars at least he mentioned it today on air and said he wants to get somebody from knife rights on as a guest...
ivan
 
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