dan prentice

The name someone uses on here is irrelevant, as long as folks can search in GB&U and see what they have DONE UNDER that name.

Another perfect example of how GB&U works to protect folks on BF.
 
The Last Confederate said:
The name someone uses on here is irrelevant, as long as folks can search in GB&U and see what they have DONE UNDER that name.
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That's a true statement, as long as your world and what you believe revolves around GB&U and BF in general. You disregard the fact that we do know the name of the knife maker and we don't know the name of the buyer and there is life outside of GB&U.

Everyone that uses this forum to buy and sell has now been warned to watch out for the shady knife maker. His name doesn't change when he is off of the forum. Where is everyones protection from doing business with the buyer when they are off the forum because his name, and yours for that matter, do change.

The protection of GB&U is mostly one sided and favors the anonymous. Protection on BF is all you need. I would like to have more than that.

Another perfect example of how GB&U works to protect folks on BF.
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I can accept the fact that you and others see no validity in a single point I have stated. You can just consider it my turn to be wrong again. It's just my opinion. I yield to the wisdom of the GB&U collective.
 
Kerry Hampton said:
I believe it is important to note that it is easy to post comments, be it negative or positive, about a person when the poster is hiding behind an anonymous profile. I don't take them serious or make decisions based their posts. I believe that it is common courtesy(if not common sense) that if you want your comments to be taken seriously anywhere, you should let people know who you are.
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Great. Next it will be that if you aren't man enough to tell a maker to their face that you aren't happy with their product your opinion doesn't count. :rolleyes: I go by OilMan on the forums but I sign anything I think deserves it with my real life name. This one doesn't.

oil :p

ps. And if an anonymous user is an asshat and lies about when they ship things their real name comes out in the end too.
 
ok first off i have not purchased one of daniels knives ,BUT i have spoke to him on the phone about some of his knives. HE only lives about 25 miles from me and while talking to him once for over an hour on the phone he was nothing but nice, and friendly plus his other job in life is to help others as well. the things reported here if true then sometimes things happen and life happens . i would have no problem ever buying a knife from this man. he even invited me down to visit his shop . the man makes knives in spare time and even under sells them to the public. daniel to me is good guy period:thumbup:
 
Kerry Hampton said:
That's a true statement, as long as your world and what you believe revolves around GB&U and BF in general. You disregard the fact that we do know the name of the knife maker and we don't know the name of the buyer and there is life outside of GB&U.
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So what, what about the makers that do use psuedonyms instead of their real name, folks can search that name just as easily as a "real name"...your not even making sense at this point.

Kerry Hampton said:
Where is everyones protection from doing business with the buyer when they are off the forum because his name, and yours for that matter, do change.
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What has the buyer done wrong that anyone needs to worry about doing business with him? Did the buyer tell the maker "your money has been sent when it hadn't"...Not sure what your trying to accomplish here???

A maker repeatedly misled a customer whos money he had about a shipping date and was not communicating until it was brought here to GB&U and then suddenly he got some of his act together (and is resolving his stuff with another member) when it was brought here...to a forum that is SPECIFICALLY intended for this type of thing.

If somehow you are that upset with seeing it, then possibly you need to quit reading GB&U?

I cannot begin to fathom why you are so upset over people using GB&U for it's very purpose????? :confused:
 
Kerry Hampton said:
That's a true statement, as long as your world and what you believe revolves around GB&U and BF in general. You disregard the fact that we do know the name of the knife maker and we don't know the name of the buyer and there is life outside of GB&U.

The protection of GB&U is mostly one sided and favors the anonymous. Protection on BF is all you need. I would like to have more than that.

I can accept the fact that you and others see no validity in a single point I have stated. You can just consider it my turn to be wrong again. It's just my opinion. I yield to the wisdom of the GB&U collective.
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I see validity in your statements, and see your points.

The world is an imperfect place. The internet and forums magnify screwups. An otherwise top-notch knifemaker may have reputation sullied by bad business decisions, poor communication skills, or even a bad batch of steel.

That totally sucks.

This is counterbalanced by the fact that for every person unjustly maligned in a place like GB &U there are three or four Allen Blades, Newt Livesays, Jack Crains....these are people who make careers out of broken promises, and will take your money without delivering the goods.

The best makers rise to the top, regardless of the adversities they face.

Some knife crafters are better at making excuses than knives.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson, who has ALWAYS signed his own name in over 3,000 posts.
 
diamdave said:
Dan Prentice has contacted me and offered to graciously make me a new knife besides the one I purchased. All at no charge. I think that is honorable and makes me a much happier consumer than I was one hour ago. His quick response and efforts to right an error are all good signs. I'm looking forward to his new knife.
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Very honorable of him indeed. Now it would be honorable of you to ship back the knife you didn't order once you're happy with your knife (the new one he's about to make you). This way the maker can recouperate some of his costs, you get what you paid for and noone comes out any wiser.
 
Kohai999 said:
I see validity in your statements, and see your points.

The world is an imperfect place. The internet and forums magnify screwups. An otherwise top-notch knifemaker may have reputation sullied by bad business decisions, poor communication skills, or even a bad batch of steel.

That totally sucks.

This is counterbalanced by the fact that for every person unjustly maligned in a place like GB &U there are three or four Allen Blades, Newt Livesays, Jack Crains....these are people who make careers out of broken promises, and will take your money without delivering the goods.

The best makers rise to the top, regardless of the adversities they face.

Some knife crafters are better at making excuses than knives.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson, who has ALWAYS signed his own name in over 3,000 posts.
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Well said. Like I said early on, I agree the transaction was mishandled. Thank you for your even keeled approach to this stinky shituation.
 
Actually faramir I offered to do exactly that. He was gracious enough to offer me both knives. I look forward to the new one. If he wants the other back, of course that is fine as well. Let's see how things proceed....
 
well if you must know -my name is howard pearl-
so i guess im the dirtbag because i use rosconey instead of howard-that takes the frigging cake-
also you mentioned i called him a fraud -and i didnt-

kinda funny the way you see things-but hey your a blade maker so you must stick up for another even if he was wrong and tried to make me out to be the ass-maybe those blades in your brain are causing a problem with reality
 
Look, service is equal to blade quality and price, in my book.

You can check dimensions, Rockwells and edge grinds. You take service on faith, trust, whatever you want to call it.

Dan Prentice has offered to rectify my knife issues. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and see how things proceed. The knife I received was very well done, but not to agreed specs. Prentice, as noted above, has offered me a gracious solution to which I am looking forward.

Rosconey had service and delivery issues. Every client has to decide how important that is for himself. Some people might lovingly wait a year for a Mad Dog. They don't care, that's what they want. I received my Yurcos in about two or so weeks. Gary Bradburn once called me, asked for a couple of extra weeks, due to health issues. I said 'sure, as long as I have a sense of when I can expect it.' He kept his word and made two beautiful knives for me.

I think there are very few bad apples. Knifemakers want to sell knives, why would they intentionally shoot themselves in the foot with wrong production or bad communication? And yet, sometimes, it happens. By the same token, customers want to make sure they are getting what they custom ordered. Otherwise, we'd all just buy production pieces and leave it that.

Money is tight these days for everybody. Let's all just respect each other, in both directions, and strengthen the community on both ends.
 
diamdave said:
Actually faramir I offered to do exactly that. He was gracious enough to offer me both knives. I look forward to the new one. If he wants the other back, of course that is fine as well. Let's see how things proceed....
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You're a good man diamdave - I hope everything works out well.
 
You got what you wanted and yet you still feel the need to Whine !

Daniel Prentice is a Great Bloke in my book !!! It`s a shame he has to cop this crap .
 
say what
good for you-
when he lies to you and claims you paid less so he looks better-get back to me

i was also done with this crap till his old lady got online and restarted it-
so fuck him his pos old lady and everyone who thinks im the bad guy-

and il stick up for myself as long as it takes- i did nothing wrong-yet dickheads want to blame me for his piss poor actions-

tell you what -send me 400 and ill send you the knife someday
 
Rosconey2, in my opinion it would be better to just let things go. Right now it looks like you are continuing this as a vendetta.

It would also be best if everyone else would let this die. This will be my last post, either here or in the thread in the maker gallery. There is no need for this to continue on any longer.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Right now it looks like you are continuing this as a vendetta.
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I have seen this type of stuff before here on the forum as of late.

I think it comes from anger and zeal that is turned lose and has taken over good judgement.
I see on some other topics here, where in a misguided effort to cause harm to the reputations of others, some of my forum brothers only end up causeing harm to their own reputations.

We all are "lied too and ignored", thats part of life in the big city after all.

But while I cant stop another guy from being guilty of lieing to me, and I cant stop him from ignoring me,
I can stop his actions from changing me.

His actions, (as bad as they may in fact be) dont have to change the way I react to others, nor push me into actions that have me causeing harm to my own reputation.

The key is to remember to always maintain control over one's temper.
 
Keith Montgomery said:
Rosconey2, in my opinion it would be better to just let things go. Right now it looks like you are continuing this as a vendetta.

It would also be best if everyone else would let this die. This will be my last post, either here or in the thread in the maker gallery. There is no need for this to continue on any longer.
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I agree with Kieth, this seems to be a lynch mob attempt. I have not met either party, but I have seem the work of Daniel and how he has responded to Diamdave. It seems that he has tried to make ammends for the problems, but Rosconey just won't let it go. I can say, and it just me, that I would not hesitate to buy a knife from Daniel, which is more than I can say for Rosconey. Steven
 
oldrifleman said:
, but I have seen the work of Daniel and how he has responded to Diamdave. It seems that he has tried to make ammends for the problems,
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none of us can back-up time and correct the errors we might have made in the past.
But what we can do is change the future, thats where we can still reach the reputation we would have always wanted in the first place.

Thus, while we may always be sad over the way things 'went" we should work hard at getting things in the here and now to go the way we want!

Reputations are made in the here and now, and can serve us into the future.
So it does matter that a guy reacts to today's struggles with an eye on the future, and not just allow errors of the past to drag us all down .
 
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