Dave Canterbury posted an apology vid on his channel.

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Dave set the record straight and asked to be forgiven. So be it.
We have all sinned and what Dave did by comming clean was
a good deal.


Bryan
 
I enjoyed that show quite a bit...mostly because of Dave. I have the Ep. 1 of Season 3 on the DVR and have not seen it yet so I cant make judgement of it. Everyone I know embellishes about who they are or what they have done. Is it wrong yes...is it forgivable yes! I would have been fine with Dave staying on the show. He was quite a personality and the combo was also quite good! Said thing about this is how many congressmen, senators and so on lie and still hold office? Dave was wrong but shouldnt have lost his job over this, there are far worse things he could have done! And no one got hurt in the process!
 
I've always felt that someone who can't accept an apology has something to hide themselves.

Congrats to Dave for eating humble pie.
 
I still like Dave a lot. He seems like a real outdoors mans and handy to have around.

Embellishing facts to a TV producer... Umm ... I don't Producers as a whole have that great of a reputation. The problem is that it became a lie to the audience quite by accident or poor foresight. He's taking the consequences like a man.
 
I didn't really care about his lying and I don't really care about his apology, he's made/making plenty of money regardless and so too is Cody and the discovery network.....surely there are far more important worldly issues to concentrate on !
 
I don't respect what he did, but I greatly admire him taking responsibility for his actions (how rare is that!) and asking for forgiveness. That doesn't happen very often with anyone, let alone a public personality.

I have it on good authority that a wise man once said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."
 
I think he proved himself in the two seasons he was on Dual Survival, and for me, he was an essential part of the appeal of the show's entertainment value.
He's not the first celebrity to make such mistakes and I hope he recovers from it. A lot of celebrities have gotten away with similar or worse mistakes. Dave Letterman comes to mind :)
Maybe if members of the military can find it in their hearts to forgive him, it might get better. It would be a shame if such a go-getter ends up living the rest of his career in disgrace.
 
Dave has shown during the two seasons that he had place on the show. Aside from some hill-billy stunts he has shown valuable things and explained them in easy to grasp way.
And let's be honest, who didn't 'tune up' a resume to get the job?
I don't think Cody is spotless himself... Why the outrage
I hope Dave carries on with his business and shares the knowledge and skills with other people.
 
he made an apology,owned up,posted it on the internet for everyone to see,takes guts to do that...i like his youtube channel,has tons of informative vids,and seems like a nice guy,alls forgiven.......
 
I have mixed thoughts about this whole issue. Dave seems like a good guy and without a doubt he does have plenty of experience in his field.... but I think he is apologizing just because he got caught. Even then, his apology didn't really sound like an apology, it sounded more like he was rounding off the edges to make it sound less severe. He never explained what exactly those "embellishments" were, and the message he sent was, "hey everybody does it, so it's not that big of a deal".

I have known people in the past and still know people currently who "embellishes" their resumes about having a college degree when they didn't. I also know people who boasts about having gone to a prestigious college when in fact he took ONE non-credited class there. When someone claims they accomplished something when in fact they didn't, it takes away a lot from the people who worked hard to EARN it.
 
Thing about liars is once a liar always a liar. Don't forget that he lied about the reason for not being on season 3 after he got fired. He made a public statement that it was his choice not to continue for family and his personal school. He lied about that. It is also the case that he blocks youtubers from commenting on his videos if they are critical of him, which in my opinion is another form of dishonesty. I am seeing a lot of automatic emotional kneejerk reaction to his apology. I wonder about the timing also. I very much doubt he is apologizing right now for the sake of making things right with Jesus. Something in the works? Maybe the Joe Teti gross out/blow back factor is so severe an opportunity is opening up for him? Wouldn't be surprised. All in all there isn't one of these characters I admire on Dual Survivor, with Joe Teti being the worst as far as credibility despite his vetted resume. If that pig kill or urine drinking nonsense doesn't put you off to him, you don't deserve to be posting on Bladeforums.
 
If he LIED about his military training or service he should NOT be forgiven! That is something you just can't do.

If he wants to be forgiven so bad--offer Discovery back their money--then I will forgive you! That's why you LIED in the first place, right? Too better your family?
 
Monofletch said:
If he LIED about his military training or service he should NOT be forgiven! That is something you just can't do.

If he wants to be forgiven so bad--offer Discovery back their money--then I will forgive you! That's why you LIED in the first place, right? Too better your family?
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Right on!
 
1st wearing a huge cross for everyone to see

2nd excuses his “embellishments” by saying he didn’t do it to hurt anyone (fact: pretending to be a Ranger and an SRT Sniper is called stealing valor, and it hurts the veterans, widows, and orphans because he used it to get a job that should have gone to someone else who really earned that tan beret, and it’s despicable. He excuses it, saying he did it for his family. Stole valor for his family? He even says, “No harm, no foul.” That’s like saying you cheated on your taxes for your family.)

3rd “Everyone in the world makes mistakes.” Really?

4th Starts whipping out the bible and talking about how no one is perfect.

5th He did not start lying about his military background with DS. He was doing it for years before, starting with his first website. And he did it for profit and to increase his legitimacy.

6th He has used his fake background to try to get special favors in the past. He was kicked out of a prominent bushcraft community because he refused to follow their self-promotion and advertising rules, believing himself to be exempt because he’s the famous “Pathfinder.”

7th Tried to hide the real reason why he got canned for over a year. He was openly stating that he just wanted to spend more time with his family and with his Pathfinder school.

8th I believe from the bottom of my heart that the only reason why he’s coming clean now is because the heat is coming on big time now and finally hitting his bottom line, and folks who do business with him are starting to pull out.

9th I agree that the chemistry between him and Cody was part of the draw of the show, but do you know why? Because he acted like a bullheaded, trashy moron. That’s why he was always fighting with Cody.

10th Go ahead and forgive him and defend him. I know why. It’s because you probably like him for “who he is.” Well, let’s address that: “Who he is” is the guy in points 1 – 9 above. You probably think he’s just a real sweet, manly man and a heck of a guy you’d love to have a beer with. Good luck with that. You’d end up paying for his beer as he was hightailing it away. But DS did the right thing (just like numerous people before this all came into public light) by kicking him to the curb and cutting their losses. Now he’s hoping he can keep making money and save his crumbling business built on his lies.
 
I totally respect Dave for stepping up and setting the record straight. I wish him nothing but the best.
Jim
 
You would be surprised at how many Active Duty service members “embellish” their training records, service and award ribbons. When they get caught they get hammered…and these aren’t always the PFC Smiths hitting the Clothing and Sales for a handful of cool colored ribbons.

I’m not excusing Dave from lying about his record and he should be admonished for that. However, there are a lot of ex-military who use their service records as their resume for advertisement and credibility; many of those are “embellished” as well. If you spend even a day in some military communities, you’ll find they are ruthless in their scrubbing of records and backgrounds from those that have gone public for commercial endeavors. There is no excuse for it and it will catch up to them.

I’ve been in positions where I had to “punish” Soldiers for lying, cheating, stealing, etc. They do get punished; lose rank, lose money, forfeit time/freedom, etc. What I’ve learned however is that everybody does make mistakes, some more serious than others. However, for the less serious (of which I consider this whole Dave Canterbury drama), you can write them off (the easy road), or you can offer the support of forgiveness and encourage them to use their mistakes to learn, improve and share with other to avoid (the more difficult road).

Some of the most successful enlisted leaders I know have made very similar mistakes early on in their careers that Dave did, but on a much less public scale. Their mistakes helped define their success; they were punished, they were encouraged and they recovered and succeeded. If Dave uses this experience and his errors to improve his life and hopefully teach his students/kids the consequences for their actions, than I will give him the benefit of doubt. He could easily have avoided any kind of apology (of which he made a few months ago on Facebook) and still been successful despite the break-up with Discovery. Some will never forgive; that’s their prerogative and I can understand to a degree. However, I do believe in forgiveness and second chances…few people would be where they are if they didn’t receive that forgiveness and second chances. My focus is on the positive and the future…quality people are those that make mistakes, own up to them and grow from the experience.

ROCK6
 
The problem, ROCK6, is that he didn't "own up to them [lies]" Did you see him? He started with a rambling excuse and talking about how his contract was up and how he didn't really mean to hurt anyone. And wearing that cross and quoting the bible was just sickening. You know what I was thinking as I was watching him? He reminded me of those guys on "To Catch a Predator" when Chris Hansen walks in on them. They always start by saying, "I'm sorry! I didn't mean to hurt anyone. I know I did something wrong, but I just wanted to help someone! I wasn't going to do anything bad! See what a great guy I really am?" If we follow the merciful forgiveness rhetoric, then Chris Hansen and all those cops outside should just walk over to the perv and give him a big hug and say, "You're owning up to your mistakes. You'll grow from this. We forgive you."

But that's not even what I disagree with the most. You say that this is "less serious." Actually, I'm pretty sure it's "more serious." Every time he gives advice (admittedly, some of it good, but some of it bad), someone listens to him. Why? Because he was a bad mofo Ranger and Sniper, a pipe-swinging bad mofo. And they take it as gospel. And that gets people hurt. Not to mention the millions upon millions of dollars he swindled companies out of based on his fake resume. I wouldn't consider this "less serious" This is solid "more serious" territory.

I know the "less serious" you're talking about, and I understand where you're coming from. I did a short stint at HRC before they moved to Ft Knox, my friend. Most of the guys claiming medals and training they didn't receive are just trying to get a little extra benefit money. They're hoping for a few extra hundred bucks a month. Not swindling the whole world out of millions of dollars. And not trying to get *other* people to try survival techniques they didn't really learn in Ranger school.
 
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