dealing with friends who are not knife persons....

The things I buy and collect don't define me - they're just a small part of what I'm about, and I see no reason to call attention to them - I collect other things too, and unless somebody asks me specifically, they'll likely never find out. That's as it should be, I think.

Fact is, the folks who are afraid of implements and tools are the irrational ones and there is nothing you'll likely be able to do to change them. They are already patterned and if you value their company (I don't, but that's neither here nor there), you won't intentionally do things to alarm them.
 
I have knives, swords, and battle axes on my wall. Maybe that's why I don't have that many friends. Oh well, I have enough. :D
 
Do these people not realize that knives were used in the process of making their homes? the cars they drive? the clothes and shoes they wear? The knife is one of mans greatest inventions, right up there with fire and the wheel. Yes I have encountered people who ask me all the time why I Carry a Leatherman Wave, and not just leave it in the car? What good is it gonna do me in my car if I need it at work, home, at the lake or in the woods? Believe it or not I have been approached by walmart associates who have asked me to remove my tool from my belt and put it in my pocket because it is intimidating!!!! It's funny to me because they sell the Wave right there in sporting goods too, but yet they let people with carry permits carry a pistol in the store as long as its concealed.

Knives help build and make America what it is today, and I will carry til the day I die, plus its always better to have a knife and not need it at the moment than to need it and not have it.......
 
Bushman: How old are you? It sounds like your acquaintances are just kids. Unless you live in a really crappy area you'll notice with time that as people get older they tend to think and act more reasonably and with greater tolerance towards others.
 
I still dont get why so many folks on here feel the need for societies good graces when it comes to our hobby/favorite tool.

Society , the people who are "scared of knives" are the freaks , not us.

The sort of folks who are afraid a gun might "just go off" by itself , the people who use razor blades and huge kitchen knives on a daily basis but wierd out when you carry a knife , the folks who are afraid of their own shadow and would never dream of questioning authority.

Who needs their opinions anyway ?
 
crom said:
most of my friends are "left of center" and all accept that I have a knife on me at all times.
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In my experience they are the only ones that I get grief from for having guns and knives. Never have I had an issue with those that were moderates (like me) or even more conservative. Im afraid politics can have an affect.
 
I don't care to keep in contact with people who would be so easily scared for no good reason. There's something about irrationality that just annoys the hell out of me... Other than the fact that irrantionailty is the basis of idiocy, I just can't put my finger on why it bothers me so much.
 
Sheeple need to realize the difference between criminals and knife collectors/users. The people that spend the time to learn about good knives and spend the money it takes to get a good knife are almost never criminals. the majority of crimes commited with an edged weapon are done with cheap pieces of crap or cooking knives by people that know nothing about knives.
 
Uncle Rukus said:
Had these people known you at all before you showed them your collection? I have friends that arn't knife ppl but they don't get freaked out at the fact that I carry a knife all the time. In fact I think it actually makes them feel a bit safer to be around me just in case we ever got into a bad situation. However, if the ppl that didn't want to talk to you anymore had not known you beforehand then I could see them getting freaked out a bit. I usually don't show my friends my knives unless they ask to see them or they already know me and this is just one more side of me they have yet to learn.
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these people have known that i collect and use knives since day one, and thay was a long time ago.....
 
AfterTFD said:
Bushman: How old are you? It sounds like your acquaintances are just kids. Unless you live in a really crappy area you'll notice with time that as people get older they tend to think and act more reasonably and with greater tolerance towards others.
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i'm late 30's, professionally employed, volunteer SAR searcher on occasion (forest FireWatch too) , Volunteer minor treatment center at festivals, 30+ years of woods craft and sklills etc etc etc

they are in their late 20's, ex treeplanters, now working in the city.
 
think about this for a sec....

we can bag on sheeple till the end of time , the only thing that is going to start changing people's minds is to portray the knife as a tool , and stop the dam dramatic openings in public.

think about it , you walk into a room and see someone you don't know pull a knife out with a loud thwack opening. What image does that present to you ? If it is not at a show , and is in public or at a workplace , that makes me think " way to go dolt... thanks for helping the cause , the mall is over there mr ninja ".

Same thing , if you walked in a room and saw someone racking the slide on a 1911 , and it was someone you didn't know , WTF would you think ? I am a gun and knife guy and I would even look at that person strange !

Society won't change without persuasion. Change the way you present things before you expect others to see it your way. Stop giving them ammo to use against us.

Look how the bikers , the Harley guys, were looked at for years. Now look at the image many years later , thru hard work and educating the public , bikers are now more widely accepted.
 
Uncle Rukus said:
Had these people known you at all before you showed them your collection?
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Sorry, but from your first post I was under the impression these people were new acquaintances. If they've known you collect and carry knives on a regular basis, and they knew this, and now they're freaked, they're not friends.
 
I hate people.... Especially idiots like the OP have described.

There is this idiot at work that asks me if I plan on killing people by cutting them up.

Did I mention I hate people?
 
John T Wylie Jr said:
I never mention a price of a knife unless someone asks. Face it , most folks who are not knife folks , will buy the cheapest set of knives for the kitchen ( including me , can't get the wife to care properly for a good set ) so they base their views off of what they are used to. It's their only perception.

Even a $75 knife to a non-knife person is ridiculous , even though they may have no problem with dropping $400 on an MP3 player or an iPhone.

I have people who will now come to me at work and ask me for references of what to buy their wife for the kitchen , or for their friend , brother , husband etc for gifts. To those people , I will ask up front of what their budget is and recommend accordingly. If they say they want a knife for someone and the budget is $30 , rather than tell them to spend more , I show them all the options in that range and then maybe make a few suggestions of something nicer if it is for a special occasion.

The average person , who may use a knife once a day or once a week , doesn't need a custom or a $200 production , they can get by with a $30 Kershaw or Spyderco of some sort. Trying to convince them otherwise ,will not work. Have to start them small and let them move up. I still remember back to when I was carrying a $1,000 1911 and a Buck Crosslock. I didnt know any better then , but that knife did all I ever asked of it and I paid $10 for it at a pawn shop.

Before trying to " WOW ! " someone with your collection , instead educate what is it that interests you about knives , explain the online communities , the friends you meet , the shows you attend.

And be ready to face the facts , that we , the knife buying/collecting/using public will just never be accepted by many. That's just how it is , blame the media , blame the people who commit the crimes with knives , perhaps even blame the companies that do the ninja marketing , and yes sometimes we can even blame ourselves.

When you need to open that box , package or letter , do you do the super ninja draw wave and open your knife with a "thwack" drawing the shocking attention of others ? Or do you discreetly and calmly open it , complete the task and put it away ?

While eating lunch , I can reach in my pocket , get my Erickson slip , open it and go about using it for cutting food , or opening food , and never even break conversation or eye contact with those around me. Don't go for the shock factor , many do , it's the " hey look at me , I have a knife " syndrome. Coincidently it is just as easy to spot a newbie to carrying a firearm concealed , same syndrome. They want to show people , but control that urge , until you are sure they want to have you share that info ( except for CCW , I always stay low key there ).

Perception... if you are perceived as a threat to others , you will be treated that way.

Not saying to worry about how others see you , or what others think.. UNLESS you are expecting to be accepted or you worry about what others think of you.
Respect isn't given , it is earned.

just random thoughts :)
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hey now! :D i still have my Cub Scout knife skills badge! . I dont flail my knifes around, i doint throw them 9except for the throwers and 'hawks) and i dont call attention to myself.

problem is, peole have ALWAYS felt uncomfortable around me, i'm a very intense person, i dont do anyhting by the book, i do things my own way, i think outside the box, and i say it like it is......plus i happen to sorta look like a skinhead (look i'll be honest...the hair retreated YEARS ago, i just look better shaved....)

they also think it weird that i hike alone at night. I grew up doing that.....its perfectly normal to me.

thanks for all the posts people! much appreciated1 :thumbup:
 
SPXTrader said:
Sorry, but from your first post I was under the impression these people were new acquaintances. If they've known you collect and carry knives on a regular basis, and they knew this, and now they're freaked, they're not friends.
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they described me to a girl, thinking she would be intrested in me. She was quite disturbed.
 
Bushman , that was a general statement , and not directed at you or anyone , just based off of observations of people. No offense meant.

I "obeserve" people a lot , wife calls me paranoid , I call it being alert , all in perception.
 
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