dealing with friends who are not knife persons....

When asked why I have so many knives, I generally tell them how much more room the firearms take up... then there is all of that ammo... and the reloading press/supplies... If we are in public, I show them my CC license... and tell them to imagine if/what/where I'm packing.

If that fails, I take them downstairs to see my G-scale model trains (Stainz is the name or an Austrian 0-4-0T steam engine the late 'LGB' used as their logo. My real name is John!). Then they understand... even if I don't! Hey, the knives take up a lot less space - and aren't generally crew-served.

Stainz (John)
 
I've lived in a rural environment all of my life,I grew up farming and always carried a knife everywhere,even to school,in the 60s and 70s.My friends have always known that I have a knife on me,always knew that if I was around and they needed to cut something,I had a knife,I even loaned it to a couple of teachers when I was in school.I moved to NY about 8yrs ago,I still live in a rural area,but I run into people more often around here that are more PC.I spend a couple of evenings a week at local auctions,some in PA,when I'm in PA attitudes seem to be a bit different about knives than they are around here.A while back I was at an auction near here,I was looking at knives in a box on a table and a woman walks up and says,"they really should put those away somewhere,what if some nut case grabs one and starts attacking people"by the way they were pocketknives,mostly older,a few newer Pakistan knives,but nothing that was extreme.In another occurance,I was at an auction,there was a woman,50ish,I've seen her there a few times never talked to her.This particular night,she came up and talked to me,a couple of times,later in the evening,I bought an old homemade machinist chest,thinking that I would clean it up and use it to store knives,she asked me what I had in mind for that box and I told her.She has kept her distance ever since.
 
I tend to keep my collections put up. I prefer NOT to have every Tom, Dick, and Harry know that I have an extensive firearm collection or a budding knife collection. I've done minor gunsmithing for quite a few folks including local LEOs. Unfortunately, this led to my name being associated with AR15s and firearms in general. I put a stop to this by playing it down to acquaintences and asking friends not to "advertise" for any new business. Eventually the buzz subsided.

It isn't about being embarassed (I'm a vocal supporter of the 2nd amendment), but it IS about the safety of my family. Unfortunately, some thugs feel entitled to my/your nice things and would have no qualms about "visiting" our respective homes.

As another posted mentioned, I'd muzzle my big-mouthed friend. It's no secret that I'm an avid Archer, Pistol competitor, and knife collector, but it isn't my defining characteristic to my friends.

No offense, but it sounds to me as though your friends are kind of young? Late teens maybe? If not, their maturity levels reflect that age. Something to think about.
 
Great topic. I have had the same kind of experiences other posters here have discussed. For instance, I recently had a coworker--this 6 foot something, big bald, mildly intense looking guy--almost crap himself when he saw a Byrd Robin I had sitting on my desk. I'd pulled it out in anticipation of cutting something during lunch.

So the Byrd is at home, replaced by a SAK-of-the-day.

I generally keep my interest in knives on the down-low. I live in a city, and most of my friends (I frankly have few true ones) and acquaintances now are urbane, university-educated, white-collar, affluent sheeple, generally. It's just easier that way.
 
Coffee Black said:
Back to the discussion about owning many knives perceived as an abnormal hobby. Looking at it another way, if your new acquaintance invites you over to his house for coffee and he suddenly shows you his entire ***** collection, if you don't have any interest in sex toys, I would imagine you think he is nuts (pun intended)! I mean, you don't go around showing off your *****s, man. People are going to think you're some psycho sex freak. Same here with a knife collection.
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Big difference. I don't know about you, but most people don't carry a ***** every day for utility or even self defense. Maybe you whip out a ***** and start stabbing boxes open, pummel an apple into mush for lunch, flail at strings needed to be cut?

It could be pretty effective against a mugger- He demands all your money, and you get a crazy look on your face then "wave" a ***** out of your pants. . . :D

Knives are useful tools. "*****" might describe the people freaked out by those knives.
 
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J_Roc said:
Bufford Since she is a teacher said:
My wife is a teacher, at a private school, and she is not aware of any such "law," could you reference it here please? Is this something in the Criminal Code of Canada, or just a "policy" at your friend's particular school?
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That'll be a policy, not a law. And it'll be one aimed at elementary school(POSSIBLY high school too).
No problems in college or university.:)
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You guys need to come over here. At this very moment it’s all anti-knife in the news with a load of idiots wailing about why teenagers are stabbing each other on a daily basis. But it depends on where you live, how your friends see you
But despite living in the UK I find that, despite the most earnest efforts of the hysterical media and police, the vast majority of people have a fairly sensible attitude towards decent normal people carrying a legal knife. I do though live in a semi-rural small city were some people either hunt and fish and farm or are related or know someone who does. If I lived in London I’m sure the attitude would be different, but I’m lucky enough to be able to live my life without needing to go into large cities. I am aware though that the majority of the people who are anti-knife are the young professional middle-classes. Most people who actually do proper work for a living generally have things more important to worry about than my SAK waiter/Barlow/jack knife.
I only carry what I’m legally allowed to carry (slipjoint folder 3” blade) and actually that is usually a SAK Waiter on my keys. I use my knives openly yet discreetly (cutting food, opening bottles, sharpening pencils) and don’t make a song and dance about it and have never had anyone remark on it. I’ve never made an issue of the relatively small number of knives I own and to my friends I don’t ‘collect’ knives, I ‘own several that I use for various chores or activities’.
Saying that heres the only time someone did make an issue of it, and it was with my best mate whose a serving police officer.
We were in the pub one night and as you do I dumped my cellphone, keys and wallet on the table. Despite knowing him for 20 years for some reason he never actually realized I carry a legal knife. He picks up my keys and waves my keys with the SAK waiter in my face wanting to know “why are you carrying a knife”??!!
So I told him I had done from being a kid and that the law, which I don’t need to explain to a police officer, allows me to carry a 3” slipjoint without good reason. I ask him what the problem is. He replies that I could do real harm if I wanted to and that he would consider arresting me!!
So I ask him how long had we been mates. 20 years. I then ask him why he believes that carrying a SAK makes me a potential murderer and why he believes that after 20 years he suddenly views me as a potential murderer just because he’s found a SAK waiter on my keys. I got a blank look back. So I tell him that I feel DEEPLY insulted that a long time mate suddenly thinks I could commit unspeakable crimes against people just because I carry a SAK. I tell him that if he thinks I’m that sort of person he better arrest me there and then or either shut up or @!!% off cos any supposed friend of mine who sees me as a murdering raping child molester isn’t any friend of mine. I ask him how many Criminal Records Checks he’s had in the 8 years of being on the force (CRB checks are mandatory police record checks for the majority of government employees and ALL healthcare workers when you start a new job). He replies two. Now because I work in healthcare and because of all my different responsibilities, in the same space of time I’ve had seven CRB’s. Which means I’m more squeaky clean than the copper threatening to arrest his best mate over a damned SAK.
Well I got an apology and a few beers bought for me and he’s never raised the issue again. Personally I think the reason why people get jumpy is no one, including many police, has the ability to discriminate good guy from bad guy anymore. EVERYONES a bad guy if your behaviour deviates from their narrow-minded belief system.
Funnily enough his wife whose a real socialist anti-gun anti-everything person didn’t have an issue and actually said that if I had to get rid of my SAK then they better get rid of their kitchen knives. It’s a weird weird world.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading.
D.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
Big difference. I don't know about you, but most people don't carry a dildo every day for utility or even self defense. Maybe you whip out a dildo and start stabbing boxes open, pummel an apple into mush for lunch, flail at strings needed to be cut?

It could be pretty effective against a mugger- He demands all your money, and you get a crazy look on your face then "wave" a dildo out of your pants. . . :D

Knives are useful tools. "Dildos" might describe the people freaked out by those knives.
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Hahaha! No, I don't own a dildo. :) I should have clarified my point earlier. I don't mean to say that knives are the same as dildos in the context of usage. But more like they carry the same level of negative emotional attachment. If someone has a huge toy train or stamps collection, they are perceived as enthusiasts/hobbyist/safe.
If someone who has a huge blade or dildo collection, they are perceived as psychopatic/obsessive/dangerous/freak.

Your colleague at your workplace might be an avid dildo collector. You probably would think he's a sexual predator and that you should advise all the women you know of this guy. He might be thinking you are a psycho. But if you two had another colleague who collects toy trains, you probably won't think he's up to no good. Hope I've clarified my point.
 
Keith_H said:
Jos- you don't need to avoid Canada! Just because somebody is scared of a folder shouldn't spoil an entire country's image!
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My reaction was not triggered by somebody being scared of a folder, but by the fact that children are not allowed to talk about knives/guns. Actually I want to visit Canada (one day I will), because I think it's a beautiful country. (And my favourite knifedealer, Neil Ostroff, lives in Canada:D)

Kind regards,

Jos
 
Let's keep the language here on a level in which you would not mind your child reading this forum.

Fair warning. There are other forums here for some of the off color remarks being made. Use them instead of the General Forum some of you have been here for a while and it is disappointing to see that you think it is OK to use those terms here.
 
Coffee Black said:
Hahaha! No, I don't own a *****. :) I should have clarified my point earlier. I don't mean to say that knives are the same as *****s in the context of usage. But more like they carry the same level of negative emotional attachment. If someone has a huge toy train or stamps collection, they are perceived as enthusiasts/hobbyist/safe.
If someone who has a huge blade or ***** collection, they are perceived as psychopatic/obsessive/dangerous/freak.

Your colleague at your workplace might be an avid ***** collector. You probably would think he's a sexual predator and that you should advise all the women you know of this guy. He might be thinking you are a psycho. But if you two had another colleague who collects toy trains, you probably won't think he's up to no good. Hope I've clarified my point.
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But, on the other hand, I consider anyone who has a huge gun or knife collection to be perfectly normal, and people who amass large amounts of useless junk like trains and stamps and beanie babies to be peculiar. But then again, I am not a mental defective who fears inanimate objects.
 
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That also includes quoting the posts.

Enough. No more warnings.
 
Bastid said:
That also includes quoting the posts.

Enough. No more warnings.
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Sorry, I did not see your post before I had posted- I type slow. I did not think that word was bad for any 13 year old to see, but can edit it out if you would like.
 
Well then I'll suggest a substitute. Instead of silicone moldings we can use collecting glassware for distilled beverages as the comparative hobby.
 
Well I look at it this way, If you had a giant pelican case filled with Playboy or other mags of this type, would they look at you any better? Both are legal if you can buy them in a store.
I would rather be known as a knife collector, than as a porn collector.

FB
 
donn said:
Saying that heres the only time someone did make an issue of it, and it was with my best mate whose a serving police officer.
We were in the pub one night and as you do I dumped my cellphone, keys and wallet on the table. Despite knowing him for 20 years for some reason he never actually realized I carry a legal knife. He picks up my keys and waves my keys with the SAK waiter in my face wanting to know “why are you carrying a knife”??!!
So I told him I had done from being a kid and that the law, which I don’t need to explain to a police officer, allows me to carry a 3” slipjoint without good reason. I ask him what the problem is. He replies that I could do real harm if I wanted to and that he would consider arresting me!!


Funnily enough his wife whose a real socialist anti-gun anti-everything person didn’t have an issue and actually said that if I had to get rid of my SAK then they better get rid of their kitchen knives. It’s a weird weird world.
Sorry for the long post and thanks for reading.
D.
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Wow. My jaw was just about hanging open reading this. :eek:
 
donn said:
/snip/D.
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donn, you guys are screwed and your friend is brainwashed. His thinking typifies the liberal mindset here in the US that thankfully hasn't completely taken over our government.

I hope it gets better for you guys over there, but that doesn't appear too likely.
 
Frank Barron said:
Well I look at it this way, If you had a giant pelican case filled with Playboy or other mags of this type, would they look at you any better? Both are legal if you can buy them in a store.
I would rather be known as a knife collector, than as a porn collector.

FB
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Well said.

robicon said:
that thankfully hasn't completely taken over our government.
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You just wait till hussein takes office in November. Then the agenda will have been completed.
 
robicon said:
donn, you guys are screwed and your friend is brainwashed. His thinking typifies the liberal mindset here in the US that thankfully hasn't completely taken over our government.

I hope it gets better for you guys over there, but that doesn't appear too likely.
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Again, I resent the political branding. I carry the "liberal mindset" and I am a supporter of carrying a knife.



I had an arugument with a friend from the UK, He claimed, and was supported by the person beside him, that people should not be allowed to carry a knife, because "there is a lot of nutters out there"

I claim that I use one everyday (I did not have one on me then) and it is a very old and useful tool. He replied that you could do everything a knife can with a pair of blunt scissors, I disagreed but i never got through to him.
 
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