dealing with friends who are not knife persons....

GarageBoy said:
Most of the time, knife attacks are done with flea market/martial arts store specials; no one buys a Sebenza to go rob someone.
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Last time I saw any article detailing the common knives used in violent crimes the majority were kitchen knives. Domestic violence probably accounts for many of them, but kitchen knives are also in use by thugs roaming the streets.

The distinction between hunting and kitchen knives is relatively recent. Jim Bowie's knife was described in some accounts as a butcher's knife. Old Hickory type kitchen knives look a lot like the popular knives used by explorers and trappers.
 
I generally try to avoid people with mental problems when choosing friends. I know a few who went flaky after I knew them though. :eek:

None of my friends are infected with the paranoid delusion that knives are sentient beings with telepathic powers capable of taking control of anyone nearby and forcing them to commit violent acts. :D

This is not to say that all my friends are into knives. Some own knives, some don't and none of them collect them like I do. They just are not paranoid freaks. One of my friends is really into customizing his car, I'm not into that, but that is his hobby. My friends know that knives are my hobby and don't mind even if it is not one of their hobbies.

My sister used to babysit a kid who went into my brothers' room, saw their GI Joe figures, and was terrified that my brothers' GI Joe figures would attack and kill him, but I won't associate with people like that. His mom was a nut who taught him to be that way and only allowed him to play with Barbie dolls. When told of the incident she smiled and said that he isn't raised like other boys. IMO the anti-knife types have somewhat milder forms of this kid's paranoia.
 
If your buddies or your girlfriend are too scared of your knives then they are not true friends and you should pursue other friends besides most guys would think you were cool to have a bunch of knives
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I have friends who don't care for knives , and friends who don't care for guns , I don't push my views on them and they don't push theirs on me. I can't stand cell phones , usually there is an idiot in the fast lane holding up traffic , now my friends all know my thoughts about cell phones in use while driving. If they even think of doing it while I am in the car , I will either take it from them or get out of the car. Doesn't make me any less of a friend to them or them to me.
I have friends that are diehard Mopar fans and think every other make sucks, but it's ok , it nice to be around people who are wrong. :)

You just have to learn to agree to disagree , if they ARE indeed friends , they will leave it at that. Whatever you do , don't try to keep pushing your hobbies off on them , it will only make it worse. You can try to reason with them , but you yourself have to know when to say when and back off.
 
Benjamin Liu said:
I generally try to avoid people with mental problems when choosing friends. I know a few who went flaky after I knew them though. :eek:

None of my friends are infected with the paranoid delusion that knives are sentient beings with telepathic powers capable of taking control of anyone nearby and forcing them to commit violent acts. :D

This is not to say that all my friends are into knives. Some own knives, some don't and none of them collect them like I do. They just are not paranoid freaks. One of my friends is really into customizing his car, I'm not into that, but that is his hobby. My friends know that knives are my hobby and don't mind even if it is not one of their hobbies.

My sister used to babysit a kid who went into my brothers' room, saw their GI Joe figures, and was terrified that my brothers' GI Joe figures would attack and kill him, but I won't associate with people like that. His mom was a nut who taught him to be that way and only allowed him to play with Barbie dolls. When told of the incident she smiled and said that he isn't raised like other boys. IMO the anti-knife types have somewhat milder forms of this kid's paranoia.
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now thats disturbing.......:eek:
 
That incident was during the 1986-1987 school year. I guess you could say it was an early PC programming/wussification example. According to my sister the mother was a psychologist. The kid went to school with my brothers and his mom actually let him bring Barbies to school. Needless to say, he was teased by most the kids in his class. I guess technically it would not be considered emotional abuse, but it sure is setting a kid up for emotional abuse by his peers.

This psycho mom is an extreme example of this attitude, but I've met others with similar ideas but not nearly as insane.
 
I don't know, I only met her a few times when she picked up her kid. IMO that would be a likely explanation, though I've met a few guys wimpy enough to let their wives get away with this sort of thing.

I knew another woman, much better than I knew this one, who would not let her kids have any toy guns, she'd even go as far as to take the toy guns out of the Playmobile sets she'd buy her kids and tell them they did not come with any. Interestingly she left the spears, bows, and tomahawks for the Indians. :D These kids had a different reaction, one that is seen in gun control zones. They'd steal toy guns from other kids and hide them from their mom. They also made their own rubber band guns and hid them outside in a yard too big for her to search. She just did the anti-gun thing, not the Barbie doll thing.
 
Benjamin Liu said:
I knew another woman, much better than I knew this one, who would not let her kids have any toy guns, she'd even go as far as to take the toy guns out of the Playmobile sets she'd buy her kids and tell them they did not come with any.
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There was a famous airport incident where a woman had a GI Joe doll she'd bought for her grandson, but the inspector insisted on confiscating the rifle, since even replica firearms were forbidden.

The term "brain-dead" comes to mind. :rolleyes:
 
Benjamin Liu said:
These kids had a different reaction, one that is seen in gun control zones. They'd steal toy guns from other kids and hide them from their mom. They also made their own rubber band guns and hid them outside in a yard too big for her to search.
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Yessss! If you ever see them again, high-five them for me :thumbup:
 
My wife's sister tried the whole "no violent toys will make them peaceniks" kind of thing. Her youngest kid took a piece of toast and bit it into the shape of a gun. Bang! Bang!

And, years later, her oldest ended up a Marine; served in Iraq. Another score for no toy guns!
 
Ha! I love it. Both of my sisters have had their youngest join the Corps. Neither of them are particularly enamored of the military.

But both of their youngest decided to follow their uncle into the Marines. (who supplied them with Ka Bars) :D

My family doesn't get my knife habit, my business, or my trips to visit Mr. Keating and Mr. Worden. But they have made it a habit to depend on me to have a knife or gun when I'm around.
 
A guy posted about a school campout and his plan to take his “banned” knife, kept out of sight, for “emergency survival.” Later he posts how helpful his knife was to the guides. He just couldn’t resist showing off that knife.

A while back a famous “pickup line” was “want to come up and see my etchings.” Of course the word “etchings” could be replaced with any number “somethings”

“Kramer” of Seinfield fame was dragged off stage in the middle of his comedy routine because of using “racist language.” He failed to read his audience.

I watched a ill coworker open a brief case and I was shocked seeing at least twenty medicine bottles. In a medicine chest or drawer my shock would have been a lot milder.

My round about point is - read your audience, make sure she’s receptive to seeing your “etchings” and for Pete"s sake, find a classy way to do a display instead of the gun case on your bed.

A hint that works, refer to your collection as “cutlery” and connect individual pieces to their use as a tool.

It’s bad advice to have a “tough if they don’t like it” attitude about sheeple because they are the same people that will vote away your right to carry or collect knives. That may be reality within the next 20 years.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
There was a famous airport incident where a woman had a GI Joe doll she'd bought for her grandson, but the inspector insisted on confiscating the rifle, since even replica firearms were forbidden.

The term "brain-dead" comes to mind. :rolleyes:
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The vision of a guy holding a very tiny toy rifle to his shoulder while committing a dastardly deed comes to mine...:D
 
Ramm9 said:
“Kramer” of Seinfield fame was dragged off stage in the middle of his comedy routine because of using “racist language.” He failed to read his audience.
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That whole incident reminded me of another audience heckler situation, in which the late-great George Carlin informed his audience that the guy was just making a big fuss because he wanted a particular object jammed into his mouth to block the noise. He then told the audience member, in detail, how he would kill and maim his family if he didn't quiet down or leave the theater.

Not that I'm making excuses for what's-his-Kramer; but Carlin was able to get away with saying some really nasty things to an audience member, and still get laughs while doing it. Whereas, Michael Richards practically got drummed out of show buisness. Because, like Ramm said, he couldn't read his audience, and doesn't have the same knack Carlin did for dealing with "objectionable language" in a way that's funny.

Point being: Maybe it's better to expect "non-knife" people to be prejudiced, and have prejudicial opinions about people who carry and use knives.

Maybe even treat them like they're "racist" in their own way. With a little bit of outrage, but mostly just letting them know that they're being ridiculous and even offensive by inferring that you're prone to violence simply because you own and carry a pocketknife.

It's a deep-set prejudice, and like almost all prejudice it's completely irrational, self-reinforcing view on a particular group of people, in this case knife users. There's no point in just being nasty to people who don't understand why you carry a knife. That just reinforces the prejudice.

The only way to deal with it is to offer reasonable explanations, and go out of your way to be pleasant, but make it clear you have the same right to be free of prejudice and intolerance that any other group of people does.
 
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it's funny to me that some of you have mentioned kids moms not letting them have toy guns, my mom tried to do that with me until she realised it was totally futile, I would take everything I could get my hands on from sticks to PVC pipe to make my own toy guns, hell the PVC one was way better than any of the actual toy ones anyway.
And now, well, I've been a Marine for close to 5 years now, infantry to boot. Thank God my Moms attemps at brainwashing me did not work.
And as for people who get scared when they know someone has a knife...I just don't get it.
 
When i was in 5th grade, our Dare officer told us to bring all our toy guns in (if it was alright with out parents) Then she put then in a big plastic bag and has the kids jump on them on them... Wow.
 
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