DIY Basic Backpack-able .22 rifle

Wow thats a neat idea. I am gonna have to go see what my local shop has lyin around for cheap!:thumbup: Thanks man!

Legal issue would be the only thing. Anyone know?:confused:
 
I have a little ar -7 they are fun. I'd like to make that smaller version. can someoen post a tech drawing if you make it?
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BOOMSTICK said:
I have a little ar -7 they are fun. I'd like to make that smaller version. can someoen post a tech drawing if you make it?
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now thats pretty impressive right there, minus the fact of nice to have cool factor or you are a professional hitman. Personally I don't think a .22 needs to be broken down, I wold be afraid of screwing up the threading. If it was going to be my shtf gun.
 
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I have one of these. I'm not into carrying rifles in my backpack for any reason but it is a really small portable .22

Model: M62C
Caliber: .22 LR
Capacity: 12
Barrel Length: 16-1/2"
Action: PUMP
Overall Length: 32-1/2"
Weight: 72 oz
 
Hi HD, coincedentally, I just shot one of those 22 pumps in early October at a friend's farm. It was fun, accurate and lightweight.

I'm not advocating people should carry a 22 rifle or anything else in their backpack when simply out fun hiking or overnighting, in fact, if they are in a National Park, State Park or State Forest it may be verboten.

I had just seen that kind of survival discussion so many times,
I thought I'd show it around. It solves the weight and compactibility problems to a great extent.

It strikes me as a survival small-game-getter type of tool.
 
SkunkWerX said:
Hi HD, coincedentally, I just shot one of those 22 pumps in early October at a friend's farm. It was fun, accurate and lightweight.

I'm not advocating people should carry a 22 rifle or anything else in their backpack when simply out fun hiking or overnighting, in fact, if they are in a National Park, State Park or State Forest it may be verboten.

I had just seen that kind of survival discussion so many times,
I thought I'd show it around. It solves the weight and compactibility problems to a great extent.

It strikes me as a survival small-game-getter type of tool.
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Yeah they are a lot of fun. My wife's mom sews and I'm hoping maybe for Christmas I can get her to make me a padded case that will hold the rifle taken apart and my Ruger Mark 1. Every now and then I take both of those with me places when there are kids who have never shot before and let them try them out cause they are small and easy to shoot:thumbup:
 
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Thats awesome HD. I love teaching and watching kids shoot, and their faces light up when they hit what they aimed at. Good stuff.
 
j williams said:
Wow thats a neat idea. I am gonna have to go see what my local shop has lyin around for cheap!:thumbup: Thanks man!

Legal issue would be the only thing. Anyone know?:confused:
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I think if you got a cheap 22 it would be pretty easy. I was thinking about picking up one of those little cricket youth 22's for les then $100.

As far as legality I am no expert but unless you were shooting it broken down aren't you just carrying gun parts. The little henry survival rifles like the ones pictured are capable of firing without the stock.
 
im with you blake, I think it would be ok as long as you didnt try and shorten the barrels.
 
Just michigan law:
(k) “Short-barreled rifle” means a rifle having 1 or more barrels less than 16 inches in length or a weapon made from a rifle, whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise, if the weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches.
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Modifying guns is risky. In reality it's the carrying it around (in two peices), in your pack thats going to call attention to it. You don't carry your modified Savage aournd in the woods. Just be careful, because unlike the Henry rifle (factory)the DIY one is MODIFIED.
 
You can take the stock off most long arms and fire them. If I take the stock off my Sharps 45-70, it still aint a pistol...

ditto with my 870 shotgun, 1895 45-70 lever action, or my Savage bolt guns....
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Shotguns are usually categorized differently than rifles.

If the OAL of a rifle is less than 26"(?) when the stock is removed, and it can still fire, it falls under NFA regulations. May or may not be illegal in your jurisdiction. But at the federal level, a rifle fitting this description requires significant hoops to jump through in order to make it legal. Even if it's a DIY job.

Rifles that break down while rendering the firearm inoperable are generally OK. So the Marlin 39a or the AR-7 are OK.
 
shecky said:
Shotguns are usually categorized differently than rifles.

If the OAL of a rifle is less than 26"(?) when the stock is removed, and it can still fire, it falls under NFA regulations. May or may not be illegal in your jurisdiction. But at the federal level, a rifle fitting this description requires significant hoops to jump through in order to make it legal. Even if it's a DIY job.

Rifles that break down while rendering the firearm inoperable are generally OK. So the Marlin 39a or the AR-7 are OK.
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SHORT-BARRELED RIFLE - A rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made from a rifle if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. 18 USC

SHORT-BARRELED SHOTGUN - A shotgun having one or more barrels less than eighteen inches in length and any weapon made from a shotgun if such a weapon as modified has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches. 18 USC

Found that at Lectlaw.com, not sure if its current or what area but thats what I have heard multiple times.

On another note, isn't the rifle below capable of firing as is?

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My guess is that the best opions would be:

Receiver and barrel seperate or
Long barrel to make it oveR 26" w/o stock
Just get a pistol with a loong barrel
 
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On another note, isn't the rifle below capable of firing as is?
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Good question. My guess is that it's designed so that it won't fire without the stock attached. I do know the pistol version won't accept barrel of the rifle version, cross configurations that would make it subject to nfa regulations. So I figure if they were that conscientious, they probably also keep it from firing without the stock. I could be wrong, however.
 
I think a letter to the ATF Firearms Technology Branch might be in order.

I know they allow those GSG-5 carbines (the Mp-5 .22 clone), which are shipped with the buttstock detached and transfer as long guns. With the buttstock detached those are under 26".
 
Toxie said:
Just michigan law:
Modifying guns is risky. In reality it's the carrying it around (in two peices), in your pack thats going to call attention to it. You don't carry your modified Savage aournd in the woods. Just be careful, because unlike the Henry rifle (factory)the DIY one is MODIFIED.
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I don't think "modifying" means disassembling. Almost every gun I own will fire with absent the stock. And carrying a gun in a dissassembled state is probably encouraged. Hard to say that you are carrying a concealed weapon when the thing can't be used without sometime to reassemble it. Now if you had a fabricated pistol grip and front stock or it otherwise appeared that you intended to use it that way--say you were carrying it under a jacket attached to a cord used as a harness ala some of the gansters in the 20s-- you probably could be accused of modifying it.

Someone mentioned getting a pistol barrel. This is a no no. Your receiver is registered as either a rifle or a pistol. You can put a long barrel on a pistol but you cannot put a pistol barrel on a rifle receiver unless you go through any applicable SBR licensing.
 
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I have a papoose, anyone else have one?
I am wondering about taking advantage of the hollow stock for holding ammo, and wondering if they make magnum barrels for it.
 
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