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Originally posted by Easyrider
I would walk with a funny limp if I didn't have my EDC on me.
But then I thought to myself...
"How true!"
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But then I thought to myself...
"How true!"
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Great thread! Mostly has given me a come back argument for those who ask "Why do you always carry a knife (knives)?
One grandfather carried a .38, everywhere, he was a wildcatter in east Texas. A pistol was considered an EDC, part of the profession.
The other granfather was a wood worker and ran the wood shop on a military base. His EDC was a Barlow knife, again part of his profession.
EDC has been redfined in this thread. It never occured to me that photons, tape measures, cell phones, "chip on the shoulder
, etc. were EDC's, but they are. Depends on personal perspective, job, usuage etc.
I also walked out of the Apt a few days ago, got about 5 blocks, and realized that I did not have my EDC or any!!! knife on me. I also turned around and went back, feeling very chagrined (ie, how could I have done that!).
You just gotta love this forum for some of these great threads.
Rad
Oh almost forgot...as Pwork said...
One grandfather carried a .38, everywhere, he was a wildcatter in east Texas. A pistol was considered an EDC, part of the profession.
The other granfather was a wood worker and ran the wood shop on a military base. His EDC was a Barlow knife, again part of his profession.
EDC has been redfined in this thread. It never occured to me that photons, tape measures, cell phones, "chip on the shoulder
, etc. were EDC's, but they are. Depends on personal perspective, job, usuage etc.I also walked out of the Apt a few days ago, got about 5 blocks, and realized that I did not have my EDC or any!!! knife on me. I also turned around and went back, feeling very chagrined (ie, how could I have done that!).
You just gotta love this forum for some of these great threads.
Rad
Oh almost forgot...as Pwork said...
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YES! We do need our EDC's. I may not need the vast amount of EDC's that I have collected over the years, but I happen to use a knife daily. I have also brought at least a dozen guys at the shop I work at over to the "light" of having a knife on them to use daily. These people that once wondered why I always have knives on me, now carry daily and wonder why others don't. As of a week ago, my lady of 23 years had put up with my knife love and even given me some as gifts, but had never wanted one of her own. I bought her a purple Benchmade Mini Griptilian for her birthday. It has been in her pocket since and she has stopped asking me to cut things open for her. When she is at the bird feeders and needs to open those thick plastic bags or those multi layered heavy paper bird food bags, I see the Benchmade come out and slice the bag open,(with a little grin on her face) 
. I guess most people just do not realize how useful the EDC could be until they actually own one.
. I guess most people just do not realize how useful the EDC could be until they actually own one. 
This is because relatively few people carry a knife, these days. The question to ask 25 people is how many times *could* you have used a pocket knife, had you had one at your disposal. I've been everything from a cop to a stockbroker to a winery tour guide and used a pocket knife frequently, some jobs requires it more than others.
Virtually *everyone* in every profession can use a pocket knife in place of a half dozen other tools. If you do nothing but sit at your desk all day, with scissors, staple remover, letter opener, fingernail file, etc, in a handy drawer, than maybe you don't need a knife. Until you get to your car. My 2 cents. YMMV
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As a field biologist, by training and professional experience, you wouldnt start a work day without an EDC on hand. Nary a day goes by when you wouldnt need to trim a boat line (rope), skin, gut, or be-head a critter, or repair a net, etc. Ive used my EDC to tune boat engines, dig out coded wire tags from the heads of 20-30 lb salmon, strip and shine up electrical wires, perform minor surgery, and generally keep things running on track.
Now, even though I am chained to a desk now, I still use my EDC on a regular basis. For example, I always use my EDC to open letters. And, for record keeping and covering-my-ass I often need to cut the entire envelope front to attach it with the postmark stamp to the letter (to preserve the postmark with the letter should disputes arise over when a letter was sent/received). This task is MUCH easier accomplished with a blade than a pair of scissors.
I guess my EDC is as necessary and functional a tool as the wristwatch on my arm.
TT2Toes
Now, even though I am chained to a desk now, I still use my EDC on a regular basis. For example, I always use my EDC to open letters. And, for record keeping and covering-my-ass I often need to cut the entire envelope front to attach it with the postmark stamp to the letter (to preserve the postmark with the letter should disputes arise over when a letter was sent/received). This task is MUCH easier accomplished with a blade than a pair of scissors.
I guess my EDC is as necessary and functional a tool as the wristwatch on my arm.
TT2Toes
Many people who start to carry a knife find that they find it most useful, even those who think it is ridiculous!
Case in point my wife. When we were dating I gave her a purple sak writer. She soon found that it most useful for a myriad of tasks. Then this year she wanted a new one handed liner lock for camping, she said she wanted a bigger knife. Now she has two saks' a scallion, a buck one hander, and an orion, no too mention a small kershaw gentlemens folder in rosewood (I believe).
Then there is my mother-in-law whom I gave a sak classic to, in white so it would match her white suv! Now she says that she did not know how she got along without it.
case in point?!?
Case in point my wife. When we were dating I gave her a purple sak writer. She soon found that it most useful for a myriad of tasks. Then this year she wanted a new one handed liner lock for camping, she said she wanted a bigger knife. Now she has two saks' a scallion, a buck one hander, and an orion, no too mention a small kershaw gentlemens folder in rosewood (I believe).
Then there is my mother-in-law whom I gave a sak classic to, in white so it would match her white suv! Now she says that she did not know how she got along without it.
case in point?!?
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Your compassion for your fellow man astounds me. lol.
As to whether or not we need EDC knives...OF COURSE! My knife isn't there because I need to use it everyday. Its there because when I need it, I want to have it available. Obviously most of us on this forum own far more knives than is truly necessary for utilitarian purposes. I'm sure I could just get by with only one good knife, but having more makes me happy, so why not. It would certainly be quite difficult to get by without at least one though.
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Access to a knife is vital and rudimentary for many tasks, as we have seen here. So why don't more people carry them ??
Why ? Because many "unbeknown people" think of knives as weapons and NOT tools.
They've been tools since the year dot and should continue to be so.
Just my two pence worth.
Why ? Because many "unbeknown people" think of knives as weapons and NOT tools.
They've been tools since the year dot and should continue to be so.
Just my two pence worth.
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Murnax:
Compassion for those who have no forethought to their own needs on a daily basis?
If they won't consider carrying one themselmes I see no reason to be a mule to these people by carrying what they need for them.
The general masses have primarily moved away from being self sufficient in this country [ like our forefathers ] and instead rely on others to protect them from harm or be willing to assist them when they need it.
The man who won't carry a knife [ and I mean a pocket knife like a Swiss army knife ]because he feels people shouldn't have/carry knives [ same people who don't think we should carry guns either usually ], should not be asking me to use mine when they find the need for one.
I get " can you cut this for me?" or " can you open this for me?" all the time as they know I have a knife on me. They don't even ask to use it themselves most of the time. These sheeple need to realize I'm not there for their comfort nor do I carry a knife to be loaned or used for anothers purpose.
If they find they need a knife they should go buy one and not become reliant on mine.
Hard line? ---- sure it is, no more so than for the man who won't arm himself but would expect me to assist him while he was being robbed because I have one on me.
Not everyone wishes to carry a knife and thats fine by me, we all have choices to make. To each his own, but I see no need to further their nonfeasant dependancy on me.
These are the same people who will look at you strangely when they learn you carry one [ or two ]
I've given knives to people who continuously ask for mine and they refuse to carry it with them, and continue to ask for mine.
No way--I'll buy them a knife before I'll loan mine to them and be their mule.
Brownie
Compassion for those who have no forethought to their own needs on a daily basis?
If they won't consider carrying one themselmes I see no reason to be a mule to these people by carrying what they need for them.
The general masses have primarily moved away from being self sufficient in this country [ like our forefathers ] and instead rely on others to protect them from harm or be willing to assist them when they need it.
The man who won't carry a knife [ and I mean a pocket knife like a Swiss army knife ]because he feels people shouldn't have/carry knives [ same people who don't think we should carry guns either usually ], should not be asking me to use mine when they find the need for one.
I get " can you cut this for me?" or " can you open this for me?" all the time as they know I have a knife on me. They don't even ask to use it themselves most of the time. These sheeple need to realize I'm not there for their comfort nor do I carry a knife to be loaned or used for anothers purpose.
If they find they need a knife they should go buy one and not become reliant on mine.
Hard line? ---- sure it is, no more so than for the man who won't arm himself but would expect me to assist him while he was being robbed because I have one on me.
Not everyone wishes to carry a knife and thats fine by me, we all have choices to make. To each his own, but I see no need to further their nonfeasant dependancy on me.
These are the same people who will look at you strangely when they learn you carry one [ or two ]
I've given knives to people who continuously ask for mine and they refuse to carry it with them, and continue to ask for mine.
No way--I'll buy them a knife before I'll loan mine to them and be their mule.
Brownie
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Originally posted by yobbos1
Could be worse...
We COULD be all hooked on beanie babies
And therein lies the best reason to always have a knife handy, to cut the heads off Beanie Babies whenever and wherever we find them...
Hmmm, not very PC, is it...
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OK, well, as i lay in bed listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn's excellent version of Hendrix' "Little Wing" which i downloaded last night for free, and am anxiously waiting for my new Mike Obenauf folder which FedEx should be bringing momentarily, I got to thinking about the question...
I think the need for a knife in your daily routine varies person to person and does depend a lot on what type of environment you live and work in. If you live and or work in a rural area, yes, youll need a knife more often, certain jobs will require the use of a knife more than others, its not often a lawyer will need a knife, unless he's stabbing someone in the back...
I admit, im one of those people who honestly doesnt need a knife too often throughout the day, BUT, then again, there certainly are times i do, and thats why i have 2 with me at all times, neither of which is inconvienient to carry, one is a fossil serrated shark tooth i wear as a pendant, works like a charm for opening boxes or packages, or even the errant string, if i need something more, i have my Blackwood Ti CC knife in my wallet. Between these 2, i have no need to carry a "real" knife when im out and about. I do however, fairly often need a real knife when im at home, and believe me, i have PLENTY of them around the house, and since i work from home and dont go out all that much, i suppose in a way, my EDC's are simply various knives spread out over the house. In fact, i have one knife strategically placed in each room.
The one thing i truly would feel naked without as i leave the house is some sort of gun, and here, we're not talking about utility of course, but the ability to defend myself, and thats something i take seriously.
So, yes, i tend to agree with the original poster, i do think up reasons to carry and use knives to justify purchasing more and more and more... Yes, i could get by with my shark tooth and CC knife, and maybe a cheapie in the house, but then i wouldnt have much of a collection, now would I?
I think the need for a knife in your daily routine varies person to person and does depend a lot on what type of environment you live and work in. If you live and or work in a rural area, yes, youll need a knife more often, certain jobs will require the use of a knife more than others, its not often a lawyer will need a knife, unless he's stabbing someone in the back...
I admit, im one of those people who honestly doesnt need a knife too often throughout the day, BUT, then again, there certainly are times i do, and thats why i have 2 with me at all times, neither of which is inconvienient to carry, one is a fossil serrated shark tooth i wear as a pendant, works like a charm for opening boxes or packages, or even the errant string, if i need something more, i have my Blackwood Ti CC knife in my wallet. Between these 2, i have no need to carry a "real" knife when im out and about. I do however, fairly often need a real knife when im at home, and believe me, i have PLENTY of them around the house, and since i work from home and dont go out all that much, i suppose in a way, my EDC's are simply various knives spread out over the house. In fact, i have one knife strategically placed in each room.
The one thing i truly would feel naked without as i leave the house is some sort of gun, and here, we're not talking about utility of course, but the ability to defend myself, and thats something i take seriously.
So, yes, i tend to agree with the original poster, i do think up reasons to carry and use knives to justify purchasing more and more and more... Yes, i could get by with my shark tooth and CC knife, and maybe a cheapie in the house, but then i wouldnt have much of a collection, now would I?
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Well, this was a good thread, right up until "beanie babies" and then everyone just sort of went silly...
I mean what's wrong with beanie babies, they are definatley sheeple friendly, they come in assorted flavours and colours, and they are inexpensive. For home protection just offer beanie babies, doesn't have to be halloween everyday, right? A beanie baby on every keychain? Sure why not, excellent EDC.
But yeah, I kind of like the idea of cutting heads off of beanie babies. Never mind PC, just sounds like fun.
Sigh...I'm as sick as others in this thread. Am going to bed, not posting no more.
Rad
(say, you suppose CRK could do a custom beanie baby inlay on a sebbie?) Yeah right, I can just see someone asking a custom knife maker "Hey can you make me a blade shaped like a beanie baby?" "I think it will have good recurve action"
I mean what's wrong with beanie babies, they are definatley sheeple friendly, they come in assorted flavours and colours, and they are inexpensive. For home protection just offer beanie babies, doesn't have to be halloween everyday, right? A beanie baby on every keychain? Sure why not, excellent EDC.
But yeah, I kind of like the idea of cutting heads off of beanie babies. Never mind PC, just sounds like fun.
Sigh...I'm as sick as others in this thread. Am going to bed, not posting no more.
Rad
(say, you suppose CRK could do a custom beanie baby inlay on a sebbie?) Yeah right, I can just see someone asking a custom knife maker "Hey can you make me a blade shaped like a beanie baby?" "I think it will have good recurve action"
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A couple of interesting answers upthread about "need".
Personally, I carry at least 2 knives, and usually a multi-tool within reach. My Leatherman Wave is used for all of my computer hardware tasks (swapping motherboards, cards, powersupply fans, etc). I had a ratcheting screwdriver that broke, and I've become very proficient with using a multi tool for these tasks. Plus, I don't have to carry around a tool pouch or box everywhere I go. My knives consist of a large (> 3") and a small (< 3") knife for everyday task (cutting open coffee bags, opening boxes, cutting static bags, cable ties, food, etc). I also carry an Inova, because computer cases and under desks are dark places, and when the power goes out (as is common for my geography) it's handy to be able to get to the servers in the dark.
Do I "need" these tools to do my job? Pretty much "yes". I suppose I could use my fingernails and teeth, and improvise screwdrivers, but thats pretty damn inefficient, and probably costlier in the long run, due to dental/medical bills...
Do I "need" these tools to be a citizen? I guess not, but it sure makes me a lot more independent, and functional. Maybe that's the problem with being prepared? You don't need the system as much. It's sad when you are looked at with suspicion for carrying a knife, multitool, flashlight, pen and lighter. I just thought it made sense.
I guess I'd be wary of someone carrying a scalpel, a stun gun, a bag of lye and a shovel, though, so I guess it comes down to what you're comfortable with. I use most of my EDC equipment daily. Making it ideal for Every Day Carry. I don't particularly carry what I don't usually need, and I think what I carry is reasonable for what I do. Sheeple often disagree. Sigh.
Regards,
Shaun.
Personally, I carry at least 2 knives, and usually a multi-tool within reach. My Leatherman Wave is used for all of my computer hardware tasks (swapping motherboards, cards, powersupply fans, etc). I had a ratcheting screwdriver that broke, and I've become very proficient with using a multi tool for these tasks. Plus, I don't have to carry around a tool pouch or box everywhere I go. My knives consist of a large (> 3") and a small (< 3") knife for everyday task (cutting open coffee bags, opening boxes, cutting static bags, cable ties, food, etc). I also carry an Inova, because computer cases and under desks are dark places, and when the power goes out (as is common for my geography) it's handy to be able to get to the servers in the dark.
Do I "need" these tools to do my job? Pretty much "yes". I suppose I could use my fingernails and teeth, and improvise screwdrivers, but thats pretty damn inefficient, and probably costlier in the long run, due to dental/medical bills...
Do I "need" these tools to be a citizen? I guess not, but it sure makes me a lot more independent, and functional. Maybe that's the problem with being prepared? You don't need the system as much. It's sad when you are looked at with suspicion for carrying a knife, multitool, flashlight, pen and lighter. I just thought it made sense.
I guess I'd be wary of someone carrying a scalpel, a stun gun, a bag of lye and a shovel, though, so I guess it comes down to what you're comfortable with. I use most of my EDC equipment daily. Making it ideal for Every Day Carry. I don't particularly carry what I don't usually need, and I think what I carry is reasonable for what I do. Sheeple often disagree. Sigh.
Regards,
Shaun.
It seems that every morning I have to cut some tape at the office, and every evening I cut the butt of a cigar, and there´s often other cutting tasks in between, so yes, I have a use for an EDC knife.
I too carry two knives plus a multitool, plus lighter, plus LED fashlight, plus several pens and pencils including a fountain pen and yes, I often use them.
I too carry two knives plus a multitool, plus lighter, plus LED fashlight, plus several pens and pencils including a fountain pen and yes, I often use them.
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Well, not long ago I used to be a non-knife person, and I went through my day without too much trouble, sometimes I had to use my teeth to open a bag or something. The only real problem is those containers that some electronics are packaged in these days. You either need a knife or a chainsaw to open those!
So the answer is yes, you do need a knife for daily carry.
So the answer is yes, you do need a knife for daily carry.