Do you keep a give away BOB?

Raisedby wolves said:
I already suggested to my friends that they get prepared.

When I get the patent response "If something happens, I'll just come to your house" I always give the same response "If you do, the only thing you will get is shot."

Not my responsibility to prepare for someone who didn't do it themselves when they were warned and I offered to help.

Carl-
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So what if a close family member showed up in an emergency, bleeding and in need of aid - your response would be "should have prepared for that bro" Come on. We can all wax about the people who will "show" up, but my thought is I still have to live with the people around me, near by me during an emergency. Keep a low profile, and help those who would do the same if the shoes were on the other feet.
 
Codger_64 said:
I guess it is a generational difference for the most part. "I...me...my...mine" is not how I was taught to think. Of course my mentors were from an even earlier generation. Granpa survived the Great Depression after the Flood Of '27 wiped him out. Dad survived WWII from Overloard thru Tokyo Bay, and "Uncle "D.L. was a survivor of Bataan. Sometimes we help ourselves best by helping others. Or at least that is what I was taught last century.
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Amen. You don't have to be older to have been raised that way - this youngin took the lessons of his grandfather seriously.
 
Smash05 said:
So what if a close family member showed up in an emergency, bleeding and in need of aid - your response would be "should have prepared for that bro" Come on. We can all wax about the people who will "show" up, but my thought is I still have to live with the people around me, near by me during an emergency. Keep a low profile, and help those who would do the same if the shoes were on the other feet.
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A post I can agree with. A like-minded group of people is almost always better than an individual in a dire circumstance. It can mean someone to watch your back. Maybe they have some skills or items that can improve your situation.

Example: You have all the "stuff" you could want but get a badly infected cut... that old "useless eater" couple next door hapens to have enough meds to open a pharmacy... including antibiotics. Heck, back in his younger days, he was a medic and still remembers a thing or two.
 
Bleeding and in need of help, I would help them to the best of my abilities. (unless it was my sister the antichrist, but that's another story)

But I am not going to prepare a pack ahead of time for someone that I already had this discussion with.

What are YOU going to do when 3 family members and 7 co-workers show up as refugees, bleeding and hungry because you are the "prepared" guy. You don't have to have told them how much "stuff" you have stored. If there is any indication whatsoever that you are prepared for power outages or you have discussed a BOB with them, believe me, they are heading your way when TSHTF.

You gonna empty your stock supply to 10 extra people who didn't heed your advice or are you now going to prepare 10 spare BOB's and stockpile enough food for them too? Where are you going to draw the line?

Of course we are going to band together with loved ones and neighbors to help each other out. We would not be human if we didn't. And as said before, sharing services will be key to survival. But like the saying goes, "give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach him to fish...."

But heck, if you guys want to put together backup BOB's, go for it! Hope you have small families because it's going to be like 5 guys in a damaged plane with 2 parachutes if something happens.

Carl-
 
I understand your perspective, but disagree with the conclusions. IF I had 30 days food for myself and ten people showed up, I would ration it out and feed them all. Meanwhile, I would take a skills/gear survey and put them all to work doing things to improve the situation for everyone. Some ladies/women/girls/guys have a knack for stretching a few groceries into a feast by adding a few staples you might not think of. If it is safe to do so, set some of them to foraging. Put others to building things.

30 days of full food rations for one man can be stretched further than one might believe. And no one will starve in a few weeks. Longer term? You have your own militia/scavenger/security team.
 
I dont keep one but could make one out of the extra supplies I have on hand. I gave one to my brother recently.
 
if folks don't care enough about their own safety to do some basic preps, then I am sorry, I can't help them.
 
Mine is in three shoulder carry Bags for the wife and I. I don't have a spare but I have a well stocked p;ace to go if the SHTF
 
Is gonna last a week, 2 max for 10 people if you stretch it, but I get your point.

Can't say I completely agree, but to each their own. I am willing to share and would help those in need, but I would stop short of compromising my immediate families well being. Besides, people can turn ugly when they get scared and hungry and I hate sleeping with one eye open.

BTW, if my sister the antichrist shows up at your door, i'm warning you now, don't let her in. You'll be sorry. LOL

Carl-
 
Codger_64 said:
I understand your perspective, but disagree with the conclusions. IF I had 30 days food for myself and ten people showed up, I would ration it out and feed them all. Meanwhile, I would take a skills/gear survey and put them all to work doing things to improve the situation for everyone. Some ladies/women/girls/guys have a knack for stretching a few groceries into a feast by adding a few staples you might not think of. If it is safe to do so, set some of them to foraging. Put others to building things.

30 days of full food rations for one man can be stretched further than one might believe. And no one will starve in a few weeks. Longer term? You have your own militia/scavenger/security team.
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That's how a true leader thinks. :thumbup: Of course, not everyone is cut out for that role or should put themselves in it. There also has to be some guidelines. If they don't cooperate, they're cut off.
 
Codger_64 said:
I guess it is a generational difference for the most part. "I...me...my...mine" is not how I was taught to think.
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I don't think any decent person would want to turn away someone in need during a disaster, but you have to be realistic. If I feel I can safely help them (even the annoying neighbor who I can't stand) I will. However, if things are truly dire, I'm not taking food out of my family's mouth to feed some freeloader, nor am I putting myself or my loved ones in danger by taking someone I don't know into my refuge. :grumpy:

I would not feel good about myself if I had to turn them away, but I don't have unlimited funds or room to stockpile food and supplies for the whole neighborhood. Realistically there is only so much I can do without compromising the safety of the people I have a duty to protect. If that means someone who didn't prepare has to suffer.... that is their fault, not mine. :(
 
If the "Leader" of my group suggested we give away all our resources to anyone that showed up and hoped we could find a worthwhile task for them to do, I think I would suggest another "Leader" be chosen.

Compassion, yes. Helping neighbors, sure. Sharing services, great idea. Depleting my families resources to people that I already talked to about the subject and/or any other refugee that walks down the way...........Nah, I am going to be kinda cold-hearted on that one.


Carl-
 
One does not have to "break the bank" to prepare to help your immediate family and a few neighbors or even strangers, You can help them even without assuming responsibility for their lives.

... An weary, ragged woman knocks on your door and stands there with a thin, scared young child in her arms. She asks you for water, maybe something for her child to eat. Yes, it is her fault for not preparing to feed herself and her child in a disaster she didn't forsee. Maybe someone did tell her to prepare and she didn't. Maybe her now dead family did prepare but they and their supplies didn't survive whatever happened. Does it endanger your family to hand her a can of tuna and a bottle of water? Or to hand her a tiny bag of kit and shut the door?
 
Smash05 said:
For say a family member or a neighbor if things got rough. I am thinking in the realm of a Katrina or Natural Disaster. I have thought about this at length and I am going to create one. If anything, it can serve as extra kit for my family needs, but I keep thinking that I live close to my Brother in Law and his family, and I would feel compelled to help him if he showed up on my door and needed gear. I certainly have enough random gear around to make it happen without additional investment. I have also thought through what where I would send someone if they needed to buy kit quickly. Discuss.
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I always have an extra pack with some kit in it...ya just never know, and anybody that's going to tag along with me is going to pull some weight.
 
Codger_64 said:
Does it endanger your family to hand her a can of tuna and a bottle of water? Or to hand her a tiny bag of kit and shut the door?
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I'm not going to pull out the shotgun and run off everyone who comes to my door. Like I said, if I can help without compromising the safety of the family/friends I commited to helping I'll gladly do what I can for someone honestly in need. So, in your scenario I would probably give her what I could in the way of water, food, etc. Depending on the circumstances I might do even more.

I'm just saying you realistically have to draw the line somewhere. You can't feel an absolute obligation to help every irresponsible fool who knocks on your door.
 
We live in an agricultural area, but also a university town. The local friends are a mix of "can you help me mount my license plate, I don't have a screwdriver" and "you only have a 10 quart canner? poor thing, come on by and use our 16 quart!"

I have spare bob supplies, including bags, but haven't put together and giveaway kits. That's not a bad idea. I'm going to see what I can do about that. Excellent community support.
 
I have supplies for about one year for 4 people. That would be food- water - medicine -ammo etc. There is just the two of us- but we have family all around us. Making up several extra bags won't cost much and I can just toss them in my action packers for when folks might need them.:thumbup: I sure don't mind sharing and helping others. It gives me a good feeling and this is what commuinty is all about:). Thanks for the idea:thumbup:
 
How about this for consideration, a few years back when the Delaware spilled it's banks along with the other creeks and streams in the area.

I was sleepin' when the phone rang about 5:30 am, it was my neighbor from a mile down the road, (my street is 2 1/2 miles long with a stream/creek zigzaggin' across the floor of the valley I live in. The phone call was to alert me to the fast risin' waters and the mud slides that were startin' to block the valley in.

Now I don't know why but of the 10 homes on my street 9 of 'em had no power, phone or cable, my house was above flood stage and I had all the amenities a home owner could want, along with 25 people who had none of those things also in my house.

My home became a command center for the street as wifes contacted husbands and other family members to notify them of their where abouts and condition of their houses.

For three days every inch of my home was filled with kids, pets and people, lucily we had two grills and lots of coolers along with one freezer and two refridgerator/freezers, three bathrooms and well water.

We took care of everyone till they could either get back home or to a family members house.

My point to all of this is suppose they all come to you with their food and supplies, is there a BIB, (Bug in Bag) for when ya gotta stay home and help the neighbors and extended family?

Every SHTF scenario is gonna be different and priorities reestablished as needed.

I didn't expect all those people in my home but when they started showin' up I did what had to be done, now if I lived in the inner city and all my supplies were all I had, I might think differently but then I'll address that situation as it arises knowin' I'm capable of doin; what ever is called for.
 
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