Do you think Spyderco is wrong?

There were many reasons for taking some of the names off of some of the models. Many mentioned here.

Aggressive names do not serve. Classification names like "Police" seem to be more important to the dealers than the customers.

The Rescues still list name & size, the Salts have their "names" on the blade.

I don't know if it a "wrong" or "right" thing. We think at this time, it is probably more beneficial to make the changes we're making.

sal
 
I read something along this line in a self defense article in a knife mag a couple of years ago. They advised against carrying a knife with a fierce or threatening name.
 
Sal, can you say yet if the military will still carry it's name ? The reason is I have one of the older ones that was engraved on the blade and wondered if this will be all there is ? Thanks.

Robbie Roberson ;)
 
That must certainly be an assault hammer.

Steps must be taken to safeguard the citizens.

Think of the children!

LMAO
 
Reminds me of a brand of fishing rod called 'ugly stick'

Hey Sal I reckon you should go down the road of the surf wax manufacturers with names like 'sex wax' and 'Mrs Palmers (and her five daughters).

'Sal's Love Tool' - now that's a name for a knife :D

I've had a few people take the 'Military' name as a wannabe chaiborne commando fantasy which gets in the way of what an amazingly useful knife this is - unecessary in my opinion. I can do without the name on the blade and even tried to sand it off mine - but it's a tenacious bugger...
 
I like that hammer! I may have to get one!! Anyhoo, I could do without a lot of writing on the blade, just because. Personally, its one of the reasons I didn't like the Spyker when it first came out. Say, does this mean that the Busse Aragonne (sp?) Assault would be more acceptable if it were named something like "the big fuzzy pink happy stick"?

-Oh, and the Harvard student was a fixed blade I believe. He got a lot of REALLY negative press here. Of course he was wrong for getting into it with people while drunk. If he'd just gone home and went to bed he'd have been much better off.

-Anthony
 
Robbie Roberson said:
Sal, can you say yet if the military will still carry it's name ? The reason is I have one of the older ones that was engraved on the blade and wondered if this will be all there is ? Thanks.
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I'm not Sal, but the new Military sans "Military" is already out. There are a few improvements too. See this
 
I think I read somewhere that Strider names their knives the way they do to make them more lawyer proof.

IMHO, military-type names (Ka-Bar USMC, Microtech Socom, SOG Seal 2000, etc.) have been used to death and are boring now anyway. I prefer the more colorful names like:

Dodo, Scarab, Makora, Manix, Salsa, Stretch, Nomad, Apparition, Sculptura...

and interesting names like that anyway.

.
 
Ming65 said:
'Sal's Love Tool' - now that's a name for a knife :D
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Oh, hell yeah! :D

Seriously, I don't know what it is about knives and the really stupid names that some makers give them. Take for example (I believe Linton knives makes it) "The Killing Claw" :thumbdn: . What kind of stupid @ss name is that?! :barf:

As far as the Spyderco's go, I don't see a problem with the names "Military" and "Police", but all the same, I work for a PD, have 13 Spyderco's, yet do not have a "Police" model. Why, you might ask. Because it says "Police" on the blade. I just don't want to carry a knife with a reference to my occupation written on the blade. Some guys feel differently, and I can definitely respect that. Now, after Spyderco takes the names off of the blades, I just may get one.

I remember when I got my first Benchmade, a 975 (Emerson CQC7 design), a buddy of mine asked me what "CQC" stood for. I told him it meant "Custom Quality Cutlery", because I was too embarrased to admit that it stood for "Close Quarters Combat". The "Specwar design" writing didn't help my little fib any either. :foot:

I think Spyderco made a smart move, and I'm sure the value of the marked "Police" and "Military" models will go way up as well.

Best wishes,
3Guardsmen
 
Sal Glesser said:
We think at this time, it is probably more beneficial to make the changes we're making.

sal
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I hope, you do think so! :D :D

To the topic:

I agree, that it is simply enough to name a knife in the cataloc. To me there is no need for the name on the blade. Instead of this i am more lucky if it just has the logo and steel grade on it.

I remember, many years ago i bought some shoes because they were cheap. They were named "streetfighter". Can you imagine i didn´t wear them for long? :D :D

I think, Spyderco did a good favour to the customer and themselves in many aspects.
 
These kind of things always amaze me. Certain phrases and/or key words are ok one day and 'the next' not so. Of course I am talking years here rather than days. :o

I believe it's ultimatley about "perception" and how this affects potential sales. It's a business decision, not a user one I think.

Personally I have no problem with the name being on or off the blade ... though I like the idea of a graphic or model number being left there, as already mentioned.

That "love tool" quote had me cracked up for a while though ... but I daresay it won't fly either :D

Joe
 
I'm not disappointed that Spyderco made this decision as I view it as a marketing issue. From my personal perspective the name Military is a bit of a misnomer. I bought it as a yard and garden tool, using it primarily to cut twine or ropes or stubborn vines - even small branches. I have even used it as a keyhole saw for sheetrock and plunged it into the ground to start a small excavation. It performs like a champ and I like the bulky grip even better than my Endura.
 
Joe Talmadge said:
I don't think it's a good idea to put aggressive names on knives. A lot of people have been arguing that it looks unnecessarily bad, and that a prosecutor would eventually use the name against a defedent who had used the knife in righteous self defense (although I don't know if that's the case here). Very good idea to re-name the knives or take the names off completely.
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What about all the knives that have gun names on them, Remington, H&K, Browning, etc. etc. etc.
 
Massad Ayoob, a specialist in handgun self-defense and author of books and many columns on that subject, has repeatedly warned against carrying a model with an aggressive name for self-defense purposes. He says that, in his experience as an expert court witness, such names cause problems for the defense in cases.
 
Listen to Massad Ayoob. He is a wise man.

I travel and many places have laws that restrict carrying any kind of knife for use as a weapon, whether offensive or defensive. Many cities and states have these laws. As soon as you carry a knife that is branded as a weapon (e.g. Masters of Defense, Police, Military, etc.) or marketed as a weapon (e.g. Gunting) as opposed to a tool (e.g. stockman, whittler, Worker, Standard, etc.) you have committed a crime. If that weapon is concealed (i.e. in your pocket) you are carrying a concealed weapon which in today's world of mandatory sentences can be 2 years.

Don't fall prey to some type of macho image. Don't let the next police dragnet for drunken drivers wind up getting you convicted for a weapon's charge. Carry a knife that is a tool unless you know the law of the town you're in.

Sypderco is right. Too bad MOD can't change their name.
 
I admit that I really don't care for names on my knives.
I don't even really like the words "Clipit" or "Delica" on the handle of the Delica.
I think that the Spyderco logo really says it all.

I also think that names matter to people.
Would you buy a car called the "Dodge Pooper" or the "Chevrolet Crapper" or the "Ford Fart"?

Allen.
 
FullerH said:
Massad Ayoob, a specialist in handgun self-defense and author of books and many columns on that subject, has repeatedly warned against carrying a model with an aggressive name for self-defense purposes. He says that, in his experience as an expert court witness, such names cause problems for the defense in cases.
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Would that be like a "SpyderHawk" name?

http://www.strategosstore.com/subcatmfgprod.asp?0=684&1=692&2=-1

You should see my better half when she sees a "Spider". It turns into a him-or-me battle to the death and someone gets squished I can tell you.

Spiders can be very nasty little creatures!


http://www.snopes.com/photos/bugs/camelspider.asp
 
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