Does any one out there have any simmons hardware or keen kutter knives?

Last two knives, two jacks: first is a 3 1/2" K7727 dogleg jack, made between 1917 to 19334 according to Sellens, has a faint blade etch; second is K2198 3/4, a 4" jumbo jack, made between 1930 and 1034 according to Sellens. I believe the two jacks were made very close to the same time period by the same manufacturer (Winchester, Camillus, Utica??) for the following reasons: the bone is very similar, the shields are identical (slimmer crest shields) and both knives have tang stamps that have the ears at the top of the wedge and Made in USA under the Keen Kutter, instead of the more usual St. Louis Mo..
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I recognize some of those knives - The OKCA show was a bonanza for you Dan!!
Thanks for posting those great knives!!
 
Here is a Simmons. But I think it was made in Germany. Maybe Someone can chime in on the history of these knives?
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Invoice, nice knife, but not likely old. Simmons Hardware Co. did have some knives manufactured in Germany. Goins says from 1890 to 1940. They do have the same tang stamp as yours. They also had a stylized hornet stamped on the back of every blade. However, I was informed, by a very knowledgable member over on AAPK, that the knives with the deep HORNET stamp on the main blade were supposedly a Jim Parker factory find from the early 2000s. They were supposedly put together at the Olbertz factory in Germany from old parts, found by Parker. This includes the doctors knife posted in my first post today, I was fooled.
Dan
 
danno50 said:
Last two knives, two jacks: first is a 3 1/2" K7727 dogleg jack, made between 1917 to 19334 according to Sellens, has a faint blade etch; second is K2198 3/4, a 4" jumbo jack, made between 1930 and 1034 according to Sellens. I believe the two jacks were made very close to the same time period by the same manufacturer (Winchester, Camillus, Utica??) for the following reasons: the bone is very similar, the shields are identical (slimmer crest shields) and both knives have tang stamps that have the ears at the top of the wedge and Made in USA under the Keen Kutter, instead of the more usual St. Louis Mo..
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Two really nice Keen Kutter Jacks!!! I hadn't been following this thread, but will now. :)
 
danno50 said:
Thanks Herder. This thread tends to drop back many pages very quickly.
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Yes, these threads seem to get shuffled faster than a Vegas dealer's deck. :)

At first glance, this shadow style jigged bone Simmons single blade folder appears a bit underwhelming, but it has a secret...
This is a scale release spring fired (switchblade) knife that was patented by "W. Weltersbach" in Solingen, Germany on Nov. 10th 1900.
The handles actually pivot slightly with finger pressure which raises the back spring to fire the blade from a kick spring inside.
While this model is not listed in Sellens Book, Keen Kutter did sell a wide selection of other switchblade knives that were contracted through Schrade.
Keen Kutter sold other German made knives early on, and this model with a "SIMMONS HDWE CO." tang stamp probably dates to circa 1900 to 1914.

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danno50 said:
Ken, very nice old barlow!:thumbsup: How long is it, looks like the 5".
Dan
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Time to " Fess " up .
I got this Barlow from the big internet site .
It was twice as big as I expected , the tip of the blade was broken off ( this was disclosed in the sales info ) , this made it apealing to me because I like resurrecting busted blades .
The scales are opposites in every way .
One is bone , which I suspect is original and the other is wood , which I suspect is a replacemement for a busted scale .
It has a super strong half stop , and a whole heap of old style street cred :)





Ken
 
I bet it makes a great user, although a little bigger in the pocket than I usually like to carry.
 
Also just got this K1898 3/4 5" toothpick in a couple of days ago. It has the same obscure tang stamp as the two jacks I picked up at OKCA this spring: ears at the top of the keystone, and under the Keen Kutter it has Made in USA, where the St. Louis Mo. usually is.) Sabre ground on the mark side and flat ground on the pile side as well. Also included a side by side pic of this knife with my other K1898 3/4.RIMG1435.JPGRIMG1436.JPG RIMG1437.JPG

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Just got this one in today. A K2245, 3 1/2" in length. Sellens says this model was in the catalogs from 1905 to 1929. From my collection and the KKs I study on ebay and other posts, I have a theory that the ones with the etched pattern numbers are pre 1923 Walden made knives.

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