Does anyone know a story of this damaged Busse SAR 4?

BlackDiamond said:
If you don't trust what he said you could try to run the test yourself. It's not nice to say he's a lier just because he didn't post any video ;)
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;) go back and read post #190. in my reply I even put the link to the thread he was referring to. The Photos of the Randall are still visible and it's easy to see that the Randall didn'tchip but suffered during the tests. Both knives were to resharpen with the Busse with just a couple of minor chips to remove.

There was no tricks, both knives were dull after the test, the reason the Randall didn't chip, even if it's in 440b, so it has a lower resilience than Infi are two reasons.

First... The metal behind the very edge of the Randall was a bit thicker than the metal behind the very edge of the sarsquatch.

Second... Randalls are tempered softer. Even if the metal has a low resilience, once it's tempered soft it will tend to have plastic deformations (a ductile reaction) instead of chipping (fragile reaction)

A concrete test never proves nothing. Never proves which steel holds an edge longer because unless you're just having fun, you'll never have a reason to use the edge of your knife to break concrete blocks. If you really should make your way out of a brick wall, you would use the spine of the knife, not the edge. Because guarantee or not, Busse or even God Knife Works, you'll have a ruined edge. And if you are in a REAL situation where a blade is a necessity, you'll never do anything that will ruin the sharpness of your instrument intentionally. To ruin the sharpness you'll already have the normal use.

So, noone I know in my country is so stupid to say Aisi 440 stainless steel series in superior in any way to Infi (exept for stain resistance of course), the test Marsus did was not to destroy the Infi reputation, it was just to show that Busse is not the only good blades to use and to trust on.

Infi is WAY thougher, holds an edge better, is more Elastic and has an higher breaking limit than any 440 steel.

Simply 440b or O1 forged and tempered by Randall will get the job done even if is not Infi. ;) even other cheap steelswill get the job done even if not Infi.
 
dingy said:
man, do you think of the broken dingo is tough ?
the issue dingo made of cpm 3v steel that bos heat treated . this kind of steel has a good name as tough stuff in the market, is it ?
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it has broken because it's made of particcully steel. under high pressure it just break, instead of rumple оr bent like INFI.

ps the same happened with sebenza.


the Alexandr aka asi has tested it

and it broke...

 
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istarr88 said:
;) go back and read post #190. In my reply i even put the link to the thread he was referring to. The photos of the randall are still visible and it's easy to see that the randall didn'tchip but suffered during the tests. Both knives were to resharpen with the busse with just a couple of minor chips to remove.

There was no tricks, both knives were dull after the test, the reason the randall didn't chip, even if it's in 440b, so it has a lower resilience than infi are two reasons.

First... The metal behind the very edge of the randall was a bit thicker than the metal behind the very edge of the sarsquatch.

Second... Randalls are tempered softer. Even if the metal has a low resilience, once it's tempered soft it will tend to have plastic deformations (a ductile reaction) instead of chipping (fragile reaction)

a concrete test never proves nothing. Never proves which steel holds an edge longer because unless you're just having fun, you'll never have a reason to use the edge of your knife to break concrete blocks. If you really should make your way out of a brick wall, you would use the spine of the knife, not the edge. Because guarantee or not, busse or even god knife works, you'll have a ruined edge. And if you are in a real situation where a blade is a necessity, you'll never do anything that will ruin the sharpness of your instrument intentionally. To ruin the sharpness you'll already have the normal use.

So, noone i know in my country is so stupid to say aisi 440 stainless steel series in superior in any way to infi (exept for stain resistance of course), the test marsus did was not to destroy the infi reputation, it was just to show that busse is not the only good blades to use and to trust on.

Infi is way thougher, holds an edge better, is more elastic and has an higher breaking limit than any 440 steel.

Simply 440b or o1 forged and tempered by randall will get the job done even if is not infi. ;) even other cheap steelswill get the job done even if not infi.
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+1 :)
 
its a kinda cheesy joke to be honest, in the usa we have tons of stupid jokes about a guy named chuck norris, like chuck norris doesnt do push ups he just moves the earth down, and other stupid stuff like that.
 
nutnfancyfan said:
its a kinda cheesy joke to be honest, in the usa we have tons of stupid jokes about a guy named chuck norris, like chuck norris doesnt do push ups he just moves the earth down, and other stupid stuff like that.
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Concerning what post is it? :)

ps we know Chuck)))
 
o, i meant when everyone was wondering what happened to the busse, before you explained
and OMG CHUCK HAS GOTTEN TO RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
nutnfancyfan said:
o, i meant when everyone was wondering what happened to the busse, before you explained
and OMG CHUCK HAS GOTTEN TO RUSSIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I got it now, before I thought your post was concerning sebenza.

ps Chuck's movies got to USSR, it was more than 20 years ago when I saw it for a fist time))). everybody know his movies, such as Delta force, Lone wolf, and movies with Bruce Lee....
 
azzkikr_rus ,thank you for your hard working on this ,and Sacrifice your knives.

i really wanta know is the bending limit of infi , it was said before from the old web page of busse that a mistress can bend 70 degrees without breaking , i do not belive it , can you show us the bending limit of infi ? i know this is sooooo wicked .

in the destruction tests ,noss bend the SKINNY ASH1 to about 30+ without breaking , but i think this is not the limit .

dingy
 
dingy said:
azzkikr_rus ,thank you for your hard working on this ,and Sacrifice your knives.

i really wanta know is the bending limit of infi , it was said before from the old web page of busse that a mistress can bend 70 degrees without breaking , i do not belive it , can you show us the bending limit of infi ? i know this is sooooo wicked .

in the destruction tests ,noss bend the SKINNY ASH1 to about 30+ without breaking , but i think this is not the limit .

dingy
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I believe that if Jerry told he bent a Battle mistress to 70 degrees without breaking, it is true.

plus... a knife bending test doesn't prove the bending ability of the steel it is made of.

if you take a 420 steel bar, 0.05 inch thick and 20 inch long, you can bend it as much as you want, more than 180° and it won't break

if you take a sar 4, it's way thicker and shorter, you will never be able to bend a sar 4 to 180° without breaking it.

but I assure you, Infi is a steel who bends better than any 420 ;)

that's because....

you can test the bending limit of a KNIFE not of the steel it is made of and make comparisons with other knives.

the BM Jerry bent was way longer than the sar 4, with almost the same thickness I suppose, so it was absolutely possible to bend it to 70 degrees, but you'll not be able to bend that much a knife made of that same steel but shorter.

I hope I was clear...

to test the lateral strenght and bending limit of a steel it's necessary not to use a knife, which is a finished product, but standard specimens of different steels and than make any test you want ;)
 
Thread Drift doesn't even begin to describe whats happening, its looking like a "look at me" thing. Any way this can end up in Testing and Reviews?

Sorry, but this thread isn't about Busse so much as its about metals in general.
 
istarr88 said:
to test the lateral strenght and bending limit of a steel it's necessary not to use a knife, which is a finished product, but standard specimens of different steels and than make any test you want ;)
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that's the main point).

ps dingy, if you want a true test- do it yourself)))
 
When Chuck Norris enters a river, Chuck Norris doesn't become wet. The water becomes Chuck Norris.
 
I have followed this thread from the start.

I am kinda confused by all of it...:confused:

HOWEVER:D I feel that we will not lock it down...but I might cause it is getting weird...Mods just saying:D

until it get's crazy...:) and Chuck Norris is NOT CRAZY:D

but I see some "Crazy" in some of the post's...so let it go :)


What you do with YOUR BUSSE KNIFE...is your business:)

but if you want it covered under the Busse Combat..That turns into our problem :) and if you do damage to your blade on purpose :confused:

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