Does Sanrenmu Produce Any of Their Own Stuff?

It's no problem dude. If you haven't already you can read about Strider in many threads, just use the Search function.
 
RedLynx said:
Thanks mate. You mention you had one in every size? What sizes do they offer? How were the edges out of the box on yours?
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There are 4 sizes with the A169 being largest. The edges are like a butter knife :) but being fairly straight and 8cr13mov that isn't a biggy.
 
RedLynx said:
I'm certain Strider knows that the GI Tanto is CS's version, particularly if they've basically stated as such. Very different from what SRM is purported to do.
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True. SanRenMu makes "homages" to other designers' work, while CS makes "homage" to other designers' work and then calls the designers "convicted felons and rip off artists". :D
 
I believe this is a good example of a model from SRM that is of their own design, as far as I can tell anyway. The "M1" is a bit interesting since it's a slipjoint with one hand opening and a kind of lock (detent ball lock). Not the most common combination. It's also slightly larger than the usual offerings from Sanrenmu with a blade length around 80 mm.

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The M1 is discontinued, but they are producing a new version sold as the 9051.

Sanrenmu, to the best of my knowledge, do not make ripoffs. They do produce the 710 which has some similarities to the small Sebenza, but they're certainly making no effort to convince you that it is a Sebenza, I suppose it is to the Sebenza what the Shrade Old Timer is to the Buck 110. They did use the axis lock in a couple of designs, but those models are discontinued now (and in 2015 it won't matter anyway). They do manufacture knives for companies like Spyderco.

The reason people get that confused is because dealers who sell Sanrenmu often also sell knives made by Navy and Ganzo, and while those are decent enough knives in their own right, they often replicate the designs of other companies (mainly Spyderco and Benchmade).
 
Freman Bloodglaive said:
The M1 is discontinued, but they are producing a new version sold as the 9051.

Sanrenmu, to the best of my knowledge, do not make ripoffs. They do produce the 710 which has some similarities to the small Sebenza, but they're certainly making no effort to convince you that it is a Sebenza, I suppose it is to the Sebenza what the Shrade Old Timer is to the Buck 110. They did use the axis lock in a couple of designs, but those models are discontinued now (and in 2015 it won't matter anyway). They do manufacture knives for companies like Spyderco.

The reason people get that confused is because dealers who sell Sanrenmu often also sell knives made by Navy and Ganzo, and while those are decent enough knives in their own right, they often replicate the designs of other companies (mainly Spyderco and Benchmade).
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Well, since they used the Axis lock then they are in fact infringing on copyright/patent law here in the states. Since they refer to it as an axis lock that feature is therefore a counterfeit of a real benchmade axis lock.

Even if SanRen has discontinued the Axis lock knock offs, the line between the various big players in Chinese knife manufacture is extremely blurry. Who makes what, and which company is part of another company is unknown. The same knife can be branded by several companies. This then furthers the question of if any of these companies are involved in the outright counterfeit American branded knockoffs, especially Spydercos. I am willing to bet they are involved and I am also willing to bet all these companies are related, so drawing a line between them has little meaning. Of course I don't really know. No one here really does.
 
The M1 is a decent knife, especially for the price. Despite how the handle looks it's rather comfortable in hand. Small details like a rounded spine of the blade and polished micarta handles that is contoured make it feel more expensive. It actually took me by surprise to find out that it was a slipjoint that I bought. I was under the impression that i was a linerlock at first.

By the way Freman is right. They don't copy designs like Ganzo and Navy does!
 
craytab said:
Well, since they used the Axis lock then they are in fact infringing on copyright/patent law here in the states. Since they refer to it as an axis lock that feature is therefore a counterfeit of a real benchmade axis lock.

Even if SanRen has discontinued the Axis lock knock offs, the line between the various big players in Chinese knife manufacture is extremely blurry. Who makes what, and which company is part of another company is unknown. The same knife can be branded by several companies. This then furthers the question of if any of these companies are involved in the outright counterfeit American branded knockoffs, especially Spydercos. I am willing to bet they are involved and I am also willing to bet all these companies are related, so drawing a line between them has little meaning. Of course I don't really know. No one here really does.
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Of course. Never let reasoned argument stand in the way of ad hominem and racism. I should know better by now.

Yes, using the axis lock would count as an infringement of copyright in the United States, and if they had actually sold the 763 in the United States you might actually have a point. Since they didn't, and are now using liner locks in the 763, you don't.

From BladeForums user, Like Em Sharp;
Good question, happy to answer. I'm a business consultant by trade, and for four months last year I was doing a major project for a client who was interested in becoming a major North American distributor for some different Chinese knife brands. The major knife/multitool brands that were examined were Sanrenmu/Land, Enlan/Bee, Ganzo, Tekut and Navy.

They are 5 separate companies with different ownership, unless something major has changed since December of last year. The site that's commonly referenced for Sanrenmu is not actually SanRenMu's official brand site - that's an advertising site run by a third party. That site exists to showcase the brands and as far as I know, they're paid a fee to provide new wholesale contacts to the companies they show products from (not an uncommon business model).
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Trollbane said:
The M1 is a decent knife, especially for the price. Despite how the handle looks it's rather comfortable in hand. Small details like a rounded spine of the blade and polished micarta handles that is contoured make it feel more expensive. It actually took me by surprise to find out that it was a slipjoint that I bought. I was under the impression that i was a linerlock at first.
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It is a nice looking knife. Looks kind of like a laser strike.

Trollbane said:
By the way Freman is right. They don't copy designs like Ganzo and Navy does!
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Wrong. They have infringed on patented designs (axis lock). And prove that Ganzo or Navy aren't associated with SRM, Enlan, or Bee. You can't.
 
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