I just wanted everyone to know. On my first transaction on the blade forums, Theblademaster sold me a blade that was grinded down at the tip that he sold as mint and new and when I got the blade and wanted to reverse the deal he told me to go screw myself.
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does this one come grinded down like the last one you sold me
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Ouch man, that's a low move on the sellers part for not offering a refund... ftr, a lot of people sell things on forums and list them as new and charge new price when in fact they're used... research and good photographs, background checks, ect are key. Really sorry to hear you had a negative experience with the guy.
The moderator and a nice guy from the Busse forum- Jax- more or less came in between both parties and even said- BF policies and you would think honest people follow this code anyway- I DO! that if one or the other buyer or seller was unsatisfied that the transaction could be reversed- no hard feelings- move on. When my buddy Boris asked for that- he was told to screw off. The reason for this post so hopefully someone else doesnt get screwed over on a 650.00 purchase. We all start out somewhere- and down at the bottom- but you dont try to sell them something listed as new, when it is a nightmare looking grind. UNEVEN ON BOTH SIDES. to anyone for any reason. Just my .02 LIARS and CHEATERS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED! NEVER!!!!!
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This coming from the guys (boris and cr33 are best friends) who tried to bribe me for $100 back and who tried to ruin my reputation before I even knew there was an issue.
That was over a month ago.
Today you tried to flame me on my for sale thread.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/848764-Does-this-one-come-grinded-down-...
That was over a month ago.
Today you tried to flame me on my for sale thread.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/848764-Does-this-one-come-grinded-down-...
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A reground tip is not "Mint." Any modification makes it other than "Like New" -- possibly "Excellent." A lot of guys who sell on eBay clearly have no idea what "Mint" means. I would be interested in seeing you post the content of that email in which you claim he advised you to commit an unnatural and anatomically impossible act upon yourself. How did you pay for this?
I saw you trying to sell something, so I figure ill let people know what kind of seller you are, I was brand new when I got that blade a month ago, I've purchased from 10 other people since and have not had an incident, I contacted you 20 mins after I got the blade and when I sent you pictures you saw the tip was grinded down, but you didn't see it grinded Down when you had it in your hands for 3 months, you told me to send the blade which I just paid 650 for, into Busse and they will fix it, and they probably will cause their a great company, I asked you to send me a hundred back to cover back and forth shipping to Busse and my time, and we will move on, both happy, you said No. I then asked you to reverse the the sale and I will pay to ship it back to you and you told me to go screw myself.
It was my first time using paypal in like 10 years, so he suckered me into sending a gift, I know now, not to use the gift option, he made it seem like he needed the money for the weekend and said it was quicker or something like that....me being the nice guy I said OK and sent it as a gift.
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I told you if you can honestly say that a small section of the edge grind was a half a millimeter off that I did not notice when I had it that I would pay for the shipping to and from busse. You called me a liar that I didn't see it which I didn't like but brushed off. I was willing to work with you and then without any warning you and your friend went on the busse forum and started trash talking and slandering my name. This is the point I was really mad but amazingly was still willing to work with you. Your trash talking and slandering intensified and I got to my breaking point and told you I was done dealing with you.
I payed $775 for the blade. I sold it to you for $625 I took a huge loss on the blade and for you to say that I would
have took a grinder to a small section of the only custom shop busse I ever owned is absurd.
I payed $775 for the blade. I sold it to you for $625 I took a huge loss on the blade and for you to say that I would
have took a grinder to a small section of the only custom shop busse I ever owned is absurd.
I did a trade with theblademaster a few weeks ago. It was a great trade he actually traded me a knife that was worth $20 more than what I traded to him. I was very happy and he seemed like a nice guy. It sounds like you guys just had a bad misunderstanding where both of the parties just got really mad.
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i have heard these arguements before. i guess everybody is pretty new here including me but since ive been here a little longer , there are some things to go by for the seller: you have an obligation to finalize a GOOD deal by making sure that your buying party is satisfied, when you dont you get threads like this and people chopping into your for sales thread mukking it up. i dont know all the details but there should have been an accurated description as well as a bunch of pics of everything including the tip. if the customer isnt happy and asked for a refund within a 48 hour period or so , to refuse is bad buisness, just take the knife back and get it fixed to relist and sell or take a small loss on the knife your choice but ya cant stick someone with a lemon.
to the buyer: you really have to make sure you can see all the parts of the knife before you buy, the forums are great and most deals go good and most knives are as described but it still is the internet so you have to cover your a**. i understand your frustration at not getting what ya paid for and this thread is the correct response to dealing with your seller issues, posting in the for sales thread is def frowned upon regardless of gripes as im sure you found out earlier. basically as the one with an issue you want to remain as collected and upstanding as you can , follow the correct measures and refrain from slinging insults as hard as that is
if the seller is still not willing to make it right just keep this thread going and it will get dealt with one way or the other.
i hate to see forum brothers in distress and i hope you guys get this situation figured out. i know it s no fun , i have been in both of your shoes at one point or another in my first year here at BF. i hope this doesnt turn anybody off from expierencing the greatness that is BF and the BUSSE community. i have meant no disrespect in any of my ramblings here , if i have rubbed ya the wrong way it was not my intention. good luck
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to the buyer: you really have to make sure you can see all the parts of the knife before you buy, the forums are great and most deals go good and most knives are as described but it still is the internet so you have to cover your a**. i understand your frustration at not getting what ya paid for and this thread is the correct response to dealing with your seller issues, posting in the for sales thread is def frowned upon regardless of gripes as im sure you found out earlier. basically as the one with an issue you want to remain as collected and upstanding as you can , follow the correct measures and refrain from slinging insults as hard as that is
if the seller is still not willing to make it right just keep this thread going and it will get dealt with one way or the other.i hate to see forum brothers in distress and i hope you guys get this situation figured out. i know it s no fun , i have been in both of your shoes at one point or another in my first year here at BF. i hope this doesnt turn anybody off from expierencing the greatness that is BF and the BUSSE community. i have meant no disrespect in any of my ramblings here , if i have rubbed ya the wrong way it was not my intention. good luck
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Well, you're both new here and I don't know either of you, so I'm a neutral observer here. This is what I'm seeing.
First off, NEVER send PayPal via the "gift" option to anyone you do not trust implicitly. That does not include some guy you do not know who recently joined an online forum. That is just common sense. There is no valid reason for a seller to request a "gift" payment UNLESS he is shipping to an overseas buyer at the buyer's own risk as insurance coverage is not an option. Offer to pay via standard non-CC PayPal and include an extra 03% to cover his fees, and if that is rejected alarms should go off. You have no recourse or protection once you have sent a "gift" -- even if you never receive anything.
Seller claims there was a minor flaw in the edge profile. I have owned several Busse knives. Fit and finish on new factory knives is not always perfect.
As no pics of the alleged damage have been posted, nor has the text of the alleged email, I am under the impression that you might be experiencing buyer's remorse. Furthermore, due to the number of bizarre posts you have made, I am thinking you may need to ask your doctor to adjust your medication. I may retract that comment if you can show proof of your as yet unfounded allegations.
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I did not sucker him into paypal gift. I asked if he would use gift option or money order for him to avoid the paypal expenses. He informed me that he had registered paypal with a credit card and not a bank account so he would have to pay the fees anyway. I sent him an email after this sayin if he had to pay the fees even with paypal gift to go ahead and just add pay pals percentage i would even pay half of it and use the normal commerce paypal. I received and email confirmation after and found he payed with the gift option. In response he said o well he didn't want to fuss with the paypal and just sent it with the gift option. In no way did I sucker him into paypal gift in any way.
I would also like to add that his paypal account was un verified and address not confirmed in the united states. This is part of the reason I asked for gift or MO in the first place.
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It was 1-2 weeks before he asked for a refund. And this was after him and his friend went on the forum and started bad mouthing me.
I do not have buyers remorse, the blade I purchased is my first Busse, and its not for sale. I do not want my money back. I just want to let other buyers know that Theblademaster is not a trustworthy seller. I have all the emails, and pictures...he already stated that he saw the picture I sent him and the tip seems to be grinded down, he also accused me of grinding the blade myself. During the 60 plus emails I have between myself and Theblademaster, I asked him just to be honest with me because I just didn't believe that he owned it for three months and didnt notice the tip was messed up on his grail Busse blade. I would of never even posted in here or his sales thread if he was honest with me. I can post emails and pictures tomorrow. Once again, I do not have buyersremorse, I do not want my money back, I have probably purchased 20 Busse`s since a friend told me about the forums a little over a month ago, and I'm not getting rid of any of them.
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I was honest with you. You insist on calling me a liar.
Aside from all that, if you had handled this with maturity the outcome would have been very different. That is all I have to say.
Aside from all that, if you had handled this with maturity the outcome would have been very different. That is all I have to say.
1-2 weeks???
On 4/02, 3:02pm EDT:
April 2nd was a Saturday. Even if you were able to ship it straight away, it wouldn't have moved far until Monday the 4th.
On Friday, 4/08:
This quote is from that thread you started at 4:02pm EDT. Obviously, you were already aware by that point that there was an issue with the knife.
I see that there has been no resolution on this, so if you 2 are going to get into it again, please stick to the facts.
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if it was 1-2 weeks after him telling you he recieved the knife and was happy and then had a complaint then i guess its a tough call , i wouldnt have wanted to be in your shoes, i know how ya feel. as stated above sometimes there is a minor issue with a knife when it leaves a manufacturer and with a good company like busse they will make it perfect for free. sounds like tempers flared which is understandable concerning the cost. but all in all if he is happy with the knife ie." NO BUYERS REMORSE" then i guess you guys just both have to chalk it up to a lesson learned. i wish you guys both the best in all your future actions here on the forums.
ps. when i frst started out getting INFI i went crazy and got a real real nice piece cost me about 850$ which i clearly over payed for and when i got it there were scratches on the spine but i was so in love with the rest of the knife i couldnt and wouldnt give it up but i was a little frustrated at not having something 100% mint for that much.And on the other side, i had gotten two strider customs that were about 1100$ apiece and owned them for about 6 months. when i sold them to two different buyers, one contacted me and showed me a super small blemish on the handle of the knife where he thought someone had tried to fix a ding or something in the carbon fiber, i told him i never saw it before but he sent me pics and although very slight and hard to see it was there, i ended up sending him 80$ back to get it fixed and he was happy but i wasnt , the other buyer sent me a pic of the other strider i let go and there was a mark on the carbon fiber !!!! i couldnt believe i had owned them for so long and hadnt seen the imperfections. after conversing with the second buyer he was undisturbed by the mark on his and said that where he works ( working with carbon fiber) that these marks are common and happen while being manufactured sometimes and he walked away 100% happy. so some people are more picky than others and be very very carefull when buying off the internet.
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TheBladeMaster
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Yes jaxx your right I was aware of the issue. He was not requesting a refund at that time. We were discussing him sending it to busse and me paying the shipping fees at that time.
It was well over 48 hours after this date when he was interested in a refund and all the damage had already been done. It was 2 weeks before it was clear that all he wanted was a refund.
It has now been over a month and I thought this was squashed until today.
It seems he is just out to ruin my reputation again...
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TheBladeMaster
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This is pretty much what happened.
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