DPx H•E•S•T/F...ANNOUNCING THE HEST FOLDER!

[draftpick]

any chance to see pics of the package?

 

[RYP]

The thumb stud used is not the final one. You can see the final one on the design shots. Warranty is up to Jeff and Mike who has a thread here for people to weigh in on.

The knife has not been tumbled, the blade has not been beadblasted and Ti coated and the g10 scale has not been finished in a bead blast. Lots more work to do but the basic structure and movement are there.

 

[RYP]

Balance point of DPx H•E•S•T / F is in the sweet spot.

Exactly 4.33070866 inches / 110 mm from the tip of the blade in open position. Right behind the waist where the force of your hand meets. The pointer and thumb pivot and push point.

Total open knife is 7.63 inches/193.80200 mms without glass breaker

The weight is: 5.11472448 ounces/145 gr

You can compare other blade thicknesses, balance points, weights in this range to see how the HEST folder shapes up to the competition.


Handle thickness (without clip): .541”
Blade thickness (Max): .187”
Overall length (opened / without glass breaker): 7.625”
Closed length (without glass breaker): 4.38”
Handle Grip Area: 3.80”
Cutting Edge length: 3.10”
Titanium frame thickness: .140”
G10 thickness: .140”
Weight: 5.11 oz

 

[R.A.T.]

The thumb stud used is not the final one. You can see the final one on the design shots. Warranty is up to Jeff and Mike who has a thread here for people to weigh in on.

The knife has not been tumbled, the blade has not been beadblasted and Ti coated and the g10 scale has not been finished in a bead blast. Lots more work to do but the basic structure and movement are there.

Gianni is sending proto samples over for us to do some destructive testing on so we can make the warranty accordingly, of course with the input on the warranty thread We have also secured a repair shop that will be doing any basic repairs and sharpening on the folders. More details to come on that later.

 

[Mattohn]

maybe a youtube teaser of some test?

 

[R.A.T.]

Would rather not do that publicly since we intend to break the knives and wear the hell out of the lock. Any public video will have people thinking they can actually do that to the knife.

 

[teacher]

Handle thickness (without clip): .541”
Blade thickness (Max): .187”
Titanium frame thickness: .140”
G10 thickness: .140”
Weight: 5.11 oz
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Question????

What is the combined thickness of the of the Titanium and the G10.. on the G10 side???

It can't be .140" for both, that would put the handle thickness far past .541".

Just curious.

Thanks in advance??

 

[RYP]

.42 of an inch thick not including the clip. You are packing a thick blade.

Closed end to end is is 4.39" and 4.65: with glass breaker

 

[jdboy]

Thanks RYP for the photo's and all the helpful specs!!

 

[teacher]

Handle thickness (without clip): .541”
Blade thickness (Max): .187”
Titanium frame thickness: .140”
G10 thickness: .140”
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Question????

What is the combined thickness of the of the Titanium and the G10.. on the G10 side???

It can't be .140" for both, that would put the handle thickness far past .541".

Just curious.

Thanks in advance??

.42 of an inch thick not including the clip. You are packing a thick blade.

Closed end to end is is 4.39" and 4.65: with glass breaker

Ok, but something is not adding up on handle thickness. Handle thickness of knife is stated to be .541

The .42" you reported seems to be :
.140" / 'Lock side' Titanium thickness
.140" / 'G10 side' Titanium thickness
.140" / G10 thickness
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.420" / Handle thickness, '2' Ti slabs & '1' G10 slab / no blade.
.187" / Blade thickness
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.607" / Add the blade and this is what we have, not including washers [which would add a few thousandths].

Where is the discrepancy???

Thanks, looking forward to this one; and thanks also for the updates.

 

[gottahaveit27]

Ok, but something is not adding up on handle thickness. Handle thickness of knife is stated to be .541

The .42" you reported seems to be :
.140" / 'Lock side' Titanium thickness
.140" / 'G10 side' Titanium thickness
.140" / G10 thickness
-------------------------------------
.420" / Handle thickness, '2' Ti slabs & '1' G10 slab / no blade.
.187" / Blade thickness
--------------------------------------
.607" / Add the blade and this is what we have, not including washers [which would add a few thousandths].

Where is the discrepancy???

Thanks, looking forward to this one; and thanks also for the updates.

I'm assuming (and I hope I'm not wrong) that the titanium on the g-10 side will be thinner than on the lock side and that the titanium and g-10 together will add up to .140. Though the math still doesn't seem to add up.

 

[UDT-SEAL]

This is the advertised warranty
From RYP web site,,,,,,,

ntroducing the ESEE DPx H•E•S•T /F
Hostile Environment Survival Tool / Folding

* pdf Download DPx-Catalog

For the first time the brutal, rugged feel and performance of the DPx HEST fixed blade has been engineered into a hard use frame lock folder. The D2 Tool Steel folder comes with a solid titanium alloy frame, Rotoblock adjustment, removable glass breaker, a U.S. made Afghan Campaign colored woven lanyard along with a unique and collectible Mr DP adjustment and multi tool. After a global search the firm of Lion Steel was selected to manufacture this knife based on their long heritage of quality and award winning solid titanium folders. The DPx H•E•S•T folder is the collaboration of Robert Young Pelton, Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin. Based on Pelton's hard time in dangerous places, ESEE's commitment to customer satisfaction and Lion Steel's mastery of manufacturing and tolerances.

The DPx H•E•S•T Folder is designed and made for hard use in hostile conditions with a lifetime warranty to registered owners.

 

[wolffbite]

It appears from the proto pics...

0.140" Titanium only side (with frame lock)
0.140" Titanium Fram & G-10 COMBINED Thickness
0.187" Blade thickness, +whatever the gap with washers is

So it will be 0.467"+washer gap

Not quite the same dispcrepancy as you thought. But a thickness of less than 0.5" makes sense for comforts sake.

 

[teacher]

I'm assuming (and I hope I'm not wrong) that the titanium on the g-10 side will be thinner than on the lock side and that the titanium and g-10 together will add up to .140. Though the math still doesn't seem to add up.

That is what I am hoping and assuming also, that is why I was questioning the specs as they are listed. :thumbup:

It appears from the proto pics...

0.140" Titanium only side (with frame lock)
0.140" Titanium Fram & G-10 COMBINED Thickness
0.187" Blade thickness, +whatever the gap with washers is

So it will be 0.467"+washer gap

Not quite the same dispcrepancy as you thought. But a thickness of less than 0.5" makes sense for comforts sake.

I totally with what you say about the pics, that is how it looks. :thumbup:
I was questioning the specs as listed. The math does not work that way.

No big deal, I was just looking for some clarification from the "top".

It does look "sweet". :thumbup:

 

[teacher]

This is the advertised warranty
From RYP web site,,,,,,,

ntroducing the ESEE DPx H•E•S•T /F
Hostile Environment Survival Tool / Folding

* pdf Download DPx-Catalog

For the first time the brutal, rugged feel and performance of the DPx HEST fixed blade has been engineered into a hard use frame lock folder. The D2 Tool Steel folder comes with a solid titanium alloy frame, Rotoblock adjustment, removable glass breaker, a U.S. made Afghan Campaign colored woven lanyard along with a unique and collectible Mr DP adjustment and multi tool. After a global search the firm of Lion Steel was selected to manufacture this knife based on their long heritage of quality and award winning solid titanium folders. The DPx H•E•S•T folder is the collaboration of Robert Young Pelton, Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin. Based on Pelton's hard time in dangerous places, ESEE's commitment to customer satisfaction and Lion Steel's mastery of manufacturing and tolerances.

The DPx H•E•S•T Folder is designed and made for hard use in hostile conditions with a lifetime warranty to registered owners.

That has been on there a while.

There is a thread on here that discusses warranty. It is yet to be decided.

No problem at all as far as I am concerned.... I feel sure that whatever they come up with will be more than fair. :thumbup:

 

[UDT-SEAL]

I was just pointing out what is still in writing....
I am well aware of the warranty thread. it just seemed to go no where...
This is what is still up on the point of sale....The DPx H•E•S•T /F Folder is designed and made for hard use in hostile conditions with a lifetime warranty to registered owners.
I am aware of no other official statement to the contrary.....
I believe if you look further on the net you will see this posted at almost ever retailer of the H.e.s.t/f


LIKE YOU ...I feel sure that whatever they come up with will be more than fair.
just pointing out what is still in writing.... Look Here...
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=RCHESTFOLDERLH

The sog auto this Hest is replaceing is 5 years old EDC Used every day never a problen just a little oil.....

 

[Monsieur]

It might be writen lifetime warranty to registered owner for now, but at no point it says unconditional or "no questions asked".

Let's just wait for these protos to be tested and abused before Jeff, Mike and RYP can come up with a warranty that, we can be sure of, will be the most appropriate for this product.

 

[UDT-SEAL]

I agree with all that I am just saying if you advertise something ...it is whats in writing.

It might be writen lifetime warranty to registered owner for now,

Do you think you can change a warrenty when you Pre sold everthing with this in writing? I dont think you can change the Game now the Boat has all ready sailed

but at no point it says unconditional or "no questions asked".
I never once said anything of the sort..............
...I feel sure that whatever they come up with will be more than fair.
just pointing out what is still in writing.... Look Here...
http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/st...RCHESTFOLDERLH

 

[lmcq784]

For whatever it's worth, thanks to all at ESEE/RAT, RYP, and everyone involved in making this knife come true.... I just preordered mine online!

Can't wait till it comes in! I've thoroughly enjoyed (and still do) all my ESEE knives (Izulas, 5's and 6) and the HEST fixed blade.

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

It might be writen lifetime warranty to registered owner for now, but at no point it says unconditional or "no questions asked".

http://www.the-knife-connection.com/esee-hestfolder-lh.html

"The DPx HEST Folder is designed and made for hard use in hostile conditions with the ESEE no questions asked, lifetime warranty to registered owners."

It's even written in the 2nd picture on the 1st page of this thread.