Dual Survival - Cauterization

[dougshoe]

The wound wasn't bleeding very much. Left alone, it looked like it would have clotted in a few minutes. There was no need to do anything other than keep the wound clean.

For a more severe wound, you would apply pressure until the bleeding stopped.

For an even more severe wound, you would use a tourniquet. (As in "Oops. I accidentally cut my arm off.) In the old days, cauterization was used to give people some chance of survival. You might die anyway from infection, but at least you had a chance.

The self-inflicted wound in Odd Couple Survival (TM) did not require such extreme measures. What they did was take a very minor cut and turn it into a more severe burn. Brilliant! If they really were stranded in a remote area, the guy could have died from infection. Good job.

Also, I'm not sure why they insisted on rubbing moss and dirt in the wound. Even if they think the moss has healing properties, they need to lose the dirt first. What's in the dirt? I would guess that there is moose poop and rotting rodent carcasses in there- just the sort of stuff you want to rub into a wound. I have to laugh at the "sterilization" of the knife. First "sterilize" the knife. Second, rub dirt in the wound. Makes perfect sense.

What do you expect from a guy who insists on walking barefoot everywhere because "it's good for my mitochondria"? When his feet get frozen solid, he can cut them off with his Mora, cauterize the wounds, and walk home on the stubs. That's the art of survival at it's finest.

 

[EMT_Lee]

G'day Dartanyon


IMO they are all jokes, including the one who is universally hailed on internet forums as "the real deal" :thumbdn:

I am truly at a loss to understand how anyone who can't even feed themselves (i.e the one known as the "starving man") can be hailed as the "real deal".

I really think more people should be spending more time outdoors rather than living their lives through the various "broadcast personalities" that are so often discussed :thumbdn::thumbdn::thumbdn:




Kind regards
Mick

I'm willing to bet that if I took you out of your comfort zone, and flew you around the world and dropped you off in the middle of a different environment, with very limited supplies, you would have a harder time feeding yourself. I'm not saying you couldn't survive, but I don't think it would be as easy you seem to assume. I've done it. I'm a mountain boy. And, if you put me in the Blue Ridge Mountains, where I've grew up, I can do pretty well for myself. But, you take and put me on a island with a completely different eco-system (plants I can't I.D. easily, animals with whom I'm unfamiliar with behavioral patterns, etc.) and it's a wake-up call.

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day KuRupTD

So Mick - other than yourself are there any so called "survival experts" that you would consider to be the "real deal" ?

Les Stroud has extensive knowledge and experience in both survival and primitive living skills - there is no denying that fact.

Care to show me (via a direct link where I have claimed to be a survival expert)?

Maybe Les does have this knowledge & experience, but it's not apparent from the little I have seen....

.....nearly 11 hours to start a fire using a bow drill [youtube]TPf_U48JA68&feature=related[/youtube]

At the time it was originally posted here, I questioned the lack of shadow movement over what was supposed to be nearly half a day (assuming he is so far north that daylight makes up most of the 24 hr period during summer) :thumbdn:

You will note that the direct link to the video that originally shows "his attempts to light a fire with a bow drill" has been removed by the user" :thumbdn:

Jeez, I wonder why?



....."and he appearently can't even feed himself (thus the internet title of the starving man)"?

Now before you go on with "but he's out of his area", I really don't subsrcibe to the internet fantatsy that I'm likely to be teleported to a completely different area by aliens

But maybe this is something that is a genuine consideration for others.

If you want to have a look at what I consider the real deal, have a look at the contribution of a man called Malcolm Douglass. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

At least he didn't have a back up crew that could be called by a Sat phone lol :thumbup:

Is he rough? You bet. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

But them again, we Aussies are more interested in information than we are in entertainment




Kind regards
Mick

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day Dartanyon

Gidday Mick :thumbup:
I started watching Malcolm Douglas on tele and he, along with the Leyland brothers and Les Hiddins inspired me to travel around Australia ... which I did a few times eating bush tukka and using bush medicine along the way ... and looking forward to doing it many more times along with overseas.
The greedy yahoo's makin a mockery out of the experience need to be recognised as they are.
The only real deal's out there are the ones ya dont see on the box ... we respect them as they respect our land

(Please note: that the bolded emphasis added to the above qoute was done by myself)

Please don't point this out

Otherwise you will find yourself the same source of criticism here that I am




Kind regards
Mick

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day EMT_Lee

I'm willing to bet that if I took you out of your comfort zone, and flew you around the world and dropped you off in the middle of a different environment, with very limited supplies, you would have a harder time feeding yourself.

ARRRR, we're back to aliens teleporting us out of our comfort zone.

OK. I can see how this is totally relevant to "wilderness survival skills" :thumbup::thumbup:

I have enough fat reserves to last at least a week without food, so how much am I going to get paid ?

But, can I add that I really don't want to be teleported to another area of Australia. :thumbdn:

Afterall, I don't want to be filming a "realistic" survival show with a camera strapped in front of me. :thumbdn:

Afterall, over here I really would prefer to know where I am putting my feet LOL




Kind regards
Mick

 

[ivan51]

hey Mick how is your bark river LB holding up?

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day Ivan

hey Mick how is your bark river LB holding up?

After more than another 6 months of further use, very well thanks :thumbup:

As a matter of fact, it was only 3 weeks ago that I embarrassed some tourist to one of our national local parks with it.


I know, I'm a ba$tard.




Kind regards
Mick

 

[ivan51]

lol thanks for the update:thumbup: ive not put mine through the paces like you have good to know what it can do. guess i need to take more time off work:thumbup:

 

[dartanyon]

Hey Mick cheers mate :thumbup: ... i just happened to notice that you wont be needing your F1 any more
I could help you out with that haha
Dave

 

[6shooter]

:EDIT:Fahgettabbatit.

 

[EMT_Lee]

G'day EMT_Lee




ARRRR, we're back to aliens teleporting us out of our comfort zone.

OK. I can see how this is totally relevant to "wilderness survival skills" :thumbup::thumbup:

I have enough fat reserves to last at least a week without food, so how much am I going to get paid ?

But, can I add that I really don't want to be teleported to another area of Australia. :thumbdn:

Afterall, I don't want to be filming a "realistic" survival show with a camera strapped in front of me. :thumbdn:

Afterall, over here I really would prefer to know where I am putting my feet LOL




Kind regards
Mick

No, no. I'm just saying that on his home field, Les can probably feed himself. We're watching him struggle in foreign environments. It's entertain, we all get that. But, the guy probably does have some skills, in reality. I've seen him do some neat tricks.

 

[cappaletti]

IMHO Les Stroud is the way to go...

 

[dougshoe]

I can't wait until I have my own survival show and one-up all the other shows! In the first episode I will deliberately cut a huge slash in my face. Then my barefoot hippy sidekick can cauterize it with a grenade.

 

[dougo83]

Whats self respect and a message for our children worth?

I thank the good LORD that my parents didn't rely on tv shows to send a message to us kids.

Maybe Les does have this knowledge & experience, but it's not apparent from the little I have seen.........nearly 11 hours to start a fire using a bow drill

The thing I like about Les is that he tends to show how "real" survival can be. Does it take me 11 hours to start a fire with a bow? No idea. But it could. He also shows that food can be a real PITA to acquire in nature. IMO, it is more realistic than those that cut out all of the scenes of failed hunting/snaring/fishing attempts and only show the one where they snag enough food to continue on.

 

[j williams]

I thank the good LORD that my parents didn't rely on tv shows to send a message to us kids.



The thing I like about Les is that he tends to show how "real" survival can be. Does it take me 11 hours to start a fire with a bow? No idea. But it could. He also shows that food can be a real PITA to acquire in nature. IMO, it is more realistic than those that cut out all of the scenes of failed hunting/snaring/fishing attempts and only show the one where they snag enough food to continue on.

Amen. :thumbup: Thats how I raise my boys.

I gotta agree. Ive had my butt kicked starting a fire before, and Ive had days when it came almost too easy. I respect him as a documentary film maker, musician, and outdoorsman. IMO his show is as "real" as a TV show can get. Especially in that genre full of douchbags like DC and Bear Grills. Why? I respect what it takes to do all that filming by yourself, and to keep people interested in your show(entertaining), all on an empty stomach. I have enough reserves to last a week without food Id say, but I notice if Im gettin my butt kicked at work and miss all meals(I work 24 hour shifts) Im dang near retarded by the end of the shift. Sentences hard to put together in my head and out the mouth, tired, sore, headaches....Even a non diabetic can feel the symptoms of hypoglycemia. Trying to film a show like that has to be rough.

 

[Sagewood]

 

[j williams]

Les Stroud is the only TV "survival" personality that can entertain without advocating stupid risks.

 

[sasquatch1]

Strange days indeed............

I wonder what is next.
Maybe Dave and Bear should get a show called Don't Try this at Home.

Bear could light Dave on fire after Dave has just puposely had himself bitten by a rattlesnake. Bear will piss all over Dave to put out the fire. Bear will have Dave drink a gallon of bottom shelf bourbon as fast as possible. When Dave passes out, Bear will make an icewater enema for Dave. Dave will be awaken by the sudden influx of icewater up his ass and break Bears nose with a rock. Realizing what he's done, Dave will release the icewater enema all over Bears face to reduce the swelling in his newly broken nose.
They both will then strip off all clothes and jump into a raging glacier fed river and float down stream for no apparent reason. Getting out of the water, they enter into an embrace that both seem to enjoy just a.... little ...too.... much.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

holy **** that was the single funniest thing ive read in a long time. thats awesome. :thumbup::thumbup:

 

[stabman]

ARRRR, we're back to aliens teleporting us out of our comfort zone.

OK. I can see how this is totally relevant to "wilderness survival skills" :thumbup::thumbup:

How about plane goes down while on vacation?
Or car runs out of gas somewhere in another country, maybe one of those ones without roadside assistance?
Survival is what happens when crap occurs, not going out in the countryside for a camping excursion, even with minimal tools.

 

[SouthernCross]

G'day Stabman

How about plane goes down while on vacation?
Or car runs out of gas somewhere in another country, maybe one of those ones without roadside assistance?
Survival is what happens when crap occurs, not going out in the countryside for a camping excursion, even with minimal tools.

Care to show me how many here take plane trips to other environments where this may be a realistic consideration? And your trying to tell me that they don't carry any luggage with them on the trip?

If they do, I would really love to see their posts. :thumbup:

Out of curosity, are you sure your not thinking of the movie "The Edge" staring Anthony Hopkins & Alex Baldwin?



With regards to road trips, it seems to me that anyone who posts on internet forums that experience a severe winter, already pack a bag that has all they need to survive if their road trip is unexpectedly delated :thumbup:

Again, how many posts show that the regulars here venture out of their local area and into another country?

BTW, my imagination can run away on me as well if I allow it to. :thumbup:




Kind regards
Mick