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Jake Bauer

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I know there was a post not too long ago announcing this new show. But I finally got to see an episode yesterday. That hippie fella with no shoes is a moron. Especially since it was the moccasin infested swamp episode I was watching. Seemed like a cool show though. You guys liking it?
 
I wouldn't say Cody is a moron. He has gone without shoes for over 20 years to try to "return to his roots". Aborigine and other indigenous jungle peoples have gone barefoot for centuries in insect and poisonous reptile infested areas. While I would not do it, I respect the man for his decision to do so.
 
Jake Bauer said:
I know there was a post not too long ago announcing this new show. But I finally got to see an episode yesterday. That hippie fella with no shoes is a moron. Especially since it was the moccasin infested swamp episode I was watching. Seemed like a cool show though. You guys liking it?
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Moron?

Pretty tough words towards someone that walks through swamps and snow not even wearing shoes, without so much as a scratch.

It isnt the path that I would choose, but he seems to get along just fine.
 
Tripton said:
Moron?

Pretty tough words towards someone that walks through swamps and snow not even wearing shoes, without so much as a scratch.

It isnt the path that I would choose, but he seems to get along just fine.
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Agreed. Cody is a burly SOB - seems like the nicest guy in the world, but I doubt many internet tough guys would be so quick to call him a moron if they weren't hiding behind their keyboards.

After watching a few episodes, I tend to find myself siding with Cody's careful, methodical approach, over Dave's more flashy, risk taking outlook. I'm sure that is a deliberate difference being created for the sake of making the show dramatic, but the presentation of two very different approaches is really enjoyable to me. I don't expect anything other than some entertaining TV, with a little bit of knowledge being passed along during the way, and I end up really getting a kick out of the show, even when it's obvious that stuff is being played up for the cameras, for the sake of the Discovery producers.
 
I certainly wouldn't refer to Cody as a "moron" either. Other than the "no shoes" thing, I usually find myself agreeing more with his approach to survival (e.g. food gathering, risk-taking and so on) than Dave's. They both bring something to the show and it's interesting to the see contrasts in their styles.

I'm not sure which forum I read that it was posted on, but someone had suggested the show would be more interesting if they put both of them into an area separately and then followed each to see their different approaches. I think that that'd be an awesome show. :)

Check out Cody's books, "98.5 Degrees" and "When All Hell Breaks Loose". I have both and they're outstanding. He's definitely not a moron. ;)
 
th show is on youtube, so you can check it out even if you don't have cable.

i've heard that they're both good friends in real life, but that they treat each other like you see in he show normally... soo it's good natured ribbing and nothing truly adversarial.
 
MustardMan said:
Agreed. Cody is a burly SOB - seems like the nicest guy in the world, but I doubt many internet tough guys would be so quick to call him a moron if they weren't hiding behind their keyboards.

After watching a few episodes, I tend to find myself siding with Cody's careful, methodical approach, over Dave's more flashy, risk taking outlook. I'm sure that is a deliberate difference being created for the sake of making the show dramatic, but the presentation of two very different approaches is really enjoyable to me. I don't expect anything other than some entertaining TV, with a little bit of knowledge being passed along during the way, and I end up really getting a kick out of the show, even when it's obvious that stuff is being played up for the cameras, for the sake of the Discovery producers.
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I completely agree with EVERYTHING said here!!
I have been watching the episodes one You Tube since I first saw the thread.
 
Even tho going barefoot is alot healthier for your feet, there is a reason why the shoe was invented. The whole aborigine and other indigenous jungle peoples have been doing it for centuries isnt much of an argument. If anything it just shows the limitations of their fabrication skills.

Cody's shelter in the shipwreck episode was a work of art.

Also found a youtube channel with some of the episodes uploaded.

http://www.youtube.com/user/DualSurvival

"FAIR USE NOTICE: This youtube channel may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes only. This constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 of the US Copyright Law."
 
There he is.I seen that guy(cody) years ago he just appeared on a show I was watching once and I wondered what happened to him.
 
Cody and Dave seem like really nice guys that overall know what they are doing. Discovery wants ratings and unfortunatly conflict sells.... Still beats any of the other american idol, facebook, sheeple tv. Ive read all of Codys books, and I assure you he is not a moron. Respect other peoples lifestyles man. Thats what freedom is all about.

I wish that someone would take a more documentary style like Les Stroud did with Survivorman.
 
I totally agree with cody about the feet just from personal experience.I don't ever wear anything except comfy shoots and 1 pair of socks in cold weather.When I was younger I tried everything to keep my feet warm ,different boots, multiple pairs of socks,wool anything you can think of and all it ever did was make my feet sweat and freeze.Dry cold is better then wet cold.Now being cody has been going barefoot for 20 years his feet are tough enough to handle snow.They make an excelent team and show.

P.S. I never liked les stroud...lol
 
Dave is harsh in his comments, and it is probably just the editors trying to make it more interesting for TV. It is easy to see that Dave has a lot of respect for Cody. The part where he says that he doesn't have to worry about the fire going out because Cody will do everything he can to keep it going.

I think Dave is always trying to one up Cody and that might end up to be his downfall.

Really, they are like a survival dream team. This show would be very different and probably not be interesting at all if it were just one of them. Either of them could survive on their own, but watching Dave starving to find meat or Cody eating weird vegetables all day would not be very interesting.


I like the show. I don't know how long they can keep it up, though. How many different situations will they think up? Will they change it at some point?
 
I have really enjoyed the show from the beginning. Since Les Stroud is not really doing Survivorman much anymore I find Dual Survival very entertaining and informative. It's kind of interesting seeing their different survival tactics and how they deal with the situations.
 
Flame suits, flame suits!

Cody Lundin is probably one of the best known minimalist survival experts in the country. The youtube vid of his house is impressive. No shoes isn't for me, but to each his own. Like the show so far.

Now Myke Hawkes show Man, Woman, Wild.....
 
The one good thing about the show is that my wife enjoys the banter between them so she likes watching it. Because of that she has started asking "what If" questions and thinking about self reliance. No matter who does what on the show I thank everyone involved for creating a set of circumstances my wife enjoys to watch. I return she is beginning to take her head out of her fourth point of contact and paying attention to her own preparedness.
 
First of all we have to remember that ALL TV shows are for the entertainment factor - even FOX news and CNN. The more controversial the show is the higher the viewer rating. Like they always said about NASCAR, most people watch NASCAR for the wrecks, not the race.

As for going bare footed, it's definitley not my style but it's a way of life for most all of the indigenous tribes I have visited and worked with. You can give them shoes and they will still go shoeless most of the time. It's a born and bred survival tactic. The soles of the indigs feet are like 1/4" thick leather. They use their feet/toes as tools. Hell, most of them could never make Chambira cordage with their shoes on since they need their toes to hold one end as the braid. :D

There is also some scientific research being done now that shows people who naturally go barefooted have less feet problems, bone problems and lower extremity issues than the shoe wearers. This was brought up in the last class we taught. Can't remember who's doing the research or have any links to it, but it seems plausible to me.
 
my .02 - Cody is far from being a "moron". He is a minimalist survival expert...minimalist. Seems like going 20 years without shoes or long pants sort of defines his area of expertise. I agree with 99% of the posts...I wouldn't go without shoes either. I also wouldn't bad mouth a man who could probably survive a lot longer than I could in an emergency situation.

Personally, I like the show and I enjoy watching Dave and Cody.
 
R.A.T. said:
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I live here with a kid that does barefoot trail running and stuff.

Growing up one of my brothers closest friends would show up at the house after walking across town barefoot in the middle of winter.

There is def something to going barefoot...
 
R.A.T. said:
There is also some scientific research being done now that shows people who naturally go barefooted have less feet problems, bone problems and lower extremity issues than the shoe wearers. This was brought up in the last class we taught. Can't remember who's doing the research or have any links to it, but it seems plausible to me.
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Its been proven years ago that running barefoot strenghtens the bones, tendons and muscles in a whole different way. Studies have show that native/tribal barefoot runners run in a slightly different way than us, landing on the ball of their foot whereas runners with shoes land on their heels.

Wearing shoes in the civilized world for so many years have altered our way of running, so if we were to go barefoot now and run we'd end up with tons of injuries.

Nike sponsored a major bio-mechanical study and found out that training without shoes gave better results and less injuries. But since Nike makes shoes for a living, they couldnt recommend people to drop them so they marketed a line of running shoes and trainers called Nike Free. The footwear is designed to emulate the motion of running au naturel.

So going barefoot is not as moronic as some might think.
 
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