Dumped in the Woods--What Knife--What Gun?

I think you might be underestimating the skill level of some forum members.

Yes, that is undoubtedly true.

We probably have two or three ringers here who could do this without even losing any weight.....I guess I was thinking more of the average forum member when I dreamed this up.

:)

And yes, we certainly must grant all due respect to the late Ron Hood.

I'm sure he'd be proud to see that the Hoodlum has take a big lead in knife choices for this adventure.
 
UPDATED LIST OF KNIFE CHOICES:

Roll call of knives:

Bucklite—Silent Lynx
Hoodlum—Ohen Cepel, Hughewil, 2TONYB, Whetrock, Zombie Zeke, Slider817, tholiver, Caine, Scouter27, Horn Dog, Joe Houser,
Vanguard—Darthstrevel, Coyote Physics, Meanoldbobber,
103—Blademaster01
119—Badhammer, MBJ, Grim 62, Liberando, Sitflyer, Ohshoot,
Intrepid—Jarheadz, HKman47,
106—Buck110
124—Buck110, bigcountry1315, Sudonym, Shavingsharp,
Ergo Hunter—GGA357
Kaala—Longbow
185—Sithus
110—johnny twoshoes, Bertl,
110 154CM—ac1d0v3r1d3
110 Paperstone: Stumps
110 Two Dot –Razorblades
AG 110—JB45-70, Packrat,
112—300Bucks
301—Grateful
Smatchet—sigsaur,
317—runninmike,
Buck/Tops Nighthawk—battboy
121--BG
Buck Selector—110 Dave
112—Modoc ED
102—Modoc ED (Chose second knife instead of firearm), Bertl, TUF,
Bucklite Max--Northingeasting (orange handle)
Gransfors Axe--TUF (I know, this is not a Buck, but he defended the choice so expertly and eloquently that I couldn't refuse it.) :)

105--(Finally) ArfinGreebly,
Raven Legacy--Stainz


(We can always add more latecomers.)
 
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If we're going elk hunting I'll switch my choice to a .338 Lapua or .300 Rem Ultra Mag. Should work for squirrels too. ;)
 
You know, after some thought, I think I would prefer to upgrade the rifle.

The Papoose is a fine little rifle, lightweight, compact, easy to carry.

However, I also have an SU-16A. The SU-16 is also a "take-down" of sorts, in that it folds up and will ride comfortably in a pack or strapped to the side. It's very light, just over five pounds. If you count two half-loaded magazines (which stow in the stock), you're right at six pounds and a bit.

The 5.56 NATO chambering will eat anything. I've fed mine some of the most gawd-awful reloads, and the rifle just keeps running. There are two light, compact 10-round factory magazines with each rifle. Load one with five rounds of standard ball ammo, and the other with 5x of a good varmint round.

The result is way more versatile than the papoose, even giving you a decent chance of taking deer-sized game, should the need arise.

Still gonna need the red dot, though.

 
I like the .223 in this scenario (only if you have the skill not to blow small game all to hell, though.....that round will pulverize stuff even with the full metal jacket ammo).

I also like (some may not have noticed) the choice of two magazines when one ten-round mag would carry all the ammo you have.

Magazines are the weak link in auto rifles and if one malfunctions and you only have one......you now have a single-shot rifle.

They can also be lost.

So.....good choices, I think. I'm not sure how the red-dot holds up in case of a lot of rain, but you can always fall back on iron sights.

Glad you stuck with the 105, since you are the only one in the entire thread that chose one.

:D
 
A .223 is a good choice. I have always been intrigued with the thought of one in an old Ruger #3. You can put a pistol grip stock from #1 on the rifle and rework the lever to accommodate it. You don't have to worry about magazine failure if you don't use one! These little rifles are self contained and easy to clean from the breech. They used to be inexpensive but I have no idea what one would fetch today.
 
I'd have to have my Katadyn 'Hiker' water filter... what could I swap? Flour? Peanut butter instead of coffee? I'd settle in on fishing immediately. Wild edibles - some for tea. I'd carry my 4" 629 (.44M) with two 300gr LSWC's and six 240gr SP's in .44 Magnum and two 200 gr Gold Dots in .44 Special for thin-skinned - threats only. Knife? I like the upgraded blade metal (S30V) on my #895 Buck/Simonich Raven Legacy, but I wouldn't mind one bit 'just' having my 192 Vanguard in CPM154 - or even 'just' a 119! Not much for prepacked meals - or beans - saving them would be easy - if the fish 'bite'!

Stainz

PS What could I trade for a satelite phone... so I could call out for pizza delivery or a night in a lodge, a la Bear Grylls?
 
Oh sure......you get a water filter......now ALL the kids will want one.

:D

I guess coffee is important enough to some people that it could be traded for a jar of peanut butter.

The big .44 is a substantial comfort when things go bump in the night, that's for sure.

I think I would have taken six LSWCs in .44 Special for small game and four heavy loads for threats, but hey......to each his own.

We'll mark you down as Raven Legacy, that's the first one of those.

Still amazed at the wide range and diversity of knife choices.

:)
 
While I am a decent shot, the Mark 23 turns me into a crack shot. I can repeatedly hit 20oz bottles at 75 yards so I think the occasional small animal would be fine.
 
That's excellent shooting with a big handgun.

You would undoubtedly do great on bunnies or grouse at 20 yards.

:)
 
20 yards would be fine, there was one time that a crazed ground hog was threatening my life and the 45 thankfully was enough gun for him, ended his assault with 1 shot!!!!!
 
Well, if you waited until the last few yards of his charge.....the muzzle blast probably killed him.

:D
 
hee hee if it were limited to a hand gun ..
my new toy woud be the one it take with my 110 selector
the new S&W govener
shoots
45 acp
45 long colt
410 slug or 000buck or #6 shot
also there is a self defense round incase some two legged criter
wants to make off with your MRE's or rabbit what is cooking right well
and fits in a big pocket..;):D
 
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Ron Hood's Hoodlum. Because a big knife can do a small task, but a small knife can't to a big one. Or any other quality made BIG knife, like Becker, Ranger, ESEE, Busse or the like. Gun? Any good .22.
 
I'm a very late comer to this but I think I would want a Hoodlum. I dont know much about guns other than I would not want to be stuck carrying my .270 around for more than a day. I'm thinking a good light .22. It would be great for shooting critters for food, and if a big old bear came after me, one shot to my temple and I would be feeling no pain right?
 
UPDATED LIST OF KNIFE CHOICES:

Roll call of knives:

Bucklite—Silent Lynx

*****Hoodlum—Ohen Cepel, Hughewil, 2TONYB, Whetrock, Zombie Zeke, Slider817, tholiver, Caine, Scouter27, Horn Dog, Joe Houser, Scott Hartman,

Vanguard—Darthstrevel, Coyote Physics, Meanoldbobber,
103—Blademaster01
119—Badhammer, MBJ, Grim 62, Liberando, Sitflyer, Ohshoot,
Intrepid—Jarheadz, HKman47,
106—Buck110
124—Buck110, bigcountry1315, Sudonym, Shavingsharp,
Ergo Hunter—GGA357
Kaala—Longbow
185—Sithus
110—johnny twoshoes, Bertl,
110 154CM—ac1d0v3r1d3
110 Paperstone: Stumps
110 Two Dot –Razorblades
AG 110—JB45-70, Packrat,
112—300Bucks
301—Grateful
Smatchet—sigsaur,
317—runninmike,
Buck/Tops Nighthawk—battboy
121--BG
Buck Selector—110 Dave
112—Modoc ED
102—Modoc ED (Chose second knife instead of firearm), Bertl, TUF,
Bucklite Max--Northingeasting (orange handle)
Gransfors Axe--TUF (I know, this is not a Buck, but he defended the choice so expertly and eloquently that I couldn't refuse it.) :)

105--(Finally) ArfinGreebly,
Raven Legacy--Stainz


(We can always add more latecomers.)

*****Hoodlum most chosen knife with 12 votes.
 
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This has really turned out to be an excellent thread.

A .44 caliber revolver is a good choice. Loaded with a hard cast 215-240 grain bullet over some SR4756 to about 1200 fps will kill anything you want without destroying small game if you are careful where you shoot. It is also a pleasant load to shoot without all the noise and flash of a full bore magnum load.

I'm not too picky about gear most of the time. I do like things that I know work and that I have used myself. I'm not a Buck collector and only a have a few that I have had since the late 60's - early 70's. I chose the 102 as that was the first hunting knife I ever owned (still have it). My father gave it to me in about 1967. I cleaned a gazillion deer and elk with it. Still looks good although I haven't used it since the late 70's. But it is a capable blade. Even though I typically have a custom or a Randall on my belt I wouldn't feel handicapped with that little Buck.

In a survival situation your gear just needs to work to survive. Anything past the basics is for comfort. Which is nice too, but you don't need much to live. The more intimate the knowledge you have of an area the better off you will be. Who knows if you have good shelter and fuel you might have enough time on your hands to get fat!
 
A filter will not kill the things in the water you can't see which can kill you. Boiling water in the small pot from the stream is the way to go.

You made this too easy. Obtaining food would just be a waiting game by the stream or lake for thirsty critters. 20 days with 10 rounds would mean one animal of a mere two to three pounds which will provide food for two days each. There's no need to even worry about preserving the flesh. It'll hold for a day with no problem once it's cooked.

Good advice.

I probably DID make this too easy for those who have a LOT of survival knowledge.

Of course......those of us who have hunted a lot know that a lot of things can go wrong and you can come up empty handed and with no meat in your belly quite often.

:)
 
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