DYAD history/variations

Hi Gene,

thanx for the memory trip.

I just sold my last bike (Honda VTR1000). Gettin' a little too old for knee draggin' and "cruising's" not my thing on a bike. I'll think about the Monarch's as I go up Mt. Evans (near my house).

Hi Zerileous,

We've got a few ideas we're working on. I'd like to bring back the Dyad, at least in spirit. A double CRK integral lock or double integral compression would be preferred. Lighter and thinner than the originals.

The jigged bone (both sides) piece is likely to be expensive, ($125 - 150 MSRP). The sales dept had a meeting Friday on the model as a "Sprint" and cost was a big concern.

sal
 
Mr. Glesser why can't there be a new Dyad with twin Hawkbill blades? Certainly that wouldn't transcend any patents would it? Just look how my "New Hawkbill" thread has been doing on the Spyderco Forum. I just know deep down in my gut that there would be quite a market for it. Also you know how nice looking those colored FRN C-39s were. What about making a Dyad with Colored Micarta handles with all sorts of blade variation possibilities? But with all the Spyderco collectors I personally know who have become enamored with the Plain Edge Hawkbills would this be the very best of both worlds not only for the Hawkbill lovers but look at the Fishing/maritime market if you were to make a dual Hawkbill in the celebrated H-1. There has got to be a way to bring in a new Dyad ( both resurrect the C-39 & C-44). I have been hoarding Dyads for the last year now and I personally think it was one of your top 5 Spyderco knives you guys ever produced. IF anyone would EDC this knife they would be mind blown. Joe Dotson-Grain Valley Missouri aka JD Spydo
 
having something done on one side is half full (cause i am an optimist) but it seems half done..i think think it would be worth it..the mini's on ebay are goin for 100-125..same as a brand new jig would cost..
 
Last spring on Ebay there was a nice run on Spyderco Dyads. I even seen one of them fetch $285. To my remembrance that is an all time high for the doubled bladed delight. I also seen about 6 of them break the $200+ mark. That is why I have been hoarding them for the last 15 months or so. I have a prediction which will probably go against the grain of most collectors. I predict that the little C-39 Micarta version will ultimately go for much higher than even the big C-44P&S version will. I don't think that the average collector has any idea of how rare that piece already is. I also predict that the colored FRN C-39s will go through the roof because they are getting close to impossible to find now.

Mark my words: Within 2 years or so the Dyads will be up in the same league as the Jigged bone Jess Horns, Carbon Fiber PE Cililian, The R and many other tough to find classics. OK you all can disagree with me :confused: That's cool. But remember what I said because people will wish they got them while they could be gotten fairly reasonably. ;)
 
I couple nights ago a thoguht slipped out over on spyderco.com forums and I figured I would give it a go in the dyad thread.

What about varying blade thicknesses. Perhapse a 2 or 2.5mm blade for delicate stuff, and a 4mm blade for tougher cuts. I am thinking something along the lines of a clipped full flat grind might work. Also a centofante III style blade would be agreat thin cutter.

This would add even more variables unless you just decided to set the thick blade with SE and the thin with PE, but I think it would be awesome.

This would also basically make abuisng the small edge impossible, allowing for some perhapse very very thin grinds. A zero bevel full flat grind would be awesome for the thin blade. On the other hand, you can maximize the thick blade for hevy cutting without worrying about it being too clumsy for smaller chores.

What do you guys think?
 
Went to a knife show yesterday, and found and bought a mini Dyad in black FRN for $40. Seems to be almost LNIB...good deal, I think! Same place I found a Micarta version last year. I have to agree - I think these will only become more desirable over time :thumbup:
 
That's exactly why I have been hoarding all of the Dyads I can get my hands on. I am already seeing signs of the big C-44P&S Dyad starting to demand some pretty serious change. To me they are like Bank CDs I can enjoy or trade or play with or just use as I see fit. I have been carrying as an EDC for about 6 months now a C-44P&S Dyad. At first it seemed just slightly a little bulky in my pocket. But I have gotten used to it. It is so versatile and the 2 blades can virtually do any task I demand of them. I truly think it is time for the leaders at the Great Spyder Factory to consider making a new, improved version and re-introducing it. You can't go wrong with a Dyad. Not even the FRN version that edb got the other day. It is the best "all purpose" knife I think Spyderco ever made ;)
 
I have heard a little "platter chatter" about whether or not the Great Spyder Factory is going to Re-Introduce a new rendition of the Dyad. Is there any possibility of a hawkbill, double bladed Dyad maybe? Or are there any plans for a new Dyad of any type.

Does anyone else other than me like the Dyad ( C-44P&S) as well as I do and would like to see such a creature come about? ;)
 
We're working on several designs and we're thinking about a "Sprint" run on one of the Jigged bone models.

We believe a dual-bladed model (one plain and one with teeth) has good working merit. The goal is light, strong.

Size is of paramount issue in the early design stages because ergos are so difficult on a twin bladed model with opening holes.

I would be interested to hear what size would, in your opinion, create the most valuable "working" tool? My design would not be "look cool" so much as "work hard".

Once we've got a design that works well, we can always make it "more custom".

sal
 
Hi Sal

I think a fancy Dyad would be swell. How much would such a knife weigh if it were the same size as the old big Dyad? The little one is probably too small for "hard use". I think in between these two sized would be great. Maybe 75-80 mm blades.
 
Mr. Glesser I do have an extreme affinity for the C-44P&S. The full sized one is such a nice working size and can do many more jobs than the C-39 could. It is now my EDC and has been for some time now. However I do occasionally carry the little C-39 Micarta Version as well. AS long as it has a quality handle like Micarta, G-10, Titanium I can be somewhat negotiable on size.

Not trying to belabor my desire for a Hawkbill Dyad but you and I both know that there are several people who have chimed in on the Hawkbill ( factory Forum) thread agreeing that would be a nice set up. As many people I am hearing now who have discovered the value of a Plain edged Hawkbill to me it would only make sense to test that one out. You could have 2 blades the same size as the Harpy with a G-10 handle. That would be super. I am sure the fishing industry and others would love it.

I also think one with an ALMITE handle like that one the Massad Ayoob used to have would make a nice size and add an element of extreme durability for a newer DYAD.
 
Mr. Glesser,
IMHO, a jigged bone Mini Dyad, or slightly larger, would be great. I have a large and small dyad. The larger version was fine but the ergos seemed a bit off for me due to the blade that remained closed. On the other hand, the mini was great to use as the closed blade did not interfere with any manipulations while cutting.

Secondly, jigged bone handles with metal bolsters, again IMHO, would add a bit of heft to the mini; making for a stabler tool while doing precise cutting.

Plus, there is the seemingly current fashion where knife companies are making smaller knives that carry a punch. A mini size, with the PE and SE blades, would do that.

The funny thing about a jigged mini is that Spyderco has a rep for 'fugly' (no offense meant or implied) yet functional knives. A nice jigged bone Mini Dyad can show others Spyderco can make functional and beautiful pieces.
 
Would it be feasible to even think about having a Dyad ( with the current size that is being proposed) to be made with a G-10 handle? IF not G-10 then what about the Almite like was used on the older "R" knife? If this is a bad idea I would like to know why. Also what about the possibility of a sprint run with Carbon Fiber handles. JD :)
 
I do like the idea of the Dyad possibly coming back with a "jigged bone" handle. However with all due respect I personally believe that is stopping short. I can't help but believe that as nice as that blade originally was that there could be many other possibilities. I do know of the patent problems that existed with the first 2 models ( C-39 & C-44).

There has just got to be ways around that. If nothing else just go to the Patent holder and cut a deal of some sort. After all it has been a while. I guess maybe there are folks on this Forum who probably think that I am borderline "wacko" because of me beating the drum so much for the Dyad. Just like there are so many people who adore the BUCK model 110 ( and rightfully so) and I know many others adore this model as well.

I still believe that a Dyad Hawkbill would be rather adventurous and would be a "GOD send" to the Maritime arena. I think that you could even get creative and maybe come up with a "survivalist" edition with all of the hoop-La be marketed in that area. Well if nothing else I will probably have the satisfaction of seeing my Dyads rise in value and popularity in the next 2 to 3 years.
 
i think that they should make a piece that has one blade (not a dyad at all) using the alligator shaped blade that the dyad has in it..
 
That is the first tiime ever I had heard of one suggested with stainless handles. That would be incredibly good around marine conditions for sure. I can't tell you how many times I can use 2 blades for work of all types but I know it would be particular around those conditions. I'm for it. :)
 
I'm interested in a sprint run dyad (particularly mini size, or just slightly larger than the old mini) with just about any handle, but the jigged bone would be especially sweet...over the years, I've noticed it often actually looks nicer than stag.
 
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