Eating meat if you had to kill your intake?

I'd be up sh!t's creek if I had to kill and prepare my own meat.... I have no clue how to do it, but I'm sure I could teach myself pretty quickly if it meant that is the only way I could consume meat.

I'd be fine catching and cleaning fish though :)

That being said - I would eat less because it would be A LOT of work to do it myself, but I would still eat meat.
 
and I know that animals can read intent very well

Rick

Rick nailed it right there, I have been in the same area's that Rick and KGD, and you can get close to the Deer , heck my inlaws have foot prints in the snow under there windows, BUt the second I get the stupid idea to tackle one and dispatch it with my trusty EDC ( sadly it has crossed my mind) the are gone . as if they know some thing bad is going to happen (probly to me).


I would try what I could to get smaller more managable game , heck a whitetail deer can clear a six foot fence with out batting and eye, I really wouldn't want to get a boot in the head by one, besides that coyote,foxes and in some parts wolves,bears and large cats would be all over the smell of that kill and I really don't want to be the deer blood covered holder of the meat when a pack of hungry coyotes comes in. personally even if I could take a deer in a survival situation I can't say that the risk it.

I would trap what I could and forage to the best I could first.But forage first,
less risk of injury.

cya
jimi
 
Deer are creatures of habit and with the right material, easily snared. If one is still alive, stabbing it with a knife is a very real possibility.

Please understand that I am talking about a survival situation, snaring deer is against the law everywhere. Chris
 
Jimi..... the next time we're out..... I say we try to ride one of those whitetails or atleast rope one.... he he.... get it on video for these guys.... wear a cup.
 
Jimi..... the next time we're out..... I say we try to ride one of those whitetails or atleast rope one.... he he.... get it on video for these guys.... wear a cup.

Friend of mine roped one from a boat as it was swimming a lake, when they hit dry land things got very interesting. If yall give it a try let me know, I'll run the video camera....from a distance. :D Chris
 
Ha remember this story... I think TTD posted it awhile ago. Funny stuff.

Roping a Deer

Actual letter from someone who farms, writes well and tried this!

I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed
it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that,
since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much
fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up
and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4
feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and
toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport
it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope. The
cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were
not having any of it.

After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up -- 3 of them. I picked
out....a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and
threw..my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me. I wrapped
the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good
hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it
was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation. I took a step
towards it...it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and
then received an education.

The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand
there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when
you start pulling on that rope.

That deer EXPLODED.
The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT
stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I
could fight down with a rope and with some dignity.

A deer-- no chance.

That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no
controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off
my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me
that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had
originally imagined.

The only up side is that they do not have as much stamina as many other
animals. A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick
to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me
a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood
flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for
corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end
of that rope.

I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it
would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no
love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing,
and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had
cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various
large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think
clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared
some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I
didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get
it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before
hand...kind of like a squeeze chute.

I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope
back. Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years
would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised
when... I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold
of my wrist.

Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where
they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its
head --almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and
draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was
ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several
minutes, but it was likely only several seconds.

I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim
by now), tricked it. While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my
right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose.
That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.

Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on
their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and
their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an
animal --like a horse --strikes at you with their hooves and you can't
get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and
make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them
to back down a bit so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would
not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy.
I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.

The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a
horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit
you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after
all,besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I
turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me
down, Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not
immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What
they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you
are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head. I finally
managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.
 
I'm laughing outloud by myself right now, Tony....... best deer story ever....


Just for the record I wasn't planning on roping one for real... but I'm willing to bet Jimi would do it in a heartbeat... he IS THAT GUY!..... lol.
 
should have changed the title from intake to inlaws.....
 
LOL great deer story! I have a friend who had a similar story!!! glorious!!!
 
TexasTony gets the credit on that story. He posted it awhiles back, but it has circulated via email quite abit. It still cracks me up every time I read it.
 
If I had to kill my own food I reckon I would eat about the same, but I would need a big freezer.

I aim to eat about a kilo of chicken and 250-500grams of red meat a day so my thinking is I would need to kill something like an ostrich every 2 months and a cow every 6. I reckon I could handle killing that, mind you I would want something like a ballpein hammer for the cow.
 
I'm laughing outloud by myself right now, Tony....... best deer story ever....


Just for the record I wasn't planning on roping one for real... but I'm willing to bet Jimi would do it in a heartbeat... he IS THAT GUY!..... lol.

HELL YA let go deer ropin YEE HAW!!! LMAO



RoyalM , they have many ostrich running around the bonny foot hills o Scotland? :D


cya
jimi
 
In response to your OP Talfuchre. Yes, I would attempt to eat more in fact. I try limit my families intake of domestic meat (except for poultry unfortunately:o) and dairy because of all the "additives". I have raised chickens, rabbits, cattle and goats for food supply, but it is cost prohibitive on a larger scale than hunting is nowadays. I am currently getting prepared for more fishing and hunting for food and recreation as I have been out of circulation off and on for awhile. If we had no meat production though, I would definitely take my position as the "meat winner" of the family more serious. If I had to do it with a knife only, it would be more of a challenge. Especially if I had to compete with others. Hunting with a knife is novel in current times, but still completely viable if meat is to be put on the table and especially if there were no alternatives.
 
I grew up on a hog farm, where we killed and butchered up to ten head every year during my childhood and early teen years.

Meat processing is a lot of work, especially if you don't have the skills or tools to get the job done properly.

I would certainly want to eat plenty of meat, but the availability is always an issue. Areas can easily be hunted out, and livestock is very precious, in the sense that it takes time and resources to raise them up to butchering size.

I have found that goats, hogs and chickens are good returners on investment, as chickens lay eggs as well as reproduce relatively rapidly. Goats can give milk and can eat most anything. Hogs can also eat anything, also reproduce readily.

I have no ethical issues with the production and consumption of meat. It's what humans have done since we became humans, and before.

Andy
 
I grew up on a hog farm, where we killed and butchered up to ten head every year during my childhood and early teen years.

Meat processing is a lot of work, especially if you don't have the skills or tools to get the job done properly.

I would certainly want to eat plenty of meat, but the availability is always an issue. Areas can easily be hunted out, and livestock is very precious, in the sense that it takes time and resources to raise them up to butchering size.

I have found that goats, hogs and chickens are good returners on investment, as chickens lay eggs as well as reproduce relatively rapidly. Goats can give milk and can eat most anything. Hogs can also eat anything, also reproduce readily.

I have no ethical issues with the production and consumption of meat. It's what humans have done since we became humans, and before.

Andy

Luckily for us Texans, feral hogs are all over the place :D Meat year round and no limit either.

Sounds like I better get a few goats and a dozen chickens for the meat market apocalypse :p

Good points too :thumbup:
 
Hunting with knives would only be practical with good dogs, guys in africa, new zealand etc hunt boars with dogs and finish with a knife. I've slaughtered thousands of hogs and I would not get near a boar without a spear, F##k the knife, they are savage and deer will kick your head off.
 
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