ebayer Not so honest. beware.

Koj, you're good at give but not at receive it.

read your post .. i. e. quote:

"....It's time to stop whining. It's time to stop regurgitating excuses like I thought this...I think he meant that...he should have told me this...he didn't elaborate fully and completely enough for me....blah blah blah...well you know what? Tough beans. Complaining now after the fact about the condition of the knife falls right in line with the complaint in the initial post about the shipping cost. Guess what? If the shipping charge was too much, you shouldn't have paid it in the first place. Don't pay it and then turn around after the fact and complain about it...."

i think after that , it could be my turn to use a little sarcasm on you.. or not ?

anyway. for me it's closed. too much wasted bytes.

bye
 
koj11 said:
Your statement is inaccurate. To make your statement correct, you would need to replace the word "is" with the word "was".
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Semantics. The person knew the knife's tip had been broken. He decided to keep that to himself. His ethics suck and I can see no defense for them. If anybody pulled that crap around here they would be figuratively tarred and feathered and road out of town on a rail.
 
well keith
this is exactly what i thought..but my wroten english is not so subtle :)

you and others expressed what i stated - maybe not enuf - ..
- the error was mine, in trustin people like i do here.
- literally, the answer was correct.
- BUT ethically, or if you prefer, for the ethics of BF, the answer wasnt correct.or sufficent

and i'm not here whining -sorry,but cant stand this attitude -
only to confirm or not my impression that - error is mine ,ok ok ok- the seller's conduct here would be rejected.

btw, he still didnt respond to my email (a really polite one), and i think he'll never do , if this is the case, i assume that all was done with a dubious intention. BUT WAS MY FAULT. and all is IMHO.

thanks and regards everybody -also koj, your point of view is respected.
 
koj11 said:
No way. If I'm looking to buy a product of any sort, and I don't have a complete picture, I think there might be a problem, I hear a word I don't understand, I can't get all the info I need, the the only one I have to blame for shelling out my hard earned money anyways is myself. There's no way I would have bought that knife without seeing another picture that showed the tip as well as the rest of the knife, and I have a suspicion that that would be true of most people who responded to this thread.

There needs to come a time when people stop trying to blame others for their own lack of judgement. I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but sometimes you don't have anyone to blame for getting taken but yourself. It's time to stop whining. It's time to stop regurgitating excuses like I thought this...I think he meant that...he should have told me this...he didn't elaborate fully and completely enough for me....blah blah blah...well you know what? Tough beans. Complaining now after the fact about the condition of the knife falls right in line with the complaint in the initial post about the shipping cost. Guess what? If the shipping charge was too much, you shouldn't have paid it in the first place. Don't pay it and then turn around after the fact and complain about it. Nobody had a gun to the buyer's head forcing them to buy this inadequate product. If you buy a used product without all the necessary information and then find you didn't get what you wanted, you have only yourself to blame.

Take some responsibility for your own actions for God's sake. This whole blame game is childish and irresponsible.
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:barf: :barf: :barf: nuff said :rolleyes:
 
update: i received this email from seller:

"I bought the knife brand new and the knife has not been reprfiled or neither has the tip been broken. Yes it was used as I stated but the tip was never broken.
Brian"

well, 1 cm of blade less , (in next hour i'll post a scan) ..somethin happened.

or he really knows nothing of knives , or the situation is as Sifu1a ,Tombstone Keith and others described.

anyway , we build a really long thread , for 1 cm of steel :)
 
if works, here i posted a comparison.
maybe i'm totally wrong, and i need to apologise to koj and the seller, or maybe i'm right and this knife was reprofiled , the seller say no.

really i dont know, i have an idea, of course, but maybe my knowledge of knives isnt enough this time.

tell me what do you think, at the moment i'm interested as a knifenut, not for the deal gone sour.

thanks

cfdd.jpg

http://www.gnm.it/cfdd.jpg
 
disorder said:
maybe i'm totally wrong, and i need to apologise to koj and the seller, or maybe i'm right and this knife was reprofiled , the seller say no.
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I never disagreed with you about whether or not the knife was reprofiled. We are on the same page there.

No apology will be necessary regardless of how it turns out.
 
if the seller lived near me, I would've given him a beating. please, that's half the original blade. people hide behind half-truths and semantics only cos their own moral compasses tell them that if they told the truth, they may not get the price they're asking for.

and no crap about caveat emptor, buyer beware etc. if one wanted to throw that in, I'd throw in the concept of "reasonableness" and "gross / negligent misrepresentation" and "constructive knowledge" as well.
 
Unless the scale of those pictures is different or something like that, the bottom knife's point has not just been refiled, but the blade has been completly altered.

The seller is a dumb person or lieing.
 
Dave, i can assure you there's no photoshop work there. i simply put the two knives at same handle dimension (as a reference ) and same dpi.
1cm of blade is lost.

and i think the last answer of the seller, plus the image that doesnt show the tip and the answer to my direct question before bidding clearly state that i'm a dumb person for bidding on this item .. i was simply "doped" from the lots of good deals i've done here on BF, and trusted that "new" seller.

btw, i think you all agree if i post the seller's handle on ebay : shortman20 ,still 100% positive feedbacks but i'll provide shortly ;)
 
I would post the picture on Spyderco forum. It looks like the knife in question has totally different blade. Maybe the tip was not broken after all... Can you imagine how much work it would take to change the profile of the blade - the spine of the blade would have to be altered a lot.

David

Edited: On a second thought it looks like it was broken and the edge was reprofiled... or the knife was used a lot....
 
koj11 said:
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...
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no, leeeffffffftttttt ..........:rolleyes:

ok, I got carried away - that's not important. bottomline is the seller is a jerk.
 
In my opinion, the seller needs to be tied to a big tree, and have somebody like Tiger Woods hit golf balls at him from about 25 ft away. :barf:
 
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