EDC and Personal defence folding knife.

So, you have a bunch of bodybuilding felons armed with baseball bats roaming the streets where you live? :eek:
Remind me not to move wherever you're from! :D

That would be Houston, TX. The turds get locked up and have nothing to do but pump iron and eat. They get dumped off at a greyhound station about half a mile from where I work, with the clothes on their back and 20 bucks. Never a dull moment around here.
 
the only thing i didnt like about the talwar was that the g10 handle was too rough for me personally, so i sanded my handles down and made them nice and smooth and i like it better now. some people like real rough g10 handles though.
 
this is off topic but I'm just curious .... does Brazil have concealed carry permits for firearms?
 
Cold Steel Kudu or Cold Steel Eland (slightly larger version of the Kudu.)
Under $10 USD for either one. Solid lockup, no blade play, shaving sharp out if the box.

Opinel 8 or 9 might be another option.
 
in my opinion the best knife in that price range is a spyderco endura. the endura is a very strong and reliable knife. also the spyderco salt series has rust proof blades.

The Endura is a great knife for SD because it is long enough to be useful and light enough not to be left at home.
 
So, you have a bunch of bodybuilding felons armed with baseball bats roaming the streets where you live? :eek:
Remind me not to move wherever you're from! :D

There may have been a topic on this previously but the walking stick is a popular defense choice for those who can't afford anything better or have felony convictions and cannot legally carry a firearm.

I see tons of people around here (mostly blacks) walking around with big sticks...usually on a trip to the corner store or ATM.

Just yesterday I saw a lady with a baseball bat over her shoulder walking down the street.

In all honestly I'd probably want something like a stick or bat for defense if it came down to it. Knives are close quarter defense weapons anyway but you can't beat the convenience and portability of them.
 
Ok guys, I think I'll order it tomorrow. I think I'll get the talwar. But looking at that buck and knowing I won't have it kind of hurts.

What do you guys think of my final decision, the Talwar?
http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Steel-21TTL-Talwar-4-Inch/dp/B00BD4W1OK

Looks good to me & has qualities I like in a hard use folder: Tri-Ad lock and can be waved open. AUS-8A has worked fine for me as a steel. Easy to maintain & takes a good edge. And in your price range.
Go for it ! :)
 
Knives are great for SD, because I heard this one police force actually trains with them, and I hear this one cop this one time stabbed a guy to retain his weapon...

No, not just for those reasons. Knives are great for self defense because they are not single-use tools. So they can be carried, as you phrased it, "to cut stuff," but can also be pressed into service as remarkably effective weapons. Contrary to what others have said here, they do not require training to use. In fact, they are extremely intuitive. Nobody needs practice to know how to hurt someone quite badly with a knife. And I don't care how musclebound the Joe Felon in your scenario may be, his muscle is no more resistant to severing than anyone else's, which is to say that it's hardly resistant at all to a sharp, strong knife.

I'm not touting a knife as the be-all, end-all of self-defense. But you are woefully misinformed if you think it won't work--and, in most circumstances, work well--in that capacity.


The guy came at the ipod wearer with his knife concealed. No way you could deploy anything in that situation.

Completely agree. There just isn't much one can do to fend off that kind of attack.

The ipod kid was dumb. First for getting himself into the situation and second for not giving up the ipod fast.

Completely disagree. And I truly hope you don't ever take that blame-the-victim attitude with you into a jury box. Waiting at a bus station is "getting himself into a situation?" And he didn't permit himself to get robbed fast enough to suit you? You are whistling past the graveyard. That poor guy could have been any one of us, no matter how well trained or hyper-vigilant we might be.

What the criminal did in that attack is to deliver a preemptive strike to dominate, stun, disorient, and cow his victim. It's called "softening up the target." Almost nothing the victim could have done would have kept him from getting stabbed/slashed in that scenario.


What do you guys think of my final decision, the Talwar?

Ronnyls, I think that you made a great choice and that you're going to love the Talwar. In fact, when I read your initial inquiry, the Talwar was the first knife that I thought of that matched your criteria. A SAK is a great knife and a useful tool, but I suspect you're going to be mightily impressed by the sturdiness and build quality of the Talwar. It feels fantastic in the hand, too.

Welcome to the Forums! Please let us know what you think when you get your new knife.

-Steve
 
No one answered his question about his brother bringing a knife in his checked baggage?

I know that Brazil customs has some strict rules. I wanted to bring an extra Apple airbook laptop there for my GF and I think they only allow one per person or they will charge 100% value of what Brazil charges for a APlle laptop laptop....which is like 3x more than here in the U.S.

Same thing with Iphones and such.
 
Mr Whip, I didn't mean that knives don't make effective weapons in some cases. In some cases they do. In some they don't. What I mean is: don't plan on it. Carry a knife for utility, and if you have to, and there's NO getting out if it, or any better means of defense - sure! Use it!
You seem to have overlooked one part of my scenario. Joe Felon has an aluminum baseball bat. Also, he won't stand there and let you get inside the bat's reach to get at all that "easily severable muscle". Keep in mind, he's intending to do you harm too.
So what do you do? Whip out the ol folder and go full spider monkey?
 
Mr Whip, I didn't mean that knives don't make effective weapons in some cases. In some cases they do. In some they don't. What I mean is: don't plan on it. Carry a knife for utility, and if you have to, and there's NO getting out if it, or any better means of defense - sure! Use it!
You seem to have overlooked one part of my scenario. Joe Felon has an aluminum baseball bat. Also, he won't stand there and let you get inside the bat's reach to get at all that "easily severable muscle". Keep in mind, he's intending to do you harm too.
So what do you do? Whip out the ol folder and go full spider monkey?

How fast can Joe run backwards away from him if he really wants to get close with his knife? If Joe Felon really runs faster backwards then you forward then please let him.

If he comes close to hit you with his bat then go even closer so he can't hit you anymore and you can use whatever you have. Cling on so he can't get away anymore to use his bat.
While he is swinging and committed he will be less able to keep his distance.

Just for fun, cover a bat of usual size and weight in foam and ask a friend to really hit you full force and speed, you at the same time move forward. Why not a foam stick to begin with? They are too light and your friend will probably hit you a couple of times and be able to move around fast while tapping you lightly many times. A heavy baseball bat however will restrict him and if you are brave and move close he will hit you once and chances are he will not even hit you with the most effective tip of the bat but only with the middle of it.
 
A heavy baseball bat? I told ya - Joe Felon is 6' 2", 250 pounds, fresh out of prison, all muscle. The bat's aluminum. Doesn't weigh anything to him. He wants your money. If you don't give it to him, he wants to bust your head like a melon. If you'd "run in close full force" into that, feel free to take the "home run" to the dome. I'd run or bust 2 hollow points center mass and call it a day. I would not, however pull out a folder and run at him all ninja-like. You wouldn't either. Not at some of these monsters I see around here.
Anyhow, I've said my piece on the matter. If you'd go for it, you're a better man than I am, Gunga Din. :thumbup:
 
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Mr Whip, I didn't mean that knives don't make effective weapons in some cases. In some cases they do. In some they don't. What I mean is: don't plan on it. Carry a knife for utility, and if you have to, and there's NO getting out if it, or any better means of defense - sure! Use it!
You seem to have overlooked one part of my scenario. Joe Felon has an aluminum baseball bat. Also, he won't stand there and let you get inside the bat's reach to get at all that "easily severable muscle". Keep in mind, he's intending to do you harm too.
So what do you do? Whip out the ol folder and go full spider monkey?

Hey, with enough caffine in my system, I probably could go full spider monkey. You one the other hand.....well I just don't take you to be the spider monkey type:p:D

Seriously though, it's not all that tricky if you're reasonably athletic and know how to keep you calm under stress. Couple quick and well timed movements and you're in a place to do some damage. The bat is a range weapon, so as long as you get close enough to where he can't land any big swings, you can control the bat and at the very least mess up his forearms with your blade. All you have to do then is deal with any kicks or knees he tries to throw to get you off, and keep cutting away to keep him preoccupied. Then you can go from there depending on how he responds. He may very well be deterred once he sees the blood start flowing. But even if he's not, you've got some good options from there. You can give him a big front kick to the stomach to create some space so that you can start running. Or if running is still not an option and he's not backing down, you can try going for the throat or face while you're still in close.

Nasty way to fight though. Yuck. I'm not sure Id have the stomach for it. Doing it in training is one thing, but inflicting that kind of damage on a person for real is another entirely. Here's hoping it never comes to that.
 
*sigh*, sure the bat is a "ranged weapon". So is a knife. The difference? Much larger range for the bat. Let's say you run at the guy "full spider monkey". Think he can't swat your ass (with furious anger, and extreme prejudice) loooong before you get there to do anything with the wee little knife? Bats are good at knocking the sh!t out of things that are moving fast! Think you can run faster than a 97mph fastball? Baseball players manage to hit em all day long... Imagine your head as that home run ball.
I only replied because I don't want you to get hurt one day Kris. That's about all I got.
 
Oh, I meant to add - OP, enjoy the Talwar. It's a good choice. Nice, tough knife.
 
If all Joe Felon wants is your wallet, give him your wallet. Most of the time that'll end his interest in you and you can both go about your business. Fighting over a few bills and a bunch of plastic cards that you'll cancel almost before he's out of sight is not worth it. It's not worth the risk to your person if he gets the better of you. It's not worth the risk of prison if, by some fluke, you get the better of him.

The use of lethal force (which is what a knife is when used as a weapon) in self defense is permitted in law if there is a clear and present threat to your life. It's a very small box in the US, and I don't see it being much bigger in Brazil.

Marc MacYoung has some relevant comments in this video.

[video=youtube;1tp-4WsHPpc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tp-4WsHPpc[/video]
 
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