EDC and Personal defence folding knife.

[Jens Schuetz]

*sigh*, sure the bat is a "ranged weapon". So is a knife. The difference? Much larger range for the bat. Let's say you run at the guy "full spider monkey". Think he can't swat your ass (with furious anger, and extreme prejudice) loooong before you get there to do anything with the wee little knife? Bats are good at knocking the sh!t out of things that are moving fast! Think you can run faster than a 97mph fastball? Baseball players manage to hit em all day long... Imagine your head as that home run ball.
I only replied because I don't want you to get hurt one day Kris. That's about all I got.

Yes. If we move our head the way a baseball moves keep our arms down and the guy is just waiting for our head to appear right there where the baseball is supposed to be then we are toast for sure.
I wish he would cooperate the same way and move like this into my perfect Karate punch which works so well on punching bags which hang in one spot like the ball which only flies through a small area and not even directly at him.

 

[Krissig12]

*sigh*, sure the bat is a "ranged weapon". So is a knife. The difference? Much larger range for the bat. Let's say you run at the guy "full spider monkey". Think he can't swat your ass (with furious anger, and extreme prejudice) loooong before you get there to do anything with the wee little knife? Bats are good at knocking the sh!t out of things that are moving fast! Think you can run faster than a 97mph fastball? Baseball players manage to hit em all day long... Imagine your head as that home run ball.
I only replied because I don't want you to get hurt one day Kris. That's about all I got.

I don't plan on it. I've sparred plenty and like to think I know the limits of a bat pretty well. I know it's not quite the same, but I sure as hell ain't pulling this outta nowhere

But once again, it's not like I would willingly fight a bat wielding felon with my tiny folder if there were any other options available to me. I'm just talking last resort stuff here. I thought that went without saying, but I guess not.

 

[AntDog]

^^^well said. If you can avoid things like this, it would be advisable, in my mind anyway. I'd sincerely like to meet some of you guys. Some of you sound like fearless indestructible ninjas. I think you should get together and film the next "Expendables" movie.

 

[Krissig12]

It would be a strange meeting, what with you not being able to see us.


I'm a level 6 ninja you know. With the invisibility cloak an everything

 

[Jens Schuetz]

^^^well said. If you can avoid things like this, it would be advisable, in my mind anyway. I'd sincerely like to meet some of you guys. Some of you sound like fearless indestructible ninjas. I think you should get together and film the next "Expendables" movie.

Regarding your earlier post here some baseball math. I might be off though since I'm from another country where it's not played.

Fastest ball is around 160km/h the distance it travels before it hits is 20 meters. Thus the batter has a whole 0.45 seconds to see the thing coming (within a limited target area) and hit it while waiting for it without being forced to move his body back forth or sidewards during that time.

Let's assume you are so close to him that he can't hit you with extended arm and bat. approx 6 feet. Now all you have to do is move from this 6 feet distance to within 2.5 feet where he can't hit you hard anymore. That is one big step. Can you do this in 0.45 seconds? Also the guy is focused on hitting you which will increase his reaction time and moving backwards to keep his distance is slower than you moving forward. In addition to that your knife can already reach him before you reach within 2.5 feet of him.
How often can you stab in half a second? At least two times I guess.
Ods aren't that bad given the limited effective range of a bat and other factors if you are brave enough and don't hesitate.

 

[Krissig12]

No need for the technical breakdown bro

But I agree, it takes commitment and aggression to survive an encounter like that once youve made the decision to engage.

You cant hesitate otherwise you're screwed

 

[Jens Schuetz]

No need for the technical breakdown bro

But I agree, it takes commitment and aggression to survive an encounter like that once youve made the decision to engage.

You cant hesitate otherwise you're screwed

Yep and while I might be good in theory and even in decades of training Im also honest and admit when the poop hit the fan in the past I hesitated at first and everything felt weak. Sure at the end I always squeezed out some basic techniques half wrong and got lucky but if the bad guys would have been faster they could have overwhelmed me every time when still under shock or scared.

It's good to know his own limitations. Allows for adjustment of tactics and prevents bad surprises. I might be ok with fist stick or knife in the dojo but pepperspray is vastly superior for me when legs actually start to shake and the mind lost most of its control. No need to aim accurately or to take care of critical distance like with a stick for example. Push the button, problem solved or at least distracted and open for other options.
I guess I'm more like a skunk than a "super ninja"

Still liking the training and fake fighting though.

 

[Ronnyls]

Hello guys, my knife arrived. I have EDC'd it for some time now.

To be honest I am quite disappointed. I am not saying it is a bad knife, I am saying that I expected it to be far better. Right now the only thing I can think of is, "and if I had chosen the buck 347".

Its construction is really great, absolutely no blade play, the handle fits my hands perfectly and the g10 is awesome. When it arrived it was so scary sharp that it blew my victorinox climber out of the water. Almost felt like I could let a paper sheet fall on it and it will be cut in two.

For some days I had only light uses for it, slicing the bottom of my bills of so they could fit in the bar code reading machine, cutting loose threads out of my clothes and showing it to my friends. I was in love with it, until today. A friend of mine needed help getting some stuff out of his storage room, and we had to cut some cardboard boxes so they would not make too much volume in the trash. I thought it was the moment I would put the Talwar to the test, I am still regretting it. It started like a beast, by the fifth box it started getting harder, and about the seventh out of ten boxes it was dull.

When I came home I thought it would be like my vic climber, I would hone it on smooth glass, then use some leather and it would be like new ... absolutely not. After the procedure I use to restore my vic, the talwar was still dull. I used the ceramic rods on my lansky blade medic and that too wasn't enough. I am not going to put it through the carbide blades ... So, right now I am searching for a good whetstone I can buy here in Brazil... And, hell, they are expensive here.

Another problem I have with it, is the amount of force that is needed to go past the lock back. I don't know if it will get lighter with time, but right now it is really heavy. And, a problem I am facing is that when I pull the knife out of my pocket, eventually (like 1 out of five times), it will pull the pockets inside instead of opening the blade. When that happens one of two things can happen, either my whole pocket comes out of my pants, or, the blade only goes half of the way. Either case would not be cool if I was in a self-defense situation. And, if it comes out of my pocket closed, opening a lock back is far slower than opening a liner lock.

It's not a bad knife, I like it, but because of it losing its edge so easily ... the only thing I can think of is the S30V of the buck ... maybe it would have been a better choice.

 

[Wramo]

Too bad it's not up to snuff. But for self defense, I think the Talwar is better than the Buck. Another good option would have been the Kershaw Emerson cqc-4kxl. It's a new Kershaw/Emerson collaboration that is just coming out now. You can find it for a little under $40. 8cr14mov, wave feature, framelock 3.9 inch blade. Not bad really. I picked one up and I quite like it. For the price it is hard to do better than the Kershaw Emersons for a folding knife if self defense is a priority, IMHO.

I hope Kershaw does some more of the larger Emerson designs in the future. I have big hands, and a 4 to 4.25 inch folder is just about perfect for me, and for food prep, but there aren't many budget options outside of Cold Steel, whose designs I am not the greatest fan of. I always liked some cheaper Buck and Spydercos, as they get above that 3.5 inch mark, but Kershaw making some bigger knives is sorta cool. I hope it goes well for them.

 

[Ronnyls]

The problem is how hard it is for me to buy one of these from Brazil.

Anyone else that has a knife made out of AUS A8 is facing the same problem?

 

[senoBDEC]

AUS-8 or equivalent blades (like all the current Kershaw Emerson collabs to the best of my knowledge) do not benefit from polishing much on glass, stroppingwith fine abrasives, etc. A medium 400-600 grit edge works best and lasts longest for me. Swiss Army Knives tend to have way softer blade steels so aligning the edge with glass and such is often sufficient. Whetstones are not necessary for decent sharpening.

Try the following:

Get an old simple mousepad (the kind with black foam on the back) or stiff cardboard and either glue or tape automotive sandpaper to the back in varying grits/microns.
Strop (pull blade away from edge with edge angle slightly digging into sandpaper) equal amounts both sides in decreasing repetitions (10x left right, 9x, 8x, etc).

Then hone on smooth glass, cardboard, or denim (my preference) to remove burr (wire edge). Test by carefully running fingernail from blade flat towards edge, should not catch on anything.

If you still have edge-holding problems try carrying a small bit of very stiff polished cardboard (should feel slightly plastic) and use to strop. Will regain decent edge if done frequently.

Lockback will get smoother with use. Takes a while though and a lot of opening and closing cycles. However, I think the Talwar is not the most versatile blade shape, also harder to sharpen near tip. The Lawman or Code 4 would probably be easier to handle.