EDI Gensis

Bob is right. I went to the beach yesterday with the specific purpose to dull the blade on my Genesis. Why the beach? I went searching for large manila rope that washes up on shore here from the fishing fleet. I found 3 huge pieces. I took the Genesis and cut the crap out of it. Sure it wasn't easy but I want to see if I cold dull the blade. After messing with the rope for a while I started to dismantle some driftwood I found. It still made razor slices---in fact the whole portion of the blade did. When I got home the blade was still sharp. I washed and dried it and retouched it up on the Lansky system and it's ready to go. I didn't oil the action, it didn't need it due to the bronze bushings.

Now for fun, I took the left over manila and grabbed my Cold Steel Vaquero Grande and made mince meat out of the rope....now that's what I call a fun day in frozen Alaska.

Bart....don't worry, the Genesis will hold up. Check the lastes issue of Blade.
Regards,


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~Greg~
 
Bob,Greg: Thanks for the info. Got my Gen-1 arrived Feb.-13, get most of my knives from Ruffs in Umatilla, FLA (plug..can we do that?)Great little shop with big inventory and the best prices I have found !!Anyway, you guys were right,as anxiety was building I opened the box, pulled it out, fliiick **what a sound,precision..it was sharp to my utmost satisfaction!As I went over it, I find that the fit and quality to be excellent, and can I say perfect?The feel is just right. The forward end feels a bit like a Socom,which is good. Nice touch with the cuts on the back end of the liner. G-10 is laid up finer than say, Military, will have to see how it feels wet handed. One thing I did notice upon closing with one hand,you have to be careful the thumb tab on the liner lock is close to the blade lock notch and will catch your finger. But only on fast one handed closings. Just need to get use to its ergo. This is my first experience with a bead blasted finish; how is it? Wanted the black blade, but my wife said "don't push your luck" Think shes after my Sebenza? Sorry got side tracked..The pocket clip is the best around, haven't we all wondered who would finally put a low rider on !! And with jeans the two screws kind of lock the knife in, but still allow for quik pull! This knife is very very smooth, fast as an auto, or even the Onion speed safe. Also noticed that the blade has a very slight recurve at the back,or is it my imagination? May be the shape of the belly, optical stuff...?Well, Thanks again for the insight, think this is my new daily. Hey does anybody know how to tie those little coil lashings,(lanyard) like come on the Chris Reeves knifes, took mine off to figure it out, Im loosing it, think they didn't let me out with a pass!!Ps posted the wrong email address, its Barton314@aol MANY THANKS !!
 
Bartman,
congrats on choosing a great knife. I have the black blade partial serrated version. I'm very impressed with it.
Scary sharp out of the box. Everything about it is tight and solid , reminds me of precision optical equipment.
I've found that ( for me anyway) the most comfortable method of carry is inside the waistband. On the dominate side with the clip under the belt and through the belt loop of my levis with the end of the knife riding just below the belt buckle. It is more comfortable and more concealable. With a tee- shirt tucked in but worn loose it is completly covered but instantly available.
Remember this is just my .02 worth.
You'll need to move the knife around to find the right place/method to carry for you.
It needs to be comfortable, secure, and available.
If it's uncomfortable to wear you will find yourself carrying it less and less.
If it isn't secure you will be constantly touching it ( without really knowing it) tellegraphing to others that you have a knife.
If it is in your inside coat pocket with all the Visa reciepts then it is virtually unavailbale for quick use.
YMMV

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Hey Shappa, Thanks for the info. you are right, I'm always playing with my knife sub conciously.I have never tried it in my waste band... gonna try your suggestions!This is a great knife. Like it more each day!
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yes,you are right again reminds me of a NIKKOR 500mm Medical optic, ha ha.. Well I again thank you for the info.. Ive been reading and writing in the Spyderco Military /Moran featherweight forum... Does anyone in this forum dig ATS-34 steel. I think on average it is one of the greatest steel around!! Well lets hear your thoughts?? Bart
ps. how do I become a member is it a time thing or am I graded??
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Bartman: "member" just means that you've posted more than 30 times.

My first Genesis was one of the ones with the teflon washers. It had some problems which were taken care of by the dealer. My second one, started unlocking easily, and getting lose when I gripped it tightly. It was replaced by EDI (with some nice emails from Will Fennel). The replacement is a keeper. I mentioned this because I noticed that they changed the bevel angle sometime between the second and third knives. It is now more acute and a much better cutter.
 
Well I have had my new EDI for 6 days and I love it been carrying it alot...but my clip fell off, noticed it was loose, both screws.. kept turning them with a small precision screwdriver, till I could get a torx! I ride a motorcycle and noticed my knife had slipped into my pocket. Good thing I didn't have it in my waist! Anyway I'm going to email Mr. Fennell, I'm sure he will get me a new one.I did switch sides with the clip. Think I will use some locktite! Finally got the T-6 torx and as checking other scale screws found a couple pretty loose. So check them. And if it hadn't been for this site I never would have found that t-6 tool. SEARS does have them, screwdriver style for $3.99 or a nice set for $19.99...
but the salesman told me no nothing under a T-10.. he lied I found them as I looked myself! Its a 40 mile drive to Sears! Check your screws.. Bartman
 
Bartman,
Glad to have you as a customer, and we want to help with your problem ASAP. I have been trying to email you this morning, but everything gets returned to me. If you could email me [or post if your willing] your phone #, day or nite, I'll give you a call. I want to be sure the clip screw holes aren't stripped first, because if they are, I need to get you to send in the knife. If not, I'll just send you a new clip w/screws. I look forward to talking to you.



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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
President-EDI Knives
www.ediknives.com
 
Dear Mr. Fennell, thanks for the reply so quick.. I don't know why you are having trouble with my address..Barton314@aol.com, ICQ 27974826..I have emailed you twice, giving you my phone no. If you didn't get my emails I took a screww out of scales and checked, nothing stripped..Probably just me not tightening them enough!! Again thanks for your timely responses..Barton A. Boeckler
aka Bartman
 
Mr. Fennell, me so stupid, forgot theres a security block on my address, try it now, keyed you in. heythanks!!
 
I must have been the only guy that had sort of a less than stellar first impression of the the Genesis.

I was sucked into it from all the raving from everyone else and picked up one from a dealer at a gun show (uh oh, I can hear it already). This was a legitimate dealer, however, as he always has tons of stuff and I've bought stuff from him in the past (Chris Reeve, etc).

I really wanted the plain-edge black blade but he said only the combo was available so I took that one (price was around $120 if I remember right).

Got home all excited and pulled it out. The G10 was silky soft, a big plus. Opened it up -- I knew exactly what people meant by smooth, it felt like it rode on air. However, then I saw the blade.

It appears that where the logo was laser-etched onto the blade there might have been something that rubbed on the blade, or maybe when the etching is done there is something that covers blade near the etching. Whatever it was seems to have smeared the etching a little (if that makes sense) and left abrasions on the blade itself all around the logo.

The edge was quite dull, more dull than any other factor knife I've purchased. After looking at it for a few minutes I thought maybe the knife was used to open cardboard boxes or something and that is why the blade was dulled but that still didn't explain the damage around the logo on the blade.

It wasn't a display type knife, the dealer said he had just gotten them and pulled them out of a box with several other EDI knives.

In hindsight I should have held out for a plain edge black blade at a later date, but I guess that would have meant that someone else would have gotten this one, someone who might have been a bit more upset than I.

I touched up the edge on a Sharpmaker so it is a little better but can't get myself to actually carry it due to my initial misgivings. It's my own fault for only examining the knife that was on display and not checking out the "new" one in the box.

From the sounds of everyone, I'm the exception for sure, but what a bummer for a $120 knife. :-(


--Doug
 
Hey Doug, Sorry to hear of your trouble, I'm sure that if you would talk to (MR. FENNELL)..wfennell@ediknives.com and if this is truely a defect, he WILL stand behind it. He took care of my problem right away..Even though the clip fell off, probably my fault? This is a great new company with the service other companies just don't offer or can't. So don't get discouraged. If your not carrying your Gen-1, your missing out dude! get in touch with him..he will be reading this post sooner or later,maybe he will find you?
 
Mr. Mason,
I would like to talk to you about your knife. We have had some problems with some of the early production etches. My email is wfennell@ediknives.com . If you would email me your phone # [day or nite], I'll call you on my nickel to discuss how to make you a happy customer. I look forward to resolving this to your satisfaction.

Barton,
I still would like to talk to you, if you would get me your phone #, I'll give you a call. This weekend I'm in my home office working, so fire that email to me. Thanks.



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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
President-EDI Knives
www.ediknives.com
 
Since this is the EDI Genesis forum. Would just like to say that I got a very pleasant phone call today from Mr. Will Fennell. We talked for quite awhile and discussed all sorts of knife techno! I learned much about EDI's manufacturing process,a very unique structure. All of which is so evident in the quality of the product. Will is extremely knowledgeable and answered all my questions. I would like to again thank him, for taking the time out of his busy, busy, schedule to call me personally. Out of all the knives I have or have had,(there is many)I truely feel this is a company that will grow and prosper in everyway! I will certainly buy another EDI...An outstanding production knife from an outstanding company. Hope to see Will in Atlanta!!
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****BART****
 
Received the EDI Black Combo blade yesterday afternoon. Very impressed with the knife. The blade was sharp out of box. However, there was play. A little Rem oil and tightening with torx wrench, I was able to eliminate the play, and still be able to open the knife with one hand (but a little stiff). However, the liner lock keep "inching" its way farther and farther on the base of the blade. Almost all the way to the right! The metal on the blade (where the liner meets the ATS-34 base of the blade appeared gouged). In fact, a lip has formed on the base of the blade where the titanium meets the ATS-34 steel. The titanium liner gouged the ATS-34 steel!! Within hours it became a "two-handed" knife--I needed two hands to close the blade. I have had the knife for less than eight hours and I am returning it. I ordered it from ABC-Direct, and was told it was from a "new batch" just received. I suspect a blade of soft steel--never seen titanium gouge ATS-34 steel. Nevertheless, I am very impressed with all other aspects of the knife. Same price range as the Emerson CQC7A, but the Emerson is no comparison to the "fit and finish" of the EDI.
 
Double posted.

[This message has been edited by JP (edited 21 February 1999).]
 
Jp,
I have already emailed you since reading your post. We really want to see this knife. I would like to take care of it for you directly, but if you have already returned it to ABC-Direct, thats fine too. Either way, I would like to have your phone # so I can track this situation with you to ensure that you are satisfied with the outcome.
As for the Ti liner gouging the Ats-34 blade tang, I would bet that the blade tang would have to have been milled incorrectly to start with, or damaged during assembly. Even if SOMEHOW the blade was unheatreated, it still would be hard enough that the Ti liner would not damage it as yuo described. ATS-34 is the only steel we are currently working with[we have never cut out a GENESIS blade of anything else,save the A2 proto in my pocket], so I can't see haow it could be any other steel.

Anyway, these are my problems, not yours, and we want to correct them for you as soon as possible. I look forward to talking to you. I am in my home office today working, so if you could email me your phone #, I'll call you right away.

Best Regards,

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Stay Sharp!
Will Fennell
President-EDI Knives
www.ediknives.com
 
Within hours after my post regarding a problem with the EDI knife, I received an email, and then a call from Will at EDI. We discussed the problem, and after further examination, it became apparent that the base of the blade on this particular knife may have a milling defect. The black coating on the base of the blade was intact. In fact, the "lip" on the base of the blade also had the black coating intact. Therefore, the problems I experienced have nothing whatsoever to do with the steel or heat treating of the steel. At Will's request, I am returning the knife directly to EDI, and I will receive a new knife shortly thereafter. As I indicated in my prior post, a very impressive knife, very well made (puts other knifes in the same price point to shame) and outstanding customer service.
 
Dear Will,check your email. Have another problem..guess i have one with plastic washers, developed play in the blade.
Thanks
 
Hey, folks. I posted on the tactical talk forum about my 'dilemma' in choosing two knives. No need to spam you all with the gory details here, but in short I'm looking for 2 folders, circa 4". One for everyday use and stuff, one to be kept as a dedicated defensive weapon (honed, babied, used only at need).

I'm looking back and forth between the BM AFCK and the EDI Genesis. The discussion on here has REALLY tipped me toward the EDI. The only post that gives me pause is the one towards the beginning of this thread by greg (Kodiak PA) about this being a precision knife, should use only to cut. Should I then only be considering the EDI for the 'babied' role?

BTW, by standard use, I'm NOT talking abuse. Prying with a knifeblade seems like asking for trouble, be the knife a EDI or a Pakistani special
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I'm curious to hear about the durability of the EDI's lock and mechanism as compared to the AFCK.

Thanks,

Mike

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