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I am not a Mormon, But I was in a Boy Scout troop sponsored by a Mormon church, and they didn't mess around. They take their prepping seriously. Even before it was the cool thing to do.

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Agreed.That’s a big manual![]()
It is my understanding that it was recently announced that the LDS church and BSA were going their separate ways. I am not really sure why. I know that BSA has gotten very PC the last few years and the church has stated that the Scouting programs are not really meeting the needs of the young men in the church.I am not a Mormon, But I was in a Boy Scout troop sponsored by a Mormon church, and they didn't mess around. They take their prepping seriously. Even before it was the cool thing to do.![]()
Thanks.I used to do that for a large Methodist Church and for our district churches in Florida when I lived there. Here's a link to a sample plan that pretty much follows the guidelines the Methodist Church uses for local church and district-wide disaster preparedness. It does have a list of recommended equipment somewhere in the middle and the manual is not overly long. They aren't selling anything so I think it's OK to post the link.
http://shenpres.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/SampleChurch.pdf
Based on what you've provided thus far, assuming there's a need for cutting tools, either for individuals or as a group, I'd say a stainless Mora and a multi tool. A pair of medical/safety shears probably isn't a bad idea if you have the means/room. Those items are light, compact, capable, easily obtainable, and not too expensive if you you don't go top end on the multi tool. If vehicle based, you could add in larger items...axe, saw, shovels, etc.
This is assuming you're providing guidance to those not too familiar...folks with knowledge/experience will have this base covered.
Boss
This article is good reading along those lines: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/why-...en-beret-instead-of-a-doomsday-prepper_022013
FEMA, believe it or not, has a good list of stuff you should have for emergencies: https://www.ready.gov/build-a-kit
as does the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/prepareyourhealth/PersonalNeeds.htm
As an Emergency Manager myself, I would recommend that the first thing you do it create a threat matrix. You can find models on line, but in a nutshell, it is an X/Y grid with likelihood and impact. Plot the threats on this matrix, and make your response plan accordingly.
Then, and only then, can you appropriately choose the necessary gear, as the mission drives the gear. Don't fall into the trap of gearing up because it's what you know and like.
If you'd like any specific help in this area, feel free to PM me, or ask here.
Well, I was right, things did not go as planned but, I did get to speak with someone long enough to find out how things are structured and that we badly need an updated list of church members with special needs and what emergency resources our local members may have.
Thanks for in input. You just might have given me a hint as to what I'm up against.As a person who works in a risk management related field, I think both of these posts are excellent. Developing a threat (or risk) matrix is a great idea but the concept that Risk = threat (or likelihood) x impact is a tough one for non-risk people to catch up to sometimes. I recommend starting with threats (likelihoods) at a strategic or high level and then drilling down to more tactical or low level threat by way of decomposition.
This said, risk is also deeply tied to cognitive psychology which is deeply tied to social psychology and you can different stakeholders from different social/cultural groups with wildly different unspoken perceptions of threat. I'm imagining facilitating that discussion at our church and can't imagine getting consensus on anything.
So, as a former and many time church board member I'll add that this sort of thing is difficult among professionals and my experiences on church boards is they don't tend to be bastions of clear, level-headed, rational thinking. Just sayin'.
Bringing this around to knives, as much as I like Mora Companions, I would pick the Buck Bucklite Max Large fixed blade for this application. I think it's hollow grind will be more familiar to more people, will be plenty big and tough for about any task one can reasonably attempt with a fixed blade and will be easier to maintain for most US folks.
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...It’s natural that people like us will probably go to discussing knives / multitools / guns first... but they’re a small part of a much bigger job. The conversation on helping special needs / elderly people, food & water, hygiene, shelter, mutual assistance - is probably more important.
Great question.Is the idea that (1) every family buys an individual set of emergency gear (and every family buys roughly the same stuff), or (2) that the church buys a communal pool of gear, that is kept at the church, and that can be divvied up during an emergency or otherwise provided to those who congregate at the church on an as-needs basis?
Great question.
Considering that I am starting to see a push for members to be self-sufficient, my guess is that families are expected to provide for themselves, if possible. Then the church may ask to pool resources from members willing to share in times of severe need.
I can tell you that I have received a three-page Emergency Plan summery and it states that all families are expected to assemble and maintain a 72-hour kit and home/auto first aid kits.
Does this answer your question?