Emerson vs. Strider. Help me decide.

stabman said:
With the comments here, I wonder if anyone has actually looked at stabbing wounds in humans and what implements were used to make them.
The Striders will stab.
The Emersons will stab.
ALL the ZT's will stab people just fine as well.
Take a look at some of the things which have been used to kill our fellow human beings, and you'll be cured of the "thinking" seen in this thread.
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Excellent ! He is spot on.

Look at prison shanks, look at the usual offerings in the evidence room after a stabbing. It's not $400 knives made outta the latest in space age materials. It's knives like this below.
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:)

Tostig
 
And for a suggestion, I'd recommend a regular "Lego" grip SmF or an Emerson CQC-12 (frame-lock; hard to find, but there's some out there).
They both are strong enough for whatever use might be needed, and will make you look cool.:)
 
Tostig said:
Excellent ! He is spot on.

Look at prison shanks, look at the usual offerings in the evidence room after a stabbing. It's not $400 knives made outta the latest in space age materials.
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In Rwanda, I believe the cost of the machetes used in the genocide was about 12 cents apiece.
 
back on topic.... 2 other knives that pierce well and i love are the BM nitrous stryker tanto
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and the emerson super cqc7b
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both would penetrate my second chance vest in a heartbeat but honestly you would be going for a neck armpit or groin strike anyways .. pretty sure edwood knows all the fun points like i do :)
 
stabman said:
With the comments here, I wonder if anyone has actually looked at stabbing wounds in humans and what implements were used to make them.
The Striders will stab.
The Emersons will stab.
ALL the ZT's will stab people just fine as well.
Take a look at some of the things which have been used to kill our fellow human beings, and you'll be cured of the "thinking" seen in this thread.
And Kevlar and Spectra don't stop stabs very well at all, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Yeah but the pointier the better..no?
 
yeah ED either get a emerson CQC8 or the mini CQC8 horseman the mini is in my edc rotation with my ritter grip when you wave that knife out people piss their pants :)
 
Edwood7 said:
So I’m ready to finally get a folder, I pretty much carry fixed blades every day and only have one folder knife that I sometimes carry, (it’s a 511 karambit.)
So I’m down to two companies I’m looking at, the Emerson and Strider. What are the pros and cons of each company, and what model would you recommend form each company?

I’m looking for a large folder that can be used for utility and offensive applications
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Definitely go with the Emerson unless you'd class the weight of the Strider as an "offensive" capability. (you know cause you could throw it at him)
 
stabman said:
With the comments here, I wonder if anyone has actually looked at stabbing wounds in humans and what implements were used to make them.
The Striders will stab.
The Emersons will stab.
ALL the ZT's will stab people just fine as well.
Take a look at some of the things which have been used to kill our fellow human beings, and you'll be cured of the "thinking" seen in this thread.
And Kevlar and Spectra don't stop stabs very well at all, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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As I mentioned in an earlier post, it's not about whether the knife is capable of stabbing, but whether its ideal. Most blade shapes can do the jobs of any other and yet we have plenty of options there when buying knives. The obvious reason for that variety outside of luxury is that different blade shapes prove to be more or less effective at different things. Have you ever held a Strider DB? There's a significant difference between the amount of force needed to get that through some kevlar vs something like a CQC-13. Not my pic, but here's a Strider DB's tip next to an SnG:

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its not even really up for discussions... emerson hands down.... thats what they are made for pretty much...
 
freeball said:
I have had a CQC-11 for about three years. It is the most comfortable knife I have ever had. Can't beat the ergo's. Tough, has never disappointed. I wish they made fixed blades with the same ergo's. The single bevel grind is no issue, just need to learn how to sharpen.
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+1:thumbup: fixed 11
 
I'm not sure why you would be doing CQC with any knife but I would not choose a folder for that purpose. If you are military, you should have been trained not to stab into the chest. There are better places to use a knife to put an enemy down. If I had to use a folder in this situation, I would choose Emerson's: Roadhouse, CQC 15, Super Commander are my top picks. Strider's are great knives but I would go with Emerson's in a fight. Of course, if your down to fighting with knives as a regular part of your plan, then your plan needs work.
 
I have a gun, and a sub gun and an m4 or a shoot gun depending on the job. My ass has been saved by a knife more than once, I even used a tomahawk to get a bad guy of a team mate. But I can't always carry a fixed blade, I don't always carry a sub gun or m4.I live and work in a very violent place and any advantage I can get whit what I carry is welcomed. I guess you have to live in this type of place to understand.

I started this tread whit 2 companies in mind but well, now its about 4 companies. But I think Emerson is what I I'm looking at the most now. I wish they still made the Persian, that's about exactly what I need.
 
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Thanks again for all the info. I'm glad I'm a member hear, it sure is grate having all of you helping me out on this.
 
CQC8...

Close Quarter Combat

there is a reason it's called that :) i wish mine would have arrived alrady ! Mr. Emerson if you can read this.... (shoulda been here already though but, good things come to those who wait)
 
Tostig said:
Excellent ! He is spot on.

Look at prison shanks, look at the usual offerings in the evidence room after a stabbing. It's not $400 knives made outta the latest in space age materials. It's knives like this below.
27y674k.png


:)

Tostig
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I know most stab wounds are preformed whit cheap kitchen knives and or make shift shanks, but given the option of what i would use if the need would arise as it has form time to time in my life , I would want something of quality in my hand that is made for the job. I think any one given the choice would.

Most of the guys I face out there are un educated drug addicts,(and a few ex special forces soldiers that are working for the Cartels) what makes me different from them is that I can pick my tools in an educated manner, according to the job I am going to do. They on the other hand must work whit whatever they are supplied whit, a pice of shit Norinco AK or a cheap chine’s folder from one of the local swap meets.
 
Dear Edwood

My opinion that if you need to have light armour piercing knife you should try Boker RBB. It is ugly and scaring but works well with it's chisel grind. One my friend called it knife of the Nazgul (Daemon from Lord of the ring)

As I know this knife was tested for piercing body armour and performed well in this task. The problem is that the guy who did it was about 120 kgs heavy - I believe you must be very strong

I guess the best thing for me to use against Kevlar is Glock 31 .357 :D

Personally for me the best knife for your task is 0400 ZT. Light, slim and very durable. I do not like american tanto too but you may contact Ken Onion for custom made one with all features you need.
 
kershaw just released a really cheap knife that looks like that called the asset. mind you i said it "looks" like it much lower quality bladesteel and craftsmanship imo
SpeedSafe assisted opening, a lightweight and maneuverable trailing-point blade, and a value price make the Kershaw Asset a must-have choice.

Specifications

* Blade: 3-1/4"
* Closed: 4-5/8"
* Steel: 8CR13MOV Bead Blasted Blade
* Handle: G10
* Weight: 3.8 oz.
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