ESEE RAT Arrowheads, ideas...

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SGTCap said:
I'm confussed about what a "whisker biscuit" is in this context.
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It's a kind of arrow rest for archery. The arrow is supported by a disk of nylon bristles, and the fletching (feathers) easily pass through the bristles when the arrow is shot. It's a very popular style of rest, especially amongst users of compound bows.

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I sorry if this has already been asked some were els but is there a price or date for the ESEE RAT Arrowheads? I realy like the little things that seems like you'll never need. Because it always ends up that if you had them in the feild it would be so much easyer on you. So if this was answerd please answer it again and call me a name for makeing you do it again.

P.s Jeff I know how muck you like to poke fun when it is needed so here you go do your best lol
 
interesting. id like some. probably too poor though maybe ill just try to smith some. edge retention doesnt matter anyways just resharpen after you use it.
 
I started and never finished ( before my forge was running) making some harpoon style wires. So a half broad head out of a piece of heavy fencing wire long enough to fold in the middle and fit in my BCB sized tin or fold around the inside of the tin ( into a rectangle) straighten out and lash to a pole. Easy to straighten out and re-quench with a fire and water if your worried about it being too soft out of the tin. The theory was to put three in to lash to a pole more as a stabbing pole than a throwing spear.
I have always carried a larger hook in my fishing kits to use as a gaff.
I have to have a couple practise runs before I dremel a hole in the side of my R3 for the fire drill pivot.
Carl
 
The arrowheads, or ESEE AH-1 as it's to be called was a bigtime hit at the show.

Everyone who came to the booth picked it up and played with it and then said "That;s really cool" or " That's a cool idea".

Really popular.
 
hahah i already have an excuse to get some to tell my wife :)
i willbuy a bow
then say i need these so the bow wont be pointless:D
 
I carry fishing line 80 lb and some lighter 15lb and fish hooks and I know I can always find grubs or worms I believe it would be a lot easier to catch fish than spear fish. Weighs less too.
 
I would like to get a few of them. I'm not concerned about two or three ounces for multiples of them. They don't take up any space.

Locking carabiner, slingshot band, HEST or Izula or a handy-dandy RC3 (to make some halfassed arrows out of) and I have an improvised Hawaiian Sling. Or, you have a cut down Cold Steel Blowgun, one hose clamp, slingshot band, same-same.

I took a regular Easton aluminum arrow and using a Judo Point, I put that through a very heavy cardboard shipping box at about 12 feet using a carabiner and a slingshot band. I'm absolutely positive that you could take small to medium sized game with these types of arrowheads up to about 40 feet, depending on how much accuracy you could squeeze out of it.

It's never going to be as accurate as a regular bow and arrow or even a small crossbow, but it's a way to carry something that is viable if you are skilled and everything can fit into a small fannypack or perhaps the RAT PACK pouch, one locking carabiner, slingshot band, three to six arrowheads, the light cordage that is listed as MilSpec that is in the other RAT Kit, etc.
 
i think the bigger one might be good to use in a atlatl and they are easier to make then a bow and just as effective
 
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Fishing with line means you need bait. In a survival situation serious enough that you're needing to procure food, I'd rather eat the bait myself and spear fish. Although, you could use the line for absentee fishing which has its own advantages as well.
 
seanystrangle said:
i think the bigger one might be gooed to use in a atlatl and they are easier to make then a bow and just as effective
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I think for most people, the learning curve on making an Atlatl and darts/arrows for it is shorter than for the bow and arrow but the learning curve for becoming effectively accurate with the Atlatl and arrows/darts might be longer than with the bow.
 
soccergod04 bait is easy to find just look under rocks and logs and if you would rather eat bait then a nice trout or catfish then go ahead and eat worms I'll take the fish cooked or not. Atlatl are simple and effective but don't wait to need one to figure out how to use it. Be prepared before hand. lastly I seriously doubt if very many people here (other than the few that go to So. AM. or hunting)will ever be in such a situation to need to survive on their BOB but you never know so be prepared for the worst.
 
Don I wasn't aware of what a Hawaiian sling was ( What ever did we do before Google?) But am aware of the concept. We used to make some thing similar as kids using a small length of tube ( normaly plastic coated curtain rod) the finger off a rubber kitchen glove and half a dozen rubber bands. Cut the finger off attach it to the end of the tube with the rubber bands. Drop a small stone down the tube grab it through the finger pull back aim release. We could put that combination through a corrugated cardboard box.
I'm not sure how your combination goes together.
Carl
 
Carl,

Take a suitably sized hose clamp and get it ready by placing it on the short piece of plastic or metal pipe. Take a slingshot/wristrocket band and insert one end under the hose clamp, the then other end, basically duplicating right and left sides on a set of wristrocket forks. Tighten the clamp and then use the pouch as the arrow pouch.

On a locking carabiner, you have to take some cordage and create on each end of the set of slingshot/wristrocket bands, a small loop. Fold the end over into a loop and then whip it with whipping twine or something similar to maintain that loop. When you have both sides fixed up in this manner, open the locking carabiner and slip one loop onto the right side and one onto the left.

Either one of these will shoot improvised or store-bought arrows much accurately than you might expect and certainly powerful enough to take small game with Judo Points and other blunts or perhaps medium sized game with a sharp "broadhead" type of arrowhead.
 
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