Ever heard of GSM Outdoors? They just bought Cold steel.

That's just not true. I watched the video. I listened. Among other things LCT noted that GSMO could provide financial and technical resources to CS -- resources which are required to grow and prosper, which CS could not realize on its own. He mentioned that CS will be able to achieve a level of success with GSMO's help, which it wouldn't be able to do in something like 100 years sans the help.

What's sad is that you can't see the reality of the situation. Lynn said those things in an attempt to keep people from swearing off Cold Steel products. GSM wants to soak the fan base for this brand for a profit, and they can't do that if we leave. Lynn was directed to try to stop that. So, please stop acting like you know more about business, or have some secret insight to Sold Steel's sale to GSM. I guarantee Demko and LT won't be working at CS in a year. If I'm being honest, I expect they'll be gone within six months, and why not? All the rest of Sold Steel's employees got canned.
 
my first introduction to cold steel was in the early 2000s when i was just out of highschool, i had gone to a punk show with some friends and one of the kids there was wearing one of the older cold steel push daggers on his belt, and he let me take a look at it and ever since ive been a fan
 
At least when my place let us go, the president of the company came and told us personally. And we got a severance pay.

In full disclosure, I wouldn't say the severance pay thing is confirmed to have not happened. That kid was pretty bummed and I didn't specifically ask about severance. For all I know he'd only been there a few months so maybe he didn't qualify but others did.

What I do know is he said most everyone was gone, he and the others would be soon, and that Lynn didn't address them at all.
 
Just like all of you, I don't have firsthand knowledge of the agreement between GSM and Lynn Thompson. But I do recognize that under most such transactions, the seller doesn't get much (if any) say in what happens to the assets, including personnel, after the sale. If you start making demands like, "You have to keep the entire workforce employed for another six months" or "You have to retain all of these models in the catalog," you aren't going to find a buyer. Buyouts don't work like that.

Several years ago, Cold Steel put the following on social media.

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I remember that Lynn also gave his most senior employee, Robert Vaughn, a new car for one of his employment anniversaries at Cold Steel. Lynn gave Dan Maragni a check to celebrate his twentieth year with Cold Steel.

Regardless of how the sale to GSM turned out, I don't think anyone can honestly accuse Lynn Thompson of not looking out for his employees or of being stingy.


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This is nonsense. You can totally negotiate that. In fact, in many (European) countries, there are legal provisions to make it so. It will simply take longer to find the right partner and negotiate the right deal, which might be more difficult during corona times. Giving a big gift to one or two favoured employees doesn't make it right when you leave the rest of the workforce in the cold before christmas at a time like this. (If that were indeed the case).
 
That's because he really was a hostage reading a script that was carefully written by his new owners and partners. The new owners are Gridiron Capital, a private equity firm that buys and sells companies like the rest of us buy and sell consumer knives.

There is zero chance they would let a loose canon like Lynn Thompson say what's on his mind.

Private equity firms are a big business in the United States, thanks in large part to highly favorable legislation written by the politicians they own. In 2019, private equity firms were worth $3.9 Trillion -- that's "T" as in trillion. That value was up 12 percent from 2018.

PE firms pool the money of wealthy, sophisticated investors and pension funds to purchase non-public companies, often as leveraged buyouts or venture capital inputs. They invest to gain control of their companies, usually with a 4-7 year investment period. Their goal is to create a high return on investment in the short term. Then they sell.

Gridiron is based in New Canaan, CN. It specializes in partnering with founders, entrepreneurs and management teams. It's possible that Thompson retains some equity, but it's difficult to say because Gridiron didn't buy Cold Steel, it bought GSM Outdoors, which had earlier purchased Cold Steel when it was part of Sentinel. The terms of Thompson's Sentinel deal would likely have carried forward.

Gridiron purchased GSM from Sentinel Capital Partners, which is based in New York, in November.

Sentinel is another private equity firm. It purchased GSM in June 2018, with the help of mezzanine funding from Yukon Partners, a Minneapolis-based firm. Mezzanine financing is highly lucrative, with returns running from 12-30 percent a year. One of the advantages of mezzanine funding is that in the case of bankruptcy (after pillaging by the PE firm), its debt is rated above that of the existing owners.

Sentinel, like other large PE firms, owns many, many companies in many different lines of business. It specializes in lower, mid market companies, usually through management buyouts, recapitalizations. It profits through balance sheet restructurings (creative accounting) and turnarounds. It looks for companies with earnings below $65 million.

Sentinel also looks for companies with good potential and high-quality management teams who want to gain some equity.

We don't know what Lynn Thompson's terms of sale entail, especially because he's now just a small part of a small part of a much larger organization that is utterly focused on return on investment and a quick sale a few years down the road.

The new owners are not knife people. They don't care about knives. They specialize in taking a lot more money out of an organization than they put into it. All these finance people and these revolving ownership deals pull money out of the companies they invest in.


Well stated and absolutely true based upon my 40 years experience with mergers & acquisitions. (With a private equity firm.)
 
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I have only had one dealing with Lynn Thompson. Years ago when CS first got into swords, they came out with a M1917 Navy Cutlass. I ran across a photo of a soldier getting ready to make an invasion landing somewhere in the Pacific Theater and strapped to the side of his rucksack was a M1917 cutlass, apparently issued in lieu off a machete. I sent a copy of the photo to CS, as it was in "Public Domain" so they could use the photo in their catalog, if they wanted too, and they did. A few weeks after I sent the photo I got a long package from UPS and in it was a "Thank You" note and a M1917 cutlass, which still hangs on my wall. I was surprised and happy to receive the M1917 as I did not expect to get anything for sending the photo. I also recently bought a CS Air Lite Tanto folder, partly because I liked the look of the blade and also I wanted a knife in AUS 10A. Well made and very sharp out of the box. Time will tell how the acquisition of CS will play out, but after 40 years in the cutlery business or any business, I can understand why someone might want to sell and semi-retire. John
 
...A small staff to run the day to day business in the office. Since the IP is what the buying group wanted, there isn't much reason to keep anyone beyond a "face" or two.

There's more to CS's Ventura HQ than that. They maintained a warehouse, shipping/receiving, model/prototype shop, warranty/repair resource, etc.

The fact of the matter is that how this was handled after the sale was out of Lynn's hands. We can all wish he would have done the "right" thing, but at some point you have to realize that he's not running a charity and that the business was worth X dollars to a big company to a guy Y-years old looking to get out of the rat race. Short of just taking a massive money loss and shuttering the doors and diving the profits up among the workers, there isn't much more to be expected of him.

It's not uncommon for entrepreneurs (and creditors) to place conditions on the sale of their businesses. We really don't know what LCT did, or did not do.

...Lynn Thompson, it is not. Cold Steel is ink on a page and spreadsheet of debts and credits and costs and profits.

LCT was/is a HUGE part of CS.

I think Lynn just wants to go home. He's probably lucky they didn't want to demand ownership of his likeness lest we end up with the Colonel Sanders of the knife world.

Could very well be. He's no longer in his 20's.
 
I was mildly interested in CS's wares in the 80s when I was a teen (and they advertised in "Pistolero" magazine) but generally grew out of it. I still have an SRK I got from the Australian distributer when I was in the Gun Trade here (@89 or so), they ordered them here without sheaths and paired them up with an Eagle Industries product as they were the distributer for both those brands (and about 20 others), I like that knife but would buy the Fallkniven A1 if I wanted the same thing today. Besides the SRK I have a "rescue knife" that lives in the console of my work car (gift from a mate in the US) and a "Kukri Machete" I use in the garden. I think that's it. I don't hate their blades or the company but I was less than impressed by the man it is built around (he's not bad but possibly insane ;) :D ). As most all have noted Cold Steel is basically an ideas and marketing company, they seem to do this well. What remains to be seen of the quality of their products going forward will be interesting.

Love or hate the company (I do neither) they have been a big part of the knife world for a big chunk of all of our lives. I doubt anyone will be happy with the way this turns out.
 
I suppose it depends on one's perspective? I've never considered Ford and GM to be "premium brands" for instance.
Premium brand as in the “American Big Three” auto makers. Yes, they certainly are.

Compared to Europe makers like Mercedes Benz, jaguar, Rolls-Royce, Audi, Ferrari, no, they are not premium.

Also, I was including all of Ford motor company and all of General Motors. Including their luxury lines.
 
It seems there are some very knowledgeable about business mergers and buyouts.
I know ZERO yet I do have common sense. NO I really do.
Cold Steel, Demako, and Thompson were on the cold steel forum back August of this year.
They were making excuses why A2 steel was never used, after being promoted almost two full years, 4034 would replace many steels, and 3v was tested and MAY be an option on three models.
I don't see how a purchase of this size was not known at this time. It may not have been set in writing, how was it not in the works ???
Also why wouldn't a company who buys another company with a large collector customer base, not make public statements??
Seems very odd and yet GSM even removes some inquiries about cold steel from their facebook page??
This is very odd to me, I would be promoting a business purchase, not hiding it.
I would love to hear thoughts opinions on Thompson's credibility.
Thanks
 
There's more to CS's Ventura HQ than that. They maintained a warehouse, shipping/receiving, model/prototype shop, warranty/repair resource, etc.

None of that can't be replaced closer to headquarters in TX.

It's not uncommon for entrepreneurs (and creditors) to place conditions on the sale of their businesses. We really don't know what LCT did, or did not do.

It is more common for a buying group to present a very "take it or leave it" offer that does away with all that "nonsense" as most business owners are wanting to make sure they get the maximum out of the sale. Also, as was stated, the guy answering the phone said they were all canned and CS has made no formal comment on the forum here on their own board nor has the mod logged in since Monday. I am not getting a lot of vibes that it went warm and fuzzy based on the information we're getting.

LCT was/is a HUGE part of CS.

Yes, but he is NOT Cold Steel. It is incorporated. If it weren't, every claim/lawsuit/etc would fall squarely on LT's shoulders. Im not saying he wasn't important, but legally, he is NOT Cold Steel.
 
...None of that can't be replaced closer to headquarters in TX.

That wasn't the point though -- that there's more to CS in CA than "a small staff to run the day to day business in the office." In any event, the really important stuff -- ideation, design, testing, etc. need not be in TX. I suspect CS's creative types including LCT himself would be loathe to trade Ventura, CA for Irving, TX.

There are real reasons why companies like GM, Ford, Honda, etc. keep their styling studios in SoCal and not wherever their manufacturing operations are located.

...Yes, but he is NOT Cold Steel. It is incorporated. If it weren't, every claim/lawsuit/etc would fall squarely on LT's shoulders. Im not saying he wasn't important, but legally, he is NOT Cold Steel.

Yes, yes, quite true...
 
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In case nobody noticed , these are harsh times .

Except to hard core fans , Cold Steel products are not a necessity .

I doubt this sale was made on terms LT might have preferred . Buyer's market .

Probably lucky to keep the shirt on his back , let alone negotiate a great employee severance package .

Cold Steel provided jobs for 40 years . Never heard any complaints before .
 
In case nobody noticed , these are harsh times .

Except to hard core fans , Cold Steel products are not a necessity .

I doubt this sale was made on terms LT might have preferred . Buyer's market .

Probably lucky to keep the shirt on his back , let alone negotiate a great employee severance package .

Cold Steel provided jobs for 40 years . Never heard any complaints before .

Oh I don't think that's accurate at all. Lucky to keep the shirt on his back? Seriously?

Come on. Again, I'm not disparaging Lynn for selling, but I think you can pretty confidently say he made out well and is continuing to do so.
 
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