Ever show a non-knife person your knife?

I am fairly careful about who I show my knives to, but most of my friends know to respect other people's property. Stuff still happens, I have watched a buddy of mine cut himself literally 5 seconds after I gifted him a RAT 1. I was just going to tell him not to rub his thumb over the edge, but he did. :rolleyes:

I have had a mostly positive reception from non-knife people towards my Umnumzaan. After fondling it they tend to understand why it cost so much.
 
Like any of my property, I'm very careful about who I let handle my knives. If they're respectful enough with my other property I generally find that they won't do anything particularly stupid with my knives either.
 
singularity35 said:
I once showed my then new ZT 301 to a bunch of friends. There was this one barely twenty year old guy who I saw there for the first time. When it was his turn to handle the knife, he just put it in his pocket and woulnd't give it back despite the exhortations of the group. I wound up also showing him my glock(barrel end towards him) for him to give it back.
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You pointed a gun at a kid for putting your knife in his pocket??? Wow, maybe you should not have a gun if that's all it takes for you to point a deadly weapon at a dumb kid under 20 years old.
 
I have a group of friends and clients who know that I collect knives. For the most part, they are always interested in seeing what I'm carrying on any particular day. I've even gotten a few into collecting knives themselves.

On the other hand...... One day a couple of months ago I had a new IT assistant at one of my clients ask to use my knife to open a box. I made sure that he knew how to open and handle it, and just went back to the server that I was working on. A couple minutes later, I look over at him and he's using my Spyderco Sage 2 to dig out the HUGE staples that some packing boxes are fastened with. It took all my willpower to calmly walk over and hand him my leatherman and retrieve my Spydie, when what I wanted to do was scream at him at the top of my lungs STOP!!!!!
 
Killinumsoftly said:
You pointed a gun at a kid for putting your knife in his pocket??? Wow, maybe you should not have a gun if that's all it takes for you to point a deadly weapon at a dumb kid under 20 years old.
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The man lives in the Philippines.... outside of the tourist/army base cities (Manila etc.) Its like the freaking wild west so you really cant blame him. Anywho I showed a buddy of mine a cold steel ti lite and 5 mins later I see him picking the dirt from under his nails...gross...
 
The-Stig said:
I don't lend my knives to other people. If you take the average idiot off the street and hand them a knife, they are almost guaranteed to hurt themselves, the knife, or both. I don't see what benefit there is in handing a finely crafted instrument to someone who isn't able to appreciate it. It would be like allowing just anyone in a Formula 1 car. You know they won't be able to get it off the line, and even if they do, it's going to end very badly.

Most people don't know what they are looking at when they see a knife. They won't notice any of the important features that we notice when looking at a knife. All they think of when they see it is what they have already concluded about knives. Usually it's seen as a weapon or a tool that you throw away after it gets dull. The vast majority of people aren't ready to appreciate a knife for what it is.
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Why, on knife forums, that every non-knife person is an "idiot" "sheeple" etc.? I don't encounter this type of hostility on any other hobby forums or otherwise I visit. I know how to handle a knife but that doesn't make me any superior to the others around me; it's all about common sense and respect as a few other member already pointed out.

Yes, I lend my knives to others and every time they just hand it back and say "Thanks" or once in a while "Nice knife, Thanks." NEVER any negative reaction; I'm a non-computer, non-gardening, non-xxxx 100 times over, but I don't looked down upon by my IT technician by not knowing how to set up a network, I don't get looked down in the market by not knowing how to skin a fish, I don't get looked down by chefs at restaurants by not knowing how to cook, then why look down at people who don't use or knowing how a lock disengages?
 
orixa said:
Why, on knife forums, that every non-knife person is an "idiot" "sheeple" etc.? I don't encounter this type of hostility on any other hobby forums or otherwise I visit. I know how to handle a knife but that doesn't make me any superior to the others around me; it's all about common sense and respect as a few other member already pointed out.

Yes, I lend my knives to others and every time they just hand it back and say "Thanks" or once in a while "Nice knife, Thanks." NEVER any negative reaction; I'm a non-computer, non-gardening, non-xxxx 100 times over, but I don't looked down upon by my IT technician by not knowing how to set up a network, I don't get looked down in the market by not knowing how to skin a fish, I don't get looked down by chefs at restaurants by not knowing how to cook, then why look down at people who don't use or knowing how a lock disengages?
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Because a lot of us here have experience with NKP damaging our precision tools. ;)

For example, one "friend" asked to see my then new orange millie(they watched for new knives that I had). So I showed it to him. He muscled over the liner lock trying to disengage it the wrong way. Later, I saw that the engagement had changed from the 30% to around 50%. If I had seen it right off, there would have been blood and teeth on the floor.
 
I play drums. I don't look down on anyone who can't play drums. I look down on idiots who say "hey that looks easy. Let me sit down in front of your expensive, rare drums and smash at them. Hit the sides with a wrench. Whatever crazy thing I can think of.

I think we're just venting about lack of respect more than anything.
 
r8shell said:
I play drums. I don't look down on anyone who can't play drums. I look down on idiots who say "hey that looks easy. Let me sit down in front of your expensive, rare drums and smash at them. Hit the sides with a wrench. Whatever crazy thing I can think of.

I think we're just venting about lack of respect more than anything.
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Agreed. I'd respect someone more if they ask how to disengage a lock rather than secretly try to muscle it the wrong way. I dunno how it is in other countries but here where I am, a lot of guys think they know know how something works just because they've seen it in the movies. That's why it's my experience that guys are often harder to teach how to shoot(females often admit right off that they don't know anything about it) because they insist on doing things the way they've seen in the movies.
 
Killinumsoftly said:
You pointed a gun at a kid for putting your knife in his pocket??? Wow, maybe you should not have a gun if that's all it takes for you to point a deadly weapon at a dumb kid under 20 years old.
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Yup, well.I do have a gun and I did get.my knife back. I wouldn't have wanted to wrestle the punk for my knife. What do you suggest I have done?
 
singularity35 said:
Agreed. I'd respect someone more if they ask how to disengage a lock rather than secretly try to muscle it the wrong way. I dunno how it is in other countries but here where I am, a lot of guys think they know know how something works just because they've seen it in the movies. That's why it's my experience that guys are often harder to teach how to shoot(females often admit right off that they don't know anything about it) because they insist on doing things the way they've seen in the movies.
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I agree, I think it's something to do with culture. I was brought up mostly in the UK and Hong Kong. When people come across something they are not familiar with, they just leave it alone. A good example is the frame lock, to a non-knife person, it's not obvious that a METAL bar is needed to be BENT BACK in order to preform a function. To many others, metal are solid materials and not supposed to be forced one way or another. So when people don't know how to disengage my frame locks I just show them.
 
singularity35 said:
Yup, well.I do have a gun and I did get.my knife back. I wouldn't have wanted to wrestle the punk for my knife. What do you suggest I have done?
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You did the right thing...don't listen to that BS. I would of done the same if some a-hole tried to steal my knife too.
 
If someone asks "What kind of knife is that?" (my open-carry, fixed blade of the day), I'll tell them.

If they ask to see it, I'll show it to them and put it back in it's sheath.

If they ask "What do you need a weapon like that for?", my standard answer is "It's a TOOL that I use it to cut what I need to cut. If I need to a weapon, I'll get my .45."

If someone wants to USE my knife, I'll ask them "Where's yours?" followed by "What do you need cut? I'll do it."

I haven't let anyone other than family use one of my knives since I loaned one of my smaller 3" fixed blades to a co-worker and it came back bent. He had used it to wedge apart a crate rather than go find a pry bar. And even some of my family doesn't get to use my knives. One of my sisters could cut herself with a rolling pin if she half tried.
 
WildBill3/75 said:
You did the right thing...don't listen to that BS. I would of done the same if some a-hole tried to steal my knife too.
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Yep, what Killumall and CSG don't know is that there is a term used here, it's "pa-ugat". Roughly translated it means "to out-tough". It's a way that bullies and punks rob weaker persons. Just take something away from the person and dare them to get it from them. I carry a gun to defend myself and yes, to prevent from being robbed. I prevented the punk from robbing me.
 
once in a while I get a customer who comes into my job who. He is somewhat into knives and usually has something cool on him when he shows up. He has a brand new CRKT badger, which he somehow got before they went on sale. I flick it open a few times and give it back. he hands it to my coworker, who is NOT a knife guy. my coworker opened it up and it rocketed out of his hand tip down onto concrete. the customer picked it up and was visibly distraught when he noticed the tip was destroyed... my idiot coworker just gave him an "oops" and walked away. The guy was heartbroken. I learned my lesson after letting a different coworker check out my brand new Kershaw Talon II. I had to send it back to have the blade fixed after that one took flight...
 
bladeboss said:
Now, I know they didnt do anything bad TO MY KNIFE (disregarding the stupid privates-stabbing), but when I returned home I checked my knife all over, almost as if it was abused, to make sure nothing was loosened or harmed when the two non-knife folks were fondling it. They didn't flick it open, but opened and closed it fast. Im usually slower and calmer with it.
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So you don't flick your Spyderco back locks? For fear of damage?
 
let's stick to friends and acquaintances. my rule is to show it to just one person (often i show him/her on my own volition.) why don't i like showing it to a group? a group's a lot harder to control. and from my experience, otherwise normal people can become complete idiots when they're holding a knife.

"lemme hold it, lemme hold it!"
"hey, me next!"
"i wanna see if it can pierce a silver coin!"
"lemme baton a 2-inch nail!"

que horror!
 
I don't like showing out my knives cause last time I did so in front of a group of friends, some girls screamed and one guy was like ,"OMFG, YOU CARRY A KNIFE ON YOU, DUDE ARE YOU GONNA KILL SOMEBODY?!!?!?!?!" Good thing I had a non-knife guy friend who liked knives say chill and people were like oh whatever it's just a knife I guess. lol
 
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