Ever show a non-knife person your knife?

Yeah I have, I turned a good friend of mine into a knife guy by showing him quality stuff, and eventually gifting him an Opinel. I routinely note the worthiness of a good knife when my non-knife friends want to borrow, hopefully not sounding too preachy. It's worked though.
 
Yeah I have, I turned a good friend of mine into a knife guy by showing him quality stuff, and eventually gifting him an Opinel. I routinely note the worthiness of a good knife when my non-knife friends want to borrow, hopefully not sounding too preachy. It's worked though.
 
hank_rearden said:
i don't want to make our filipino compatriots look bad but this is a bit of a trait for some of them. When I was working down south, i kept buying a new small box cutter (for sharpening lead and colored pencils) because my samplers and mappers kept filching the old one, even the spare blades. one guy asked for my balisong with the promise to pay but never did. in carlos bulosan's book "the laughter of my father" he wrote of poor farmers eating at a diner for the first time. they only knew how to use spoons. with forks, they often chipped their teeth or have the tines stuck in between. with steak knives, they often cut their lips but always ended up pocketing them.
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It is a very human trait, taking what you might need and feeling entitled to it: "everyone does it". In the West we joke about people staying at a hotel and stealing towels and ashtrays. In the old days in Eastern Europe, people weren't always far from starvation. Tea was drunk with lots of sugar. When little bricks of packaged sugar came in, it was like candy to them, they would snatch up more than they needed and pocket them.

But the idea of taking a man's personal property and refusing to return it is strong-arm robbery. Not just theft, it's bullying too, as singularity35 said: out-toughing someone.
 
Whenever you're dealing with a knife-noob (esp. In Cali), you have to be nochalant about it. I've made many people aware of EDC'ing knives (co-workers, friends, and even family). I have to say though, I don't see a lot of guys with knife clips showing where I live - I stopped dead in my tracks the other day when I noticed a guy with a Ti 940 LE clipped :D it's a rare occurrence in sheeple territory.

The last guy I got hooked was a co-worker who picked up a BM. I show people who I think can handle seeing a knife - I know, it sounds silly to say the least, but it's true - some people can freak out easily lol.
 
My family, friends, and co-workers are all either knife people, or respectful and intelligent enough to not to anything too absurdly stupid. And if they do something stupid, I snatch the knife right back and instruct them. My instructions tend to be VERY forceful, and the people I've had issues with (for the record, only ever my brothers) got the message immediately. Most non-knife people are in fear of my edges too since they've usually either seen me cut something effortlessly, or I demo the knife shaving my arm hair before handing it to them.

Speaking of edges, we still make fun of one guy. I was sharpening some knives at my college apartment when a couple friends came over unexpectedly. One of them is an ex-Marine who, at this point, was beginning to feel the intoxicating effects of alcohol. He grabs one of my knives, opens it, and runs his hand on the edge. Of course, having just come off my 6000 grit Japanese wet stone, the knife easily sliced into his hand. He got all bug eyed and started saying "DAMN DUDE! THAT THING IS SHARP! I just ran it along my hand quick and slow! Just quick and slow!"

To this day, the hilarious drunk logic of "Quick and slow" is associated with this person, and the words are recited almost as a chant whenever his name is said. My roommates all respected my knives and knew exactly how sharp I kept them, so they obviously thought it was hilarious that someone would doubt my sharpening skills!
 
Esav Benyamin said:
It is a very human trait, taking what you might need and feeling entitled to it: "everyone does it". In the West we joke about people staying at a hotel and stealing towels and ashtrays. In the old days in Eastern Europe, people weren't always far from starvation. Tea was drunk with lots of sugar. When little bricks of packaged sugar came in, it was like candy to them, they would snatch up more than they needed and pocket them.

But the idea of taking a man's personal property and refusing to return it is strong-arm robbery. Not just theft, it's bullying too, as singularity35 said: out-toughing someone.
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if it's a weapon, it becomes a man thing. i have enough instincts to feel that mishandling another man's weapon is a serious transgression. even handling it without permission is inexcusable. you risk physical harm.
 
redsquid2 said:
I would never point a firearm at someone unless I was willing to kill them. That is what firearms were invented to do: to kill. a knife is not worth killing for.
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I respectfully point out that the analisis of wether he was right or wrong on pointing his gun to get his knofe back is off topic. The story itself was perfectly on topic, the evaluation of it, not.

For the record, guns were made to kill, yes. But also to wound, and, more importantly, as deterrents. Otherwise, nucklear warheads would be just plain silly, won't they? The knife wasn't the point, the point was the social status of the poster, being bullied. Aserting your status as alfa male can be worth intimidating with a gun, wound, or kill, if your survival is in danger,
The knife it's not important. To counter bully the bully it's important.

And yes, I said this was off topic and even so contributed my point of view. You corrupted me!
 
hank_rearden said:
if it's a weapon, it becomes a man thing. i have enough instincts to feel that mishandling another man's weapon is a serious transgression. even handling it without permission is inexcusable. you risk physical harm.
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Forgive me, but Freud would have had a field day with this paragraph
 
These threads come up about every other month. Someone is horrified that the folks around them don't understand knives, don't like knives, hate knives, or say something smarmy about knives being weapons.

Then there is the snort of derision about being surrounded by notorious "sheeple" and how they are so afraid of any small knife, much less anything manly.

First, I am glad I don't run around with or into the crowd that many seem to associate with. A lot of folks here sure seem to keep some questionable company. No one would make stabbing motions at me with my knife. No one would put my knife in their pocket and leave me with pointing my gun at them to get it back. Maybe my blue collar life is just different... but then I have so many white collar friends... I don't get the choice of company.

Second, NO ONE knows I have a knife with me unless I want them to. If I am in the wrong environment (my determination only) I won't show my knife even is someone really needs it. I will let them look as long as they need to (hours?) to find something that cuts if I think I will hear any baloney or raise an eyebrow. I don't care how hard they have to work to find a cutting instrument. I am not there to supply cutting tools to anyone.

I carry two knives. One is a large folder about the size of a Buck 110, and it stays in my pocket unless I am on the job site. The other is a small cattleman ( 2 1/4" main blade ) that I will use in certain conditions. No flourish, no examination by others, no showing off how sharp it is, how smooth the action is, and most of the time I usually don't let them cut anything with it. I use it, then put it back in my pocket. That knife is so small it has never raised an eyebrow.

Seen these threads for years here, and just don't get it.

Robert
 
thomasvsgodzilla said:
Sometimes a man's weapon is just a ... cigar? :D
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Mmmm, cigars! And guns. In the storage compartment on my motorcycle.

And yes, depending on the brand, I do consider some cigars weapons. They attack the nostrils. ;-)

 
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midnight flyer said:
These threads come up about every other month. Someone is horrified that the folks around them don't understand knives, don't like knives, hate knives, or say something smarmy about knives being weapons.

Then there is the snort of derision about being surrounded by notorious "sheeple" and how they are so afraid of any small knife, much less anything manly.

First, I am glad I don't run around with or into the crowd that many seem to associate with. A lot of folks here sure seem to keep some questionable company. No one would make stabbing motions at me with my knife. No one would put my knife in their pocket and leave me with pointing my gun at them to get it back. Maybe my blue collar life is just different... but then I have so many white collar friends... I don't get the choice of company.

Second, NO ONE knows I have a knife with me unless I want them to. If I am in the wrong environment (my determination only) I won't show my knife even is someone really needs it. I will let them look as long as they need to (hours?) to find something that cuts if I think I will hear any baloney or raise an eyebrow. I don't care how hard they have to work to find a cutting instrument. I am not there to supply cutting tools to anyone.

I carry two knives. One is a large folder about the size of a Buck 110, and it stays in my pocket unless I am on the job site. The other is a small cattleman ( 2 1/4" main blade ) that I will use in certain conditions. No flourish, no examination by others, no showing off how sharp it is, how smooth the action is, and most of the time I usually don't let them cut anything with it. I use it, then put it back in my pocket. That knife is so small it has never raised an eyebrow.

Seen these threads for years here, and just don't get it.

Robert
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Whats not to get?

Most posts in this thread are pretty much straightforward and in something resembling English as well:D

Yes, we have seen this debate before and will again - just as long as non-knife persons/sheeple ask to borrow a knife and as long as knife owners are willing to lend them a knife (or be eager to show it off - the knife that is).

Its a cycle (just like those packs of dogs ride.....with IEDs).
 
What's not to get?

We are different ages, different social groups, different environments, different parts of the country, different parts of the world. Of course our experiences differ, and the way we react to them differs also. That's a good part of the reason we enjoy these threads, to expand our understanding of others.
 
midnight flyer said:
These threads come up about every other month. Someone is horrified that the folks around them don't understand knives, don't like knives, hate knives, or say something smarmy about knives being weapons.

Then there is the snort of derision about being surrounded by notorious "sheeple" and how they are so afraid of any small knife, much less anything manly…

First, I am glad I don't run around with or into the crowd that many seem to associate with…
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You must not use your knives in public a lot :rolleyes: I pull mine out in a starbucks to cut a scone in half and the cashier is dialing 911 lol

(ok, I exaggerated a little) ;)

I have had many experiences with the “notorious Sheeple” lol - they do exist, it’s just an easier way of saying: someone who’s afraid of their own shadow, and can’t think for themselves ;)
 
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I don't understand anyone getting flabbergasted, irritated or mad because some people live in different social environments and have different social experiences than they may have. What may seem obscene to happen in your social life, through your action or others, may be quite common and appropriate for others even in regards to their reaction or the reactions of those around them.
 
singularity35 said:
Yup, well.I do have a gun and I did get.my knife back. I wouldn't have wanted to wrestle the punk for my knife. What do you suggest I have done?
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Hey whatever u wana do buddy, i can't imagine the guy was actually going to try to keep it forever. He was probably messing around like a dumbass 19 year old kid does. Im sure you could have solved it without pointing a gun at him, imagine if you had a accidental discharge and killed some poor stupid kid for a pocket knife. I don't care if it's a 10,000$ knife it's not worth some moron kid who's messing around life. I understand your in a bad area but this is why we aren't able to get ammo and stuff and we have to fight to keep fun rights because people get a gun and allnofna sudden they use it to solve every problem or just act foolish with it. I don't point my gun at anything unless I intend to kill it and it's going to be for a dam good reason like my life or loved ones life is in serious danger. But hey I guess that's just crazy ole responsible me
 
singularity35 said:
Yep, what Killumall and CSG don't know is that there is a term used here, it's "pa-ugat". Roughly translated it means "to out-tough". It's a way that bullies and punks rob weaker persons. Just take something away from the person and dare them to get it from them. I carry a gun to defend myself and yes, to prevent from being robbed. I prevented the punk from robbing me.
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You said you were in a group of friends, obviously a young kid who puts it in his pocket and just stands there is robbing you lol, here in civilized society we have a saying to its called messing around and kids do it often.
I'm actually starting to believe it probably didn't happen and it's just another Rambo story we so often see online.:rolleyes:
 
Killinumsoftly said:
I understand your in a bad area but this is why we aren't able to get ammo and stuff and we have to fight to keep fun rights because people get a gun and allnofna sudden they use it to solve every problem or just act foolish with it.
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You are still not paying attention. :)
singularity35 doesn't live in the US.
His behavior has no effect on our laws.

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