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Cute girl for non-knife person but if she doesen`t know how to use knife....
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Ever show a non-knife person your knife?
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Cute girl for non-knife person but if she doesen`t know how to use knife....
Well that just gives you a reason to talk to her doesn't it? You have to teach her how to use a knife and you know what they say, initiating the conversation is half the battle.
For me I only hand my knife to people I know who won't do something stupid and if I don't think they know how to use it they get a quick crash course lesson. Or if I know they have common sense and can handle it safely I let them use it under my supervision and I watch as they try to figure out how to use a liner lock or frame lock, it is usually a 1-2min ordeal as they tell me something along the lines of "wait don't tell me, I want to figure this out" as they know I stop them if they do anything remotely dangerous. Quite a few of the people I know who are not "knife people" can handle a knife safely, more so than a lot of the fellow knife enthusiasts I've encountered but it's just that they never encountered anything beyond slipjoints and lock backs so frame/liner locks baffle at first.
If I don't know you or you don't fall into the list of people I trust, your bringing me the item that needs to be cut or taking me to it. No exceptions, I've seen too many people test blades by running their finger along it. Do that after I am done sharpening one of my knives and you be looking at some stitches if you use anything closely resembling pressure while running your finger along the blade.
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Agreed,
Apologies to singularity35, I know you are washing your hands on this, and rightfully so. But I do feel it is important to advise some, that there are certain places on this planet, where if you are seen to be weak or vulnerable, you are toast. Backing down on certain disputes could certainly seal ones fate.
Cheers
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Teach her to use a knife. I taught a cute coworker how to use a knife. I just wish she didn't have a boyfriend...
A guy asked to borrow a knife a knife to do something while he was on the phone, gave him a Buck 112 and less than a minute later he'd managed to slice his thumb and drop the knife into dirt. He'd tried to open the knife, didn't get the blade open fully, and proceded to try pushing it fully open with his thumb on the edge.
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LOL s-h-e-e-p-l-e
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Yeesh. Gotta say, my father's not a knife person and he keeps a super cheap folding knife handy that he abuses to the point that there are all kinds of dings and rolls in the edge, but I think he'd know better than to try and open one of my knives like that.
Several weeks back my sister was visiting and I gave her an old Huntsman I wasn't using, then used mine to show her the different tools on it. I used it at one point to cut open a bag of potting soil and a while later after I'd seen she'd used the one I gave her, I asked her how it cut. She said something along the lines of it being sharp, but not as sharp as mine, just based on seeing it open that bag of soil. I *know* she'd never try to push a knife open with her fingers or thumbs. BTW, I gave her new-used Huntsman a bit of a touch-up after that.
I hope I never witness anyone testing an edge by running their finger down the length of the blade or try to push a blade open by putting a digit on the edge.
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Here Here!
It isn't pretty, nor is it right, but then they deserve it for their own stupidity.
I was showing knives to a couple of customers, and the one guy said nice knife but it isn't sharp. I explained that they are very, very sharp. Then he says its not, and runs his finger from the tip down the blade cutting himself to the bone in the process. He was speechless and was bleeding like a pig with its throat cut squirting all over my shop. I put electrical tape on his finger to hold the flesh together and had to get stitched up at the ER. No he didn't buy the knife, but his buddy did buy one for himself, and had his other knives sharpened.
I was showing knives to a couple of customers, and the one guy said nice knife but it isn't sharp. I explained that they are very, very sharp. Then he says its not, and runs his finger from the tip down the blade cutting himself to the bone in the process. He was speechless and was bleeding like a pig with its throat cut squirting all over my shop. I put electrical tape on his finger to hold the flesh together and had to get stitched up at the ER. No he didn't buy the knife, but his buddy did buy one for himself, and had his other knives sharpened.
^Bufford: Again! What is WRONG with these people!? It's a KNIFE, of course it's going to be sharp! What do they use to cut stuff in the kitchen, a spoon? I know I'm beating a dead horse but.... I just DON'T understand this. I can't wrap my head around the process, and it just bugs the hell outta me. I'm just baffled by this occurrence every time it crops up. It's like opening a cereal box and finding a live snake, you just HAVE to know what the hell led to it.
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People on here seem really uptight and are failing to educate.
If someone wants to see my knife, that means someone told them that I carry something or they are observant and saw the pocket clip. First thing I do is make sure we aren't in some highly visible area. I don't need to start trouble because one person wanted to see ( I learned that lesson a long time ago). Once I see that we have a little privacy, next I pull the knife out and begin educating. I tell them about the blade, if it's sharp (and how sharp), where it was made, and why it is something interesting, and I educate them as to how it works (I carry autos fairly often). point out how I'm holding it, how to be safe etc, Then, I open the knife. This usually gets a "wow" of some sort. I then close the knife (and educate on how that happens). I then hand the knife to the person that wanted to see it and gently guide them through the process.
They now know several things they didn't know before.
1. how it works
2. what it is made of
3. they've physically functioned the knife
4. they probably want one (at this point they ALWAYS ask "how much?")
5. they then will close the knife and perhaps open it a few more times, close it as I showed them - and hand it back to me.
6. They know now who makes it and it is probably better than whatever they know about knives already (so you won't hear - "gerber is great" you'll instead hear "I have a gerber that I like (followed often by) ...how good are those?"
It seems that people on here aren't educating enough and then getting mad when someone doesn't know what they know. If someone were to say "let me see your gun" - would you just hand it to them without educating them? (or, would you hand it to them at all??).
I've NEVER had a bad experience giving someone a knife because I make sure I guard my property and educate someone properly. If you are out camping or whatever and your camping partner says "hey, gimme your knife" you should do two things - 1) trust that they are your camping partner and have some basic knowledge 2) verify their use with a quick "what for?" thrown in their direction.
I've been at a range with a friend and heard "hey, let me have your knife" - I asked "what for?" response was "I need to pry this thing loose". My response - oh, hold on I'll get you a shit one that you can beat on a little.
If you educate people about things - you'll find everything goes much smoother. If you don't educate people and assume they know what you know - you'll always be disappointed in their reactions as well as how they handle your property.
If someone wants to see my knife, that means someone told them that I carry something or they are observant and saw the pocket clip. First thing I do is make sure we aren't in some highly visible area. I don't need to start trouble because one person wanted to see ( I learned that lesson a long time ago). Once I see that we have a little privacy, next I pull the knife out and begin educating. I tell them about the blade, if it's sharp (and how sharp), where it was made, and why it is something interesting, and I educate them as to how it works (I carry autos fairly often). point out how I'm holding it, how to be safe etc, Then, I open the knife. This usually gets a "wow" of some sort. I then close the knife (and educate on how that happens). I then hand the knife to the person that wanted to see it and gently guide them through the process.
They now know several things they didn't know before.
1. how it works
2. what it is made of
3. they've physically functioned the knife
4. they probably want one (at this point they ALWAYS ask "how much?")
5. they then will close the knife and perhaps open it a few more times, close it as I showed them - and hand it back to me.
6. They know now who makes it and it is probably better than whatever they know about knives already (so you won't hear - "gerber is great" you'll instead hear "I have a gerber that I like (followed often by) ...how good are those?"
It seems that people on here aren't educating enough and then getting mad when someone doesn't know what they know. If someone were to say "let me see your gun" - would you just hand it to them without educating them? (or, would you hand it to them at all??).
I've NEVER had a bad experience giving someone a knife because I make sure I guard my property and educate someone properly. If you are out camping or whatever and your camping partner says "hey, gimme your knife" you should do two things - 1) trust that they are your camping partner and have some basic knowledge 2) verify their use with a quick "what for?" thrown in their direction.
I've been at a range with a friend and heard "hey, let me have your knife" - I asked "what for?" response was "I need to pry this thing loose". My response - oh, hold on I'll get you a shit one that you can beat on a little.
If you educate people about things - you'll find everything goes much smoother. If you don't educate people and assume they know what you know - you'll always be disappointed in their reactions as well as how they handle your property.
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Oh one more thing, I guess it was the punk who learned his lesson about bullying a weak looking old man.
That group was NOT a group of strangers. Most of the people there I ran with in my younger days, some were my classmates since high school. We had raised hell together but I hadn't been with them for a while. One of the people there was the owner of the motorcycle repair shop that is their hangout place(where I used to hang too) when I was into bikes. In a place like this, you can see that there will be regulars and some people who come and go.
I really should bow out now since I don't feel I owe anybody any explanation or justification of my actions. This is really starting to be funny. I wasn't asking if my response was correct since I got the desired result. I was merely relating why I no longer showed or handed my knife/knives to other people.
A stranger over the internet, judging me and my actions without even knowing the context of the incident. Hehehe.
I gotta give props for using an appropriate force multiplier deterrent here.
It's just not worth drawing another blade and going toe-to-toe with a younger, dumber, and potentially stronger eejit over material possessions. Sometimes, talking 'em down is all it takes. Very Gran Torino-era Clint Eastwood, but hey, if that's what works, who's to stop ya?
I'm glad you didn't have to issue him a Darwin award.
Back to the original topic, and extending with a question of my own, what exactly are these people encountering, to create a perspective of knives as "not sharp"? Surely when they get new knives they'd be a little sharp. Perhaps the presence of grind lines is associated with sharpness, and then hand-sharpened blades with clear, polished bevels look a little like rolled and blunt edges.
Sheeple, in my head, are not people who are simply ignorant, but in addition are in denial, or try to bluff their way past the knowledgeable. The loud, brash, and assuming are well within this category. It isn't just knives, either.
Most people who get new knives get the kind of kitchen knives that you can blunt by actually pressing your thumb against the edge. When it comes to other knives, they usually use them until they reach the point where it doesn't cut anymore, then feel up the edge.
I've noticed that in all warehouses that sport some kind of knife, there are rarely ever any fingerprints on the blades of the knives. It's a good thing, no etching from the acid on your fingers etc. but it also means that no-one bothers to actually check the edges of the knives that they buy. "It's new, it's a knife, it should be sharp, i don't have to feel it up to see if it really is."
This is the response that was needed in this thread.
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Thanks! To me, this seems like common sense. It's how you teach people things so they respect but don't fear. Fear leads to over-compensation or false concepts. Knowledge leads to simply saying "I know about that, and it's not for me", OR "Hey, that's interesting, I'm going to find out more".
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Well said, sir. I'm usually pretty particular with who I hand my knives to, but this is great advice.
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I was at Starbucks with my 4 year old daughter, when she saw my knife on my belt. She lifted my shirt up and began yelling "LOOK daddy has his knife. Hey look!" Everyone in line did look...