Evil semi-fullyautomatic knife of terror

[craytab]

Not necessarily. I'm just saying that you never know. And as irrational as it may be (or seem to be) to us, if someone has legitimate PTSD around something, it's not totally irrational, is it?

Jim

Oh, absolutely you never know what is going on in the mind of someone you don't know. That said, we have laws in society and businesses have rules. So long as you follow them you can do what you want. I think what the op is describing is a complete bull snot story, but if it didn't violate the law or the rules of the private business, the lady can pound sand.

 

[James Y]

I don't know if the OP's story is true or not, but I totally agree.

Jim

 

[jackknife]

Just to play devil's advocate, it is highly likely that a percentage of the people with an irrational fear of knives might have an actual reason for it. Who knows if someone was traumatized (or witnessed something traumatic happening to someone else) in some way in their past by someone wielding a knife. You never know. Keep in mind I know the BIG difference between this type and the more common examples of people who simply think that "Nobody ever needs to carry a knife around."

I don't know

I remember a few years back mentioning that SOME people might have a PTSD type of reaction to someone with a knife (outside of the kitchen) and why, and another poster commented (I'm paraphrasing): "Well, they better get over it and accept my right use my knives however I want, anywhere I want." Yep, that'll cure them of their trauma.

Jim

Jim makes a very very good point.

You people on this forum have no idea of what some people have went through in their life. That little itty bitty knife can be a button pushed to a bad memory. I grew up in Washington D.C. In my teen years I was running with people I should not have been running with. Some them were convicted felons, and the D.C. cops would use anything to nail them short of spitting on the sidewalk. But...they were not stupid or suicidal enough to walk the streets of their not so good neighborhood unarmed. So in the city, a culture grew up around using small bladed weapons that could be concealed in the palm of a hand, to inflict very serious injuries in a stealth counter attack, yet were small enough to not give the cops that shook them down regularly reason for a bust. Cheap box cutters were popular and that's what, a half inch of razor. blade when exposed? Small pen knives with the blade sharpened like a razor in a side pocket were common. An inch and three quarter blade can open a face or throat very quickly.

Yet the small pen knife doesn't give the cops anything to bust them on, or the box cutter, especially when they work in a warehouse or store as a shelf stock person. A small cheap knife can be tossed down a sewer with no regrets that you're tossing a nice/expensive knife. If someone who grew up on a poor inner city environment see's a small knife out for no good reason, they can feel a bit nervous. Maybe they had a family member who got sliced bad in a mugging. It happens. Some of the knife nuts on this forum can be a bit immature and a little weird. I've seen so many of these posts that it gets tiresome. If you don't want unwanted attention, keep your knife in your pocket where it belongs. Taking out a knife, even a itty bitty one, in a hearing exam setting is not only obnoxious and un-needed if it actually happened, but weird.

Check your ego at the door. If I were in a small confined space like a hearing exam room and some stranger takes out a knife, I'm taking out my gun. You have no idea what damage even a little Victorinox classic can do to the human body with a few swipes in a few seconds. Our daughter is a parole agent and deals with adult felons. This is still a regular thing, the convicted felon with a small pocket knife that doesn't violate any laws, yet will still deliver a very serious injury or even death if a juggler or carotid is cut. Contrary to the belief of the knife nut keyboard commando, an inch of blade is all you need to kill someone. How big is a scalpel blade a surgeon opens up a body with?

All coins have two sides.

 

[needler420]

And exactly what rights would those be?

The right to keep cleaning my pocket knife with a tissue. Sure a business can deny me service for that and Like I said I would complain to corporate and write in grievance letters over and over.

 

[danbot]

OK, now this is getting ridiculous. All I said was with SOME people, you never know. I've personally known someone who has severe PTSD around something (not knife-related), and knowing that, I would not talk about, do, or show her something that could trigger it.

I DID mention that there is a big difference between someone with a PTSD-type reaction and the FAR more common types that don't think anyone should ever carry a knife around because it makes them feel uncomfortable.

Jim

People with PTSD actually do need to get over it. It's a crap way to live life. They need counseling and perhaps medication, but they also need to realize that the world is not going to change to accommodate their issues. Is the person who takes out a small pocket knife to slice their apple the unreasonable one? Or is it the person who runs screaming and flailing their arms hysterically at the sight of it?

 

[DocJD]

There are no two ways about it, pulling out a knife to clean for no reason, regardless of how big or small it is, can very easily be viewed as brandishing (which is illegal in most states) and potentially threatening. While the reaction of the lady to the knife was obviously a little extreme, a knife is a weapon alongside being a tool. Pulling a knife out for no reason is not socially acceptable behavior, and treating it as socially unacceptable behavior is not something that should be shamed. The name calling and multiple attempts to try to politically charge this topic should be shamed, and I'm a bit surprised a mod hasn't stepped in and shut this down already.

The lady's reaction was over the top, but knives like many other things we all have should not just be whipped out for no reason. Right to carry is not right to brandish. This could have been ended with a simple apology for obviously disconcerting behavior, but it was instead taken to an internet forum... to try and get props on disconcerting behavior? Don't pull out a knife for no reason, that kind of stuff makes us all look bad. Clean your knife at home, man.

I basically agree , but it's a " when in Rome " kind of conditional , cultural value thing for me . Sometimes cultures clash , often just thru misunderstanding .

There are still many places , and groups where the OP's actions would have, at worst, earned him some good natured kidding over the size of his ...uh, knife .

I recently noticed a photo, in a thread here , of a knife being used to castrate a calf . A common thing in that environment, but probably a shocking thing to many not accustomed to such .

I try to not offend or alarm anyone , but sometimes it's hard to know what's OK anymore .

 

[Øye]

If the fat lady gets so triggered by such a trivial thing, then maybe she should bring her emotional support pit bulls to work.

 

[DocJD]

If the fat lady gets so triggered by such a trivial thing, then maybe she should bring her emotional support pit bulls to work.

Except : there's way more people with pit bull phobias than tiny knife terror vapors .

 

[Lapedog]

People with PTSD actually do need to get over it. It's a crap way to live life. They need counseling and perhaps medication, but they also need to realize that the world is not going to change to accommodate their issues. Is the person who takes out a small pocket knife to slice their apple the unreasonable one? Or is it the person who runs screaming and flailing their arms hysterically at the sight of it?

Actually if you talk to psychologists the only way to healthily get over a phobia is gradual exposure to what causes it.

This tiny knife was step 1 of knife exposure. Op should send the lady a bill for his services in helping her get over her fears.

Once she gets over her fears she can buy a mall ninja knife for herself and thus become the baddest mofo who fears no one in that instant the knife hits her pocket.

 

[rogatsby]

I doubt it. I'm 6' 270 lbs and this girl made me look like a munchkin from wizard of oz.

If you're 6 foot and weigh 270, I think you really need to lose some weight. Just as much as the woman you describe in your story. Unless you are a professional bodybuilder, in which case you need to get off the steroids and also lose a ton of weight. As for your story (which I have some doubts about), I am also a knife enthusiast. That's why I'm here. But I can understand why some people would become nervous or afraid if some random person in a public setting pulled out a knife for no real reason and started cleaning it with a "tissue." By the way, that knife doesn't need a tissue. It needs to be thrown in a recycling bin or dumpster.

 

[DocJD]

If you're 6 foot and weigh 270, I think you really need to lose some weight. Just as much as the woman you describe in your story. Unless you are a professional bodybuilder, in which case you need to get off the steroids and also lose a ton of weight. As for your story (which I have some doubts about), I am also a knife enthusiast. That's why I'm here. But I can understand why some people would become nervous or afraid if some random person in a public setting pulled out a knife for no real reason and started cleaning it with a "tissue." By the way, that knife doesn't need a tissue. It needs to be thrown in a recycling bin or dumpster.

Unnecessarily insulting and personal to both OP and his knife ! Please find a more civil way to make your point .

 

[Lapedog]

If you're 6 foot and weigh 270, I think you really need to lose some weight. Just as much as the woman you describe in your story. Unless you are a professional bodybuilder, in which case you need to get off the steroids and also lose a ton of weight. As for your story (which I have some doubts about), I am also a knife enthusiast. That's why I'm here. But I can understand why some people would become nervous or afraid if some random person in a public setting pulled out a knife for no real reason and started cleaning it with a "tissue." By the way, that knife doesn't need a tissue. It needs to be thrown in a recycling bin or dumpster.

Why? There are lots of people who collect well patinaed knives that look very far from pristine condition.

You know I was actually going to comment that the OP was in the wrong until I saw how small the knife was. At that size it is barely a knife, more just a novelty or trinket that so happens to be shaped like a functional knife. It is so small it could literally be used as an earing or necklace pendant. The knife is literally a curiosity more than a weapon.

 

[rogatsby]

Unnecessarily insulting and personal to both OP and his knife ! Please find a more civil way to make your point .

The only reason I mentioned the weight issue was because he was using it as a point to bolster his criticism of the woman in his story. It was completely irrelevant, so I mentioned his own stated weight to show how irrelevant it is. As for the knife itself, that doesn't look like "patina" to me. It looks like rust and degradation.

 

[rogatsby]

Why? There are lots of people who collect well patinaed knives that look very far from pristine condition.

You know I was actually going to comment that the OP was in the wrong until I saw how small the knife was. At that size it is barely a knife, more just a novelty or trinket that so happens to be shaped like a functional knife. It is so small it could literally be used as an earing or necklace pendant. The knife is literally a curiosity more than a weapon.

I actually agree with you on the threat assessment of that knife. That's why I said I doubted the veracity of this story.

 

[DocJD]

The only reason I mentioned the weight issue was because he was using it as a point to bolster his criticism of the woman in his story. It was completely irrelevant, so I mentioned his own stated weight to show how irrelevant it is.

That's certainly a valid issue . A person's size ,gender , weight , strength etc often has little bearing on their level of fear .

 

[DocJD]

I actually agree with you on the threat assessment of that knife. That's why I said I doubted the veracity of this story.

I find it highly implausible that I can no longer board a commercial flight with nail clippers etc , unless they changed that ?

 

[rogatsby]

I find it highly implausible that I can no longer board a commercial flight with nail clippers etc , unless they changed that ?

I sympathize with you bro, but I can understand the severe restrictions for air travel. I hate it, but for planes, it's better to be safe than sorry. I am willing to suffer that inconvenience when it comes to air travel. Besides, you can just put your stuff in checked baggage without any trouble most of the time. I have done so for some fishing trips without any problems.

 

[DB_Cruiser]

A train for sharpening? Have you got the hand eye coordination of a brain surgeon? I used to ride a train daily as well, it was extremely bumpy and I would never think of doing precision work on one.

Well, to be fair, it was just a thought that never went anywhere. I reckon if I had tried, the motion of the train would have quickly made me realize the other stupidity of trying to sharpen a knife on a train, thus also ending in tears. My mind never really went past the idea of how the passengers around me would react.

 

[DocJD]

Well, to be fair, it was just a thought that never went anywhere. I reckon if I had tried, the motion of the train would have quickly made me realize the other stupidity of trying to sharpen a knife on a train, thus also ending in tears. My mind never really went past the idea of how the passengers around me would react.

Headline : Local man in custody after allegedly attempting Hara-kiri with pocket knife on train before being restrained . Claims he was " only trying to sharpen my knife" .

 

[b00n]

The whole argument of "I never considered perception or the people around me" shows bad situational awareness. Don't let me catch any of you asking for a self defense knife