Fallkniven F1, ESEE RC-3, ESEE Izula, Griptilian

So let me ask this then:

Does anyone actually have a video of batoning wood with a Griptilian? Or some other last ditch survival task? I mean everyone talks about fixed blades are stronger than folders...and physics says that is definitely true. But what does it take to break an axis lock? Even an Izula stored in a backpack, is considered a concealed weapon. It has to be displayed, which sucks.

-Freq
 
freq18hz said:
So let me ask this then:

Does anyone actually have a video of batoning wood with a Griptilian? Or some other last ditch survival task? I mean everyone talks about fixed blades are stronger than folders...and physics says that is definitely true. But what does it take to break an axis lock? Even an Izula stored in a backpack, is considered a concealed weapon. It has to be displayed, which sucks.

-Freq
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open and close the knife and light use, that is what happened to mine.
 
freq18hz said:
Does anyone actually have a video of batoning wood with a Griptilian? Or some other last ditch survival task?-Freq
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Not a Griptillian. Not a video either, as I am technically challenged. A short thread I made in our W&SS forum with pics of "survival" stuff I did with a Victorinox Hiker.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=722205

A fixed isn't required to survive. Any knife can do. All it takes is practice and a little knowledge.Without that it won't matter what knife you carry.
 
freq18hz said:
Alright folks. If you had to choose 1 as an emergency always in your hiking pack knife, which would you choose and why?
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The Fallkniven F1.
For all the reasons you gave.
And, if you get it with the Zytel sheath, you'll find that it's not "bulky" at all.

If you look around, you can find it for about $100.00, which I think is a great value.


I would also add a SAK of some kind into the hiking pack along with the F1.
 
This is exactly what I mean. If I have a SAK, and a folding Griptilian, isn't that enough? Do I really need a fixed blade?


-Freq
 
freq18hz said:
Do I really need a fixed blade?


-Freq
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No.

However I do carry several plus a small hatchet.I am a knifenut after all ;).

(and I ordered an F1 for myself today,:D )

And a fixed blade will make some tasks easier.
 
The only thing that sucks, is a fixed blade is a concealed weapon unless displayed outside my hiking pack. I don't really like to draw that kind of attention when hiking/backpacking.

-Freq
 
freq18hz said:
I don't really like to draw that kind of attention when hiking/backpacking.

-Freq
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I know what you mean. I carry concealed, it's legal in my state.

One in my pocket (a little larger than the Izula),one on my belt (same size as the RC-3 and F1), and a Mora in my pack.Plus my SAK and a 10" Wetterlings hatchet.

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I know its overkill, but I can't help myself.:o
 
yeah hah, that just isn't feasible for me.

Id really itching for security of a fixed blade. But honestly, I bet my swiss army and my griptilians can do the job just fine. In fact, its a job that theoretically will never even have to be done, so it seems silly to have a fixed blade knife. The izula would work, but its too big for the cutting surface, and everything else is too heavy and unrealistic to always have with. *sigh* Stupid California laws.

-Freq
 
But what about the Fallkniven, and the RC-3/4

I don't want to draw any attention. I prefer to keep my stuff out of sight.

Also the griptilian has a much longer blade, and can be in my pack or pocket.

I should also say, California is lame. If someone wants to stab you, having a concealed knife or not makes zero difference.



Really wish someone had some video evidence proving how much stronger someting like the RC-3 or Izula is than a folding griptilian. People seem to talk about how strong the axis lock is, but no one has tested it.


-Freq
 
freq18hz said:
CONS:

Fallkniven F1- Expensive, bulky, heavy, ESEE has a better warranty. VG10 is hard to field sharpen. Blade can supposedly chip easier than other steels. Possibility that it is so large, it will be left out of my pack/be too bulky or heavy on the trail.
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Huh? :confused: Too bulky? Have you ever seen/handled a F1? I wouldn't call it too bulky. I have a Falkniven S1 in my pack when I go walkabout. And I never had the VG10 "chip" on me... Some people think the handle is a bit small, but that's about the only complaint I hear about the F1.

I have no experience with the other knives mentionned, but if you want a light-weight knife in your pack for emergency use, than maybe the Izula is the best choice?

Anyway, my usual advice would be: buy 'em all, sort 'em out later! Hands-on experience is the best to choose what works best for you.

Kind regards,

Jos
 
You could try the F1 with the full flap leather sheath.(The one I ordered today from Knives Ship Free).

People these days think nothing of pouches,cases,etc.. on other peoples belts. The sheath is visable,per law, but at first glance it doesn;t scream"big scary knife".

And as I said, one of my customs in my photo is the same size as an F1. I do not find it bulky or heavy. It is easy to carry.
 
you have to remember to carry it though. I want something that is always there, never needed except in dire straits. I never need to chop or baton wood under normal hiking/backpacking circumstances.
 
I just got the Gold Class Grip with m4. I'll bet that thing could hold up very well in a camping/hiking environment. But, a folder will never be a fixed blade. I don't know much about the F1, but I'd say get the R-4 and grip.
 
Well I've beat the living snot out of my F1 and it has been an absolute trooper.

Its chopped, cut, gutted, sliced, and hacked just about everything.

It sits on my ruck and I sadly dont take very good care of it but it has no rust and no chips.

I sharpen it on a benchstone and strop it on the back of my belt and its still sharp as hell.

If youre really and I mean really gonna use your knife the F1 is a great tool.
 
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