Fantasy Spyderco Release

I could get behind those Mr. Freeze in an updated steel - are they liner locks? I like liners better than backlocks
 
Three ideas at the moment:

Idea the first:

Design-wise, I think Spyderco almost nailed it with the Tenacious and Resilience, and they managed to find a manufacturer who hit the tolerances out of the park. Because I can make any steel do what I want it to, I am more than satisfied with 8Cr13MOV, but I would gladly upgrade to something Golden made with American steel if only Spyderco would release something like the Resilience that was more function oriented, than gimmick, frankly.

A lot of the designs they make are interesting, and even appealing, but I haven't seen any that can beat the aforementioned models in the straightforward no nonsense department. I feel that finger choils on folders are only necessary when the handle design contrivedly forces your hand further back from the cutting edge, and this is a feature mercifully absent from the Tenacious design family, allowing the handle to be more neutral and useful.

I have "neutralized" nearly every other Spyderco I have owned, always with a focus on allowing a full grip on the handle, and bringing the hand as far forward as comfortably possible, which in every case made the knife more intuitive and enjoyable for me to cut with, not to mention appeal more to my aesthetic preferences.

I don't know if enough people feel the way I do about that, but I would love to see Spyderco would make more models that reflect that design language, and make them in house so that I could say that my favorite production folding knife is made in America.

Secundo:

I would like to see Spyderco take the time to implement better chamfering on their handles, and avoid their thumb ramps having sharp points such as on the Tenacious and Resilience family. Yes I said they almost nailed those, and one of the biggest problems I have with the design from the factory is that uncomfortable thumb ramp that you cannot put any pressure on with your thumb without discomfort or even pain, depending on how hard you are using the knife. Anywhere the hand is supposed to go on a knife profile needs a radius or chamfer, in my opinion, and I would love to see Spyderco's design language evolve to reflect that with greater consistency.


Now we be trippin':

Spyderco is missing a karambit with the compression lock. The karahawk is fine, but with a back lock it will never be the best tactical EDC folder that it can be, which is what I think a lot of people want from a karambit blade shape. To make it the best it can be, it needs a snappy compression lock that flicks open without effort, and as much of a negative blade angle as you can design into a folder.

Bonus number 4: Detent ramps. Easy to add yourself, so whatevs
 
David Mary said:
Three ideas at the moment:

Idea the first:

Design-wise, I think Spyderco almost nailed it with the Tenacious and Resilience, and they managed to find a manufacturer who hit the tolerances out of the park. Because I can make any steel do what I want it to, I am more than satisfied with 8Cr13MOV, but I would gladly upgrade to something Golden made with American steel if only Spyderco would release something like the Resilience that was more function oriented, than gimmick, frankly.

A lot of the designs they make are interesting, and even appealing, but I haven't seen any that can beat the aforementioned models in the straightforward no nonsense department. I feel that finger choils on folders are only necessary when the handle design contrivedly forces your hand further back from the cutting edge, and this is a feature mercifully absent from the Tenacious design family, allowing the handle to be more neutral and useful.

I have "neutralized" nearly every other Spyderco I have owned, always with a focus on allowing a full grip on the handle, and bringing the hand as far forward as comfortably possible, which in every case made the knife more intuitive and enjoyable for me to cut with, not to mention appeal more to my aesthetic preferences.

I don't know if enough people feel the way I do about that, but I would love to see Spyderco would make more models that reflect that design language, and make them in house so that I could say that my favorite production folding knife is made in America.

Secundo:

I would like to see Spyderco take the time to implement better chamfering on their handles, and avoid their thumb ramps having sharp points such as on the Tenacious and Resilience family. Yes I said they almost nailed those, and one of the biggest problems I have with the design from the factory is that uncomfortable thumb ramp that you can put any pressure on with your thumb without discomfort or even pain, depending on how hard you are using the knife. Anywhere the hand is supposed to go on a knife profile needs a radius or chamfer, in my opinion, and I would love to see Spyderco's design language evolve to reflect that with greater consistency.


Now we be trippin':

Spyderco is missing a karambit with the compression lock. The karahawk is fine, but with a back lock it will never be the best tactical EDC folder that it can be, which is what I think a lot of people want from a karambit blade shape. To make it the best it can be, it needs a snappy compression lock that flicks open without effort, and as much of a negative blade angle as you can design into a folder.

Bonus number 4: Detent ramps. Easy to add yourself, so whatevs
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Very well spoken. I too agree with you on point one especially. Which is why I've found myself favoring my endela, which gets my fingers close to the cutting edge with no guesswork. I've found when I carry my paramilitary 2 I constantly am not sure where to put my hand. A normal full grip is so far back from the blade, but going forward to the choil seems awkward. It also gives up a decent amount of usable cutting edge. I would like 1 place for my hand, as far forward as possible.

I am excited to see what spyderco comes out with in the future, as this discussion seems to be on their radar with the release of the bodacious being a choilless shaman. The thing that attracted me to spyderco is their willingness to be bold, try crazy high end steels, and push the heat treats. But I do wish for a bit more choilless handle designs/better blade to handle ratios. I don't carry my benchmade much anymore but everytime I do I'm amazed how that much blade fits in that little handle.
 
Since we are in Fantasy land and above talk is handle to blade ratio.. The Kapara snapped to mind and one of my favorite turn outs to a mod.
Smaller then a PM2 and Military.
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With more blade then a PM2 and not much less then the military.
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Then I get to my personal favorite.. Mini Kapara!!! Like a dream!
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Less handle length and more cutting edge, then all 3.
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Hand is Always in the right spot, tons of cutting edge, feel in pocket and hand is top notch, and compression lock!
Where the Kapara feels "thin" in hand, to open, the Mini Kapara takes that all away. With less length you don't have to move it to pull out of pocket and open. It's very intuitive and smooth. Same with going for the compression lock.

After the mini Kapara, Sage 5 with a straight spine mod(like the Para 3 blade shape, is my 2nd favorite.
Mini Smock being right behind it. As the Smock is also a move your hand once pulled out of pocket type of feel, as well.
Maybe I'll dig up pics of those 2, to post as well.

Mini Kapara with a tool steel would be Amazing! Not that 20CV is a issue.
 
A Techno liner-lock with Micarta scales and a titanium back spacer
 
I would love to see a Caribbean in Magnacut. Keep the same great scales but make them black. Unfortunately, I think the awesome Caribbean was passed up by many because of the yellow scales. They are a turn-off. The Caribbean is so much better than the popular PM2, in my opinion. It's such a great design. Long blade and no choil - perfect. The lock is fine. As long as it's not a liner or frame lock. Those locks make no sense to me with so many better options.
 
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