Feedback or Wish list for thing you would like to see from EKI

newknif said:
The Emerson skull clip. The one with the metallic skull protruding. Can't this be made with stainless or something cheaper to make it more affordable for everyone?

Different scales for different models.

Custom standoffs. You want a great idea, to me anyway, create a standoff that is a miniature skull looking out before I have it done.

Full compliment of satin hardware to replace the stock black oxide. Pivots, screws, etc.

Ace of spade thumbdiscs. Skull thumbdiscs

More affordable skull and lion pivots.

I think that should about do it for me until I think of something else.
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Indeed. I second The More Affordable Pivots and Knife Hardware. In all seriousness, that *Really* leaves a bad in my mouth towards EKI. I had no idea that it cost what it does. That was The Main Thing I wanted to do with one of my Emersons. At those prices <shaking my head>....I'll just say I feel as a loyal EKI customer and fan - that it's being used Against me. That would be super to have a nice pivot and a nice clip. I just don't see how I could ever do that.:-(
 
Those accessories are made by a premiere artist and jeweler. We cannot control those prices. They are made of solid Brass, Copper and Sterling Silver. EKI does not make those pieces. Steel Flame is one of the best out there. EKI makes knives and they do what they can in the custom accessory department. The knives come first. Sorry that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. EKI has had a long relationship with Steel Flame and they would rather give the work to a talented, local artist and jeweler in America than have it outsourced from China.
 
EmersonREP said:
Those accessories are made by a premiere artist and jeweler. We cannot control those prices. They are made of solid Brass, Copper and Sterling Silver. EKI does not make those pieces. Steel Flame is one of the best out there. EKI makes knives and they do what they can in the custom accessory department. The knives come first. Sorry that it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. EKI has had a long relationship with Steel Flame and they would rather give the work to a talented, local artist and jeweler in America than have it outsourced from China.
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So I guess I'm relegated to sequins and glitter glue.

EmersonRep, you make it sound as if the only other option is China. There are quite capable machine shops in the U.S. that would love to make a production run of clips or pivots for EKI I'm sure.

I guess it doesn't matter because I could have a mettalic skull bead faced off with a flat, drilled and tapped, and fastened to a clip all on my own on the very cheap. Which I will do as a matter of fact.

I guess the focus should be on just the knives for EKI.
 
newknif said:
So I guess I'm relegated to sequins and glitter glue.

EmersonRep, you make it sound as if the only other option is China. There are quite capable machine shops in the U.S. that would love to make a production run of clips or pivots for EKI I'm sure.

I guess it doesn't matter because I could have a mettalic skull bead faced off with a flat, drilled and tapped, and fastened to a clip all on my own on the very cheap. Which I will do as a matter of fact.

I guess the focus should be on just the knives for EKI.
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To make it affordable (depending on your definition), it would have to be China. Are there machine shops that can do a similar style for less money? Yeah, sure. I know a handfull of upcoming knife makers that started out in the "knife-pimping" game doing custom scales, filework, etching, hardware. Or, as you stated, you are more than welcome to do it on your own. Steel Flame does FANTASTIC work, they have a great reputation and they charge what they charge.

While i'm here: Maybe a secondary blade-shape for the 10. The standard 10 could be the "A" model. Maybe a drop-point, clip point or tanto?
 
Krazy Cash said:
To make it affordable (depending on your definition), it would have to be China. Are there machine shops that can do a similar style for less money? Yeah, sure. I know a handfull of upcoming knife makers that started out in the "knife-pimping" game doing custom scales, filework, etching, hardware. Or, as you stated, you are more than welcome to do it on your own. Steel Flame does FANTASTIC work, they have a great reputation and they charge what they charge.

While i'm here: Maybe a secondary blade-shape for the 10. The standard 10 could be the "A" model.
Maybe a drop-point, clip point or tanto?[/Q]

Sorry to rock someone's boat.
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Anything's possible but everyone seems to think EKI has all the resources to just stop what they're doing and make accessories in house. People seem to forget that EKI is still a small family run business. Everyone out there always has a "better idea "or asking "why doesn't EKI do this, it's so feasible and easy?!" As I understand your contempt and disappointments in the prices for accessories, EKI still has knives to make, orders to fill, apparel to make. ALL IN HOUSE. Not to mention all of the shows and conventions they attend. They offer clips and lanyards already but they're not to your liking apparently. I'm sorry but if we stopped what we were doing and did what you told us all of the time, the company would fail. EKI listens to it's customers but come on people, let's be realistic. The skull beads aren't made to be attached to a clip for heavy use. How long do you think that'll last? newknif, you make it sound like EKI is new to this which is pretty insulting. Have you factored in how much it costs for these "jigs" and what machines are required as well as manual labor? You've also factored in what EKI pays it's employees? The fact that they would have to move people around or hire more employees just to make these "accessories." Also, EKI doesn't want to rely on parts suppliers or machine shops. They have in the past and guess what, there's an error. We now have to wait for another batch of something. This backs up everything and makes the wait time for knives to get done longer affectively costing time and money. EKI prides itself in getting everything made IN HOUSE. This gives you total control over the process. I'm sorry but we can't do it all. Steel Flame is expensive but it's also the real deal. It'll last just as long as the knife it's on and if you've met Derrick or Leonard you'd understand why people love their company.
 
EmersonREP said:
Anything's possible but everyone seems to think EKI has all the resources to just stop what they're doing and make accessories in house. People seem to forget that EKI is still a small family run business. Everyone out there always has a "better idea "or asking "why doesn't EKI do this, it's so feasible and easy?!" As I understand your contempt and disappointments in the prices for accessories, EKI still has knives to make, orders to fill, apparel to make. ALL IN HOUSE. Not to mention all of the shows and conventions they attend. They offer clips and lanyards already but they're not to your liking apparently. I'm sorry but if we stopped what we were doing and did what you told us all of the time, the company would fail. EKI listens to it's customers but come on people, let's be realistic. The skull beads aren't made to be attached to a clip for heavy use. How long do you think that'll last? newknif, you make it sound like EKI is new to this which is pretty insulting. Have you factored in how much it costs for these "jigs" and what machines are required as well as manual labor? You've also factored in what EKI pays it's employees? The fact that they would have to move people around or hire more employees just to make these "accessories." Also, EKI doesn't want to rely on parts suppliers or machine shops. They have in the past and guess what, there's an error. We now have to wait for another batch of something. This backs up everything and makes the wait time for knives to get done longer affectively costing time and money. EKI prides itself in getting everything made IN HOUSE. This gives you total control over the process. I'm sorry but we can't do it all. Steel Flame is expensive but it's also the real deal. It'll last just as long as the knife it's on and if you've met Derrick or Leonard you'd understand why people love their company.
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All of what you say make business sense, people forget that EKI Knives are designed first & foremost to be used, not as display pieces, or safe queens. To be brought out to impress people over a fine Coger & glass of single malt. Than back in the safe they go.

If my impression is wrong, please correct me so I can change my mindset.
 
I read somewhere that when the Japanese blades started to get all embellished, battle was a far way off.
 
Hey, this is a WISH list, right? For things I'd LIKE to see. Yes the stuff EKI sells is to my liking. I love the stuff actually, I SAID I CAN'T AFFORD IT. Not that it is not to my liking. Where'd you get that?

I'll show you my recent receipt from EKI for two satin pocket clips that are etched with a skull and a pirate skull with swords. Over thirty bucks worth of pocket clips there and I LIKE THEM. THEY ARE TO MY LIKING. So are the ones I can't afford. I LIKE THEM TOO. Love them and covet them actually but cannot afford 185 for a pocket clip. I AM HOLDING NO CONTEMPT!

Derrick and Leonard are great guys like you said and I know why people love their company. I NEVER SAID ONE BAD THING ABOUT STEEL FLAME.

I didn't say drop what you're doing and do everything in house. I believe I was talking about not having to outsource to China which you said would be the case. Don't put words in my mouth and then say I'm being insulting.
 
I'll go ahead and throw this out there, although many may call it blasphemous, I'd like to see more of the current models without the wave feature.
 
newknif said:
Hey, this is a WISH list, right? For things I'd LIKE to see. Yes the stuff EKI sells is to my liking. I love the stuff actually, I SAID I CAN'T AFFORD IT. Not that it is not to my liking. Where'd you get that?

I'll show you my recent receipt from EKI for two satin pocket clips that are etched with a skull and a pirate skull with swords. Over thirty bucks worth of pocket clips there and I LIKE THEM. THEY ARE TO MY LIKING. So are the ones I can't afford. I LIKE THEM TOO. Love them and covet them actually but cannot afford 185 for a pocket clip. I AM HOLDING NO CONTEMPT!

Derrick and Leonard are great guys like you said and I know why people love their company. I NEVER SAID ONE BAD THING ABOUT STEEL FLAME.

I didn't say drop what you're doing and do everything in house. I believe I was talking about not having to outsource to China which you said would be the case. Don't put words in my mouth and then say I'm being insulting.
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I'm sorry, I was responding to a post you have since edited or deleted. Where did it go? Hmmmm. I wasn't solely talking about you newknif. There were other comments made in this thread about the prices for the clips. You stated that the math was so easy to manufacture a cheap skull clip, I was responding to that on a business level. Why have you since deleted it?
 
EmersonREP said:
I'm sorry, I was responding to a post you have since edited or deleted. Where did it go? Hmmmm. I wasn't solely talking about you newknif. There were other comments made in this thread about the prices for the clips. You stated that the math was so easy to manufacture a cheap skull clip, I was responding to that on a business level. Why have you since deleted it?
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Although I'll extoll the virtues of the hard use knife at times and love to mention that slogan, the truth is I'm disabled and will never use my knife in that fashion. I have an expanse of woods right out my back door that I'd love to venture out in with the kids and my knife to really use it but it isn't going to happen.

So my knife will be treated like a piece of jewelry. I still love the knife and imagine but all I can do is make it look reaklly cool. It's a hobby and a fascination.

I just can't afford the really cool stuff so I was wishing for a cheaper alternative.

The post you're referring to may have been quoted by someone, I don't know. But I deleted the living hell out of it as my blood pressure went up.

It had nonsesical and unrealistic numbers whereby I was showing how utilizing a local U.S. machine shop was doable. But the parts would fall apart anyway and be no good, right? And not knowing about the real numbers to get this stuff done, I deleted the crap out of it.

Don't worry, if there's something you think I'm being secretive about the post or if you think I deleted it on purpose to hide a fact that I may have made about something or the other, just recall it as best as you remember and I'll agree.
 
It's fine. Like I've said before anything's possible. EKI isn't close minded and there may be a future alternative to the cool skull clips.
 
No boats rocked. Just giving my opinion and listing some alternatives.

I see that this is a Feedback and Wishlist thread, and while not started by an associate from EKI, I like that they can look at some of this customer feedback while in search for new ideas and innovation. Some things are possible, others are not. As stated, EKI is a small family business. While that can be limiting in some aspects, I rather like it. Gives it even more character.

Carry on
 
Did I read if one of those nice pivots was put on an EKI knife that it then shouldn't be used hard? Or the clip too? What - does that stuff fall off?

If it does - I would hope there was/is a 'caveat' to the buyer. On every knife I own that it can be done to....I make a point to install two pocket clips. Reason being is two fold. It feels good in either of my hands, especially the one with nerve damage - more to hold on to. And number two, of course I can clip them in any pocket. I know I more than likely won't do the two clip thing with an EKI knife but it
would be nice to have one of those cool pivots. Do you just turn the pivot itself to adjust it?
 
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